DUmmie FUnnies 05-15-06 (Pied Piper PItt Bets The Farm On Fitzmas)

DUmmie FUnnies ^ | May 15, 2006 | William Rivers Pitt, Skinner, DUmmies, and PJ-Comix

[finnman69]

Classic Drunken Will pitt claiming Joe Wilson is a source for Turthout. The more I think about it, it is very important. If true, Joe Wilson is willing to be loose lipped with any mediocre LW blogger news punk. Just another confirmation for me that JOE WILSON was the one who leaked his wifes identity.

Also, note the ego fully on display.

this must be posted in case it gets scrubbed

Home from the pub Will Pitt lets slip Joe Wilson is Leopold's source......

AnonymousArmy's diary :: ::
The first part is DU owner Skinner's thoughts on Peter Daou's take on Leopold. (link in link)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/...

So Pitt in all his credible glory rips into him...


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/15/33446/1501
WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon May-15-06 03:11 AM
Response to Reply #13
52. Dear Skinner Updated at 1:42 PM

I think Daou pretty much nails it. Jason Leopold and Truthout have stuck their necks waaaaaaay out there on this one. If they end up being wrong, then they will do it spectacularly and publicly. I cannot imagine that they would stick their necks out this far unless they believed that their story was airtight. But damn, right now they are out there all alone on this one. I find it very hard not to be skeptical. They must be sweating bullets over there at Truthout. They put it all out there. F*cking ballsy. If they're right, they will be right spectacularly and publicly.

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When this story pans out, and all the little fish try to swim home, I am going to say "Sorry, you had the chance to stand with an ally, and instead, decided to say 'I find it very hard not to be skeptical.'"

You could have asked. I would have gladly explained the inside sourcing that I cannot reveal publicly. I would have told you. Happily. I would have explained how Joseph Wilson independently verified a half dozen other sources, none of whom are connected. We had a guy **deleted**.

I'd have told you, had you asked, because you are owed that much. But sadly, no. You threw me and Jason and truthout under the bus. Publicly, because you do not have the COURAGE to stand with someone who has stood with you. You couldn't even do it silently.

This was a wheat-from-the-chaff moment, and you failed. You spend a good deal of time talking about standing strong, but you publicly fucked one man who has stood stronger for you more than any other. Name for me please the New York Times and international best-selling book, translated into twelve languages, that thanks you and your site above anything else. First and foremost.

There is one. Only one. Mine. Before my own mother, I thanked you.

Yeah, yeah, we're 'ballsy' if we're right. But you made it 100% clear that you don't think we are. You could have asked. I'd have let you in. But no, you decided to cover your own ass.

You're in the wrong business.

I am disgusted.

You are no better than the cretins who have taken control of your site.

[commonguymd]

Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Mon May-15-06 02:52 PM
Response to Original message
30. No, but there was a person from TruthOut who came here...
...and posted a very strongly-worded message. The exact words were "For those who have been waiting for this, here it is. For those who still doubt, well, I guess this is the big throwdown." This message was intended to whip up excitement about the article and to more widely publicize it. Because of the poster's notoriety many who had already been burned before by news reports of action againt the Bush government felt that this story had been vetted and by someone they trust the judgement of. Well, when the "24 hours" was later clarified to "Monday, it's 24 business hours" and then clarified furter to respresent "24 business hours meaning 3 business days", folks started asking questions.

We've all been on this emotional rollercoaster before and each time it crashes I think it's reasonable to state that all of us who were on the ride vow never to get on it again unless it's the Big One. Anyway, the questions kept on coming and there developed a backlash against them- with some folks perceiving the skeptical as something a a bit more than merely Democrats who didn't want to be emotionally burned agian.

Then it got worse- by Sunday night I was watching threads where expressing (truly) basic questions about whether this story was true or not were met, openly and with a great deal of malice, with charges that those expressing reasonable questions were gutted for being conservatives in disguise. This is a very ugly charge to make at Democratic Underground.

Then after those threads had been locked the original poster who originally whipped up the frenzy in the first place started at least one thread, in what appeared to be an intoxicated state, claiming that has helped root out secret conservative trolls at Democratic Underground and that as gratefulness for such a service DU ought to pay him "cold hard cash". Of course, he didn't appear to be serious. What he did appear to be was very abusive, condescending and personally helping to stoke the fire between the two sides.

At no time did I ever see Mr. Leopold participate in any of this. I do not blame Mr. Leopold for any of the fallout from this behavior. Mr. Leopold merely wrote the article. However, I beleive it's fair to say because of the way this article was promoted by the poster referenced above that he will suffer consequences as a journalist. The original poster implied that this article would make or break TruthOut and Mr. Leopold.

It did neither, at least in my opinion. The way he handled this was make or break for himself and he came up sorely wanting. The poster whipped up a frenzy at DU, personally attacked those critical of the information presented, fed an atmosphere of absolutism and polarization and then, drunkenly, posted that we should all be very thankful for his behavior.

I find this behavior loathsome and certainly beneath the potential for the poster. Mr. Leopold, who may suffer greatly career-wise because of the way this was handled on DU had no direct part in it. This appears to be related entirely to someone who, I feel, has shown that they should sit on the sidelines next time something like this comes to light.

PB


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1194118&mesg_id=1194425

Nice Smackdown of Will Pitt. Compliments of windansea at CU. Is this a Leopold lackey throwing Will under the bus?

[Charles Henrickson]

I just got off the phone with Jason Leopold who clarified something for me that is pretty damned important. . . . In point of fact, those 24 hours are "business hours," i.e. starting on Monday. . . . "Jeez, Jason," I said, "we might want to put that into the essay. Half the planet thought 24 hours was 24 hours. They thought the deal would go down today." . . . To be fair, a dozen eyes looked at that article yesterday before we published it, mine included, and none of us caught that. The word "business" has been inserted into the story after "hours" where it belongs. . . .

So once AGAIN, yet ANOTHER instance in which Will Pitt, the Wild Bull of the Pompous, has to change his story, backpedal, and recant what he has written. It makes me want to sing . . .

SELF-RECANTED EVENING
Tune: "Some Enchanted Evening"

Self-recanted evening,
When you see the flip-flops,
You may see where Pitt stops
Across the DUmmieland.
And somehow you know,
You know even then,
That sometime you'll see him
Recant once again.

Self-aggrandized weaving,
Bloviating windbag,
Going where the wind blows,
Not knowing where to stand.
He'll write to the left--
That's left to go right--
Will's so busy dancing,
He can't sleep at night.

Who can explain Pitt?
Who can tell you why?
Will gives two versions,
Neither one can fly.

Some fantastic FReeping!
Someone may be laughing,
You may hear the laughing
Among the DUFU fans.
And night after night,
When we go to bed,
That sound is our laughter--
Will Pitt's in our thread!

Once we have DUFUed
Will Pitt's swing and miss,
Then he'll discover
He can't recant this!

. . . . . . . . . . . .

[PJ-Comix]

WOW!!! That was the most INCREDIBLE POST I have ever seen Pied Piper Pitt make. Not only was it a big FU to Skinner but Pitt reveals that Joe Wilson was a source for this bogus Karl Rove indictment story. It was quickly deleted from deleted from DUmmieland but not before being copied and pasted on KOS for all posterity:

WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Mon May-15-06 03:11 AM
Response to Reply #13
52. Dear Skinner Updated at 1:42 PM

"I think Daou pretty much nails it. Jason Leopold and Truthout have stuck their necks waaaaaaay out there on this one. If they end up being wrong, then they will do it spectacularly and publicly. I cannot imagine that they would stick their necks out this far unless they believed that their story was airtight. But damn, right now they are out there all alone on this one. I find it very hard not to be skeptical. They must be sweating bullets over there at Truthout. They put it all out there. F*cking ballsy. If they're right, they will be right spectacularly and publicly."

When this story pans out, and all the little fish try to swim home, I am going to say "Sorry, you had the chance to stand with an ally, and instead, decided to say 'I find it very hard not to be skeptical.'"

You could have asked. I would have gladly explained the inside sourcing that I cannot reveal publicly. I would have told you. Happily. I would have explained how Joseph Wilson independently verified a half dozen other sources, none of whom are connected. We had a guy **deleted**.

I'd have told you, had you asked, because you are owed that much. But sadly, no. You threw me and Jason and truthout under the bus. Publicly, because you do not have the COURAGE to stand with someone who has stood with you. You couldn't even do it silently.

This was a wheat-from-the-chaff moment, and you failed. You spend a good deal of time talking about standing strong, but you publicly f*cked one man who has stood stronger for you more than any other. Name for me please the New York Times and international best-selling book, translated into twelve languages, that thanks you and your site above anything else. First and foremost.

There is one. Only one. Mine. Before my own mother, I thanked you.

Yeah, yeah, we're 'ballsy' if we're right. But you made it 100% clear that you don't think we are. You could have asked. I'd have let you in. But no, you decided to cover your own ass.

You're in the wrong business.

I am disgusted.

You are no better than the cretins who have taken control of your site.

UNBELIEVABLE!!! Pitt better watch out or Skinner might retaliate by publicly revealing the identity of "Temporary Sockpuppet."

[jennyjenny]

Hmmm, what does, "we had a guy **deleted**" mean? Or, did this poster or Pitt just delete whatever was there initially?

Like I said before, after reading this, I can't help but feel just a little sorry for WillPitt. Even if for some unimaginable reason this Leopold story would turn out to be spot on, and by that I mean all the dates,etc., have to match up with his reporting, Pitt still has left his poo all over the place.

[AxelPaulsenJr]

Is there an internet soap that one can use on his computer after visting du?

[finnman69]

"we had a guy INSIDE"?

"we had a guy FEEDING US 100% UNCUT GRADE A BS"?

just a guess

[Choose Ye This Day]

What an ugly drunk.

[chesley]

It's called "Free Republic". I always visit FR after visiting DU. Just to make sure my head is screwed on straight.

Of course, you don't have to visit DU first, and often I don't.

[alarm rider]

I just checked the DUmp, rare for me, but I did. They are still giddy, Leopold went on some radio program and the word was that he was certain Rove would get the word within 48 hours.

Who is this guy's source?

[AxelPaulsenJr]

It's called "Free Republic".

LOL, my bad, so far that is twice this week that I have asked a stupid question. And the week is still so young. Sigh.........

[PJ-Comix]

Either Pitt is LYING about having Joe Wilson as a source (not surprising) or he was telling the truth which is AMAZING. Is Joe Wilson that desperate to get at Rove that he is willing to peddle fibs to a two-bit website? Also, is what Wilson is doing (assuming he is a source) illegal?

[txradioguy]

"Who is this guy's source?"

His own imagination maybe?

[Kaslin]

I have been contacted by my very reliable sources, who tell me that Karl Rove will be indicted on February 30, 3056

[steve-b]

It was quickly deleted from deleted from DUmmieland but not before being copied and pasted on KOS for all posterity

Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Mon May-15-06 06:04 AM
Response to Reply #54
60. Not fast enough....
Edited on Mon May-15-06 06:14 AM by Jazz2006
...since it's been reproduced in its entirety elsewhere on the internet.
Joe is certainly not going to be very happy with you.
And your slagging off against Skinner is shameful.

FLDem5 (1000+ posts) Mon May-15-06 09:32 AM
Response to Reply #60
72. ?
"already reproduced"? Where?

It's so tempting to post a link to Msg#164 on this thread, but that would out my nom de lousy freeper troll for sure....

[PJ-Comix]

Here's another interesting post from that same KOS thread:

Because it puts Joe Wilson in a potentially compromising situation politically and legally. To me, it looks like Pitt fingered Wilson exclusively as the source for Leopold's articles. I contacted him about this, and he said I could post his answer here since he isn't registered on Kos:

There are a whole crowd of sources here, which is what is maddening about this whole mess. Wilson was in the mix, as he has been, but this information came from elsewhere. I'm not going to go into it any further than that, as I hope you understand. It'll come out in the wash.

[alarm rider]

This makes no sense to me. Why all the push at DU and TO ? If Pitt is so sure, why all the pissiness with those that doubt him and Leopold and TO?

If he knows for sure, then he should be in the cat-bird seat. I know Pitt put the "Q" in Drama Queen, but this seems like overkill unless it has been totally verified. If it has not been totally verified, why the big deal?

[steve-b]

he was certain Rove would get the word within 48 hours

Is that 48 normal hours or 48 Business Hours?

Who is this guy's source?

What he doesn't understand is that voices inside your head don't count as "sources".

[PJ-Comix]

Who is this guy's source?

According to Pitt---Joe Wilson.

[PJ-Comix]

It's about Joe Wilson's. He's already being trashed by the right wing and doesn't need any more discrediting! The right wing is likely to latch onto this in a bad way.

Congrats, Pitt, on ensnaring Joe Wilson into your web of deceit. BTW, whatever happened to the premise of keeping your sources ANONYMOUS?