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L.A. Organizers Denounce Black Minuteman
Wave Newspapers ^ | Apr 27, 2006 | Gene Johnson Jr.,

Posted on 04/27/2006 5:39:48 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch

LEIMERT PARK — A coalition of community activists from diverse backgrounds came together in Leimert Park Wednesday to denounce homeless activist Ted Hayes’ recent alliance with the ultra-conservative Minutemen Project as a means of battling illegal immigration.

During an afternoon news conference at the Lucy Florence Coffeehouse, activist Najee Ali said he believed Hayes is being used as a pawn by what he called a racist faction that never has affiliated itself with the black community until now.

“Ted Hayes and his involvement in the Minuteman group is certainly an issue that we should be concerned about,” Ali said. “We feel that [the Minutemen] will polarize the [black and Latino] communities. It will bring us farther and farther apart instead of [bringing us] together collectively to talk about tolerance, peace and resolution.”

Hayes, who did not attend the news conference, said he approached the Minutemen about eight months ago, in part, because they were in support of helping the homeless. Hayes help organize Dome Village, the homeless encampment west of downtown.

“I’m realizing that illegal immigration is taking away the resources of the homeless,” Hayes said. “The Minutemen are right. They want to help the homeless. I can’t get Jesse [Jackson] or [Rep.] Maxine Waters to work with the homeless. Who’s helping me? White people.”

Others speakers at the Leimert Park news conference faulting Hayes’ alignment with the Minutemen included Randy Jurado Ertll, executive director of El Centro De Accion Social; Gideon Krakov of the Progressive Jewish Alliance, attorney Cynthia McClain-Hill and writer and activist Earl Ofari Hutchinson.

“We [have] enough violence between black and Latinos in schools, jails and in the community,” Ali said. “We’re speaking out against potential violence that may happen based on Ted Hayes.”

Ertll agreed with Ali saying that “we need to unite both communities. I think it’s time that [blacks and Latinos] start talking to each other more and finding common ground and common issues that we can work on together.”

“I think the president and Congress need to find a solution to [illegal immigration] because it will create more divisions in the future,” Ertll said.

It’s a matter of learning to listen and “walk in other people’s shoes,” added Krakov “and not being a part of the problem, but being a part of the solution.”

Hayes, a Republican, his newly formed Crispus Attucks Brigade, and some of his Minutemen allies held a forum Sunday in Leimert Park, drawing more than 100 people. It became an intense war of words between him and another group, the Progressive Alliance, a coalition of blacks and Latinos urging unity.

The argument grew into a physical altercation for which Hayes later apologized.

During the Sunday forum, Hayes announced a plan to hold a protest march in downtown Los Angeles on May 21 and invited gang members to join the border patrol.

Tuesday Hayes said he went to the downtown Mexican Consulate to “clarify” the goals for his new group.

“We support civil rights for illegal immigrants — but in Mexico, in the country that drove [illegal immigrants] out — whatever country that drove you out,” he said. “[Iillegal immigrants are] coming here to get my civil rights, something [blacks] fought for. You just can’t come here and take our civil rights.

“We’re going to champion your cause for civil rights in Mexico. We, as blacks, are going to be your champion,” he said. “You might not understand now, but in time you will.”

Hayes said he wrote the Mexican consulate general a letter about five weeks ago, asking President Vicente Fox to allow a multi-ethnic delegation led by blacks to talk with Fox, Cardinal Roger Mahony and other Mexican civic and social leaders as a means of restoring civil rights back to Mexicans.

Hayes has called illegal immigration the “biggest threat to blacks in America since slavery.”


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; alsharpton; borderlist; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegalisnotarace; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; jessiejackson; mexico; minutemen; naacp; tedhayes
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1 posted on 04/27/2006 5:39:50 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch
I’m realizing that illegal immigration is taking away the resources of the homeless,” Hayes said. “The Minutemen are right. They want to help the homeless. I can’t get Jesse [Jackson] or [Rep.] Maxine Waters to work with the homeless. Who’s helping me? White people.”

Each of us have our moments of clarity.
2 posted on 04/27/2006 5:42:19 PM PDT by stylin19a (I never put my foot in my mouth...I shoot that sucker off long before it gets anywhere near my mouth)
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To: SwinneySwitch
...activist Najee Ali said he believed Hayes is being used as a pawn by what he called a racist faction that never has affiliated itself with the black community until now.

racist, racist, hmmmmm isn't that a word that used to mean something?

3 posted on 04/27/2006 5:45:54 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Isn't Hayes a freeper? Or does he have someone speak on his behalf here? That seems to be tugging at my memory somehow.

With that question asked - it somehow strikes a vaguely hypocritcal note - it's about resources - not legality.


4 posted on 04/27/2006 5:47:12 PM PDT by justche ("Art, like morality, consists of drawing a line somewhere." G. K. Chesterton)
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To: SwinneySwitch

"A coalition of community activists......"

Translation: Poverty Pimps.


5 posted on 04/27/2006 5:49:24 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ((Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
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To: justche; RonDog

"Isn't Hayes a freeper? Or does he have someone speak on his behalf here?"

RonDog might know.


6 posted on 04/27/2006 6:03:53 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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To: SwinneySwitch
coalition of community activists

Always the tolerant ones aren't they!! /sarcasm

7 posted on 04/27/2006 6:13:08 PM PDT by p23185 (Being trashed by the Stone Age Press should be worn as a badge of honor by Repubs and Conservatives)
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To: SwinneySwitch

I saw Ted Hayes on Hannity & Colmes last night. He was great. Very well spoken and he sidestepped Colmes obstructing interruptions better than any guest I've ever seen including Newt Gingrich. He also understands the border problem better than the President. He's far more articulate about it anyway. And right!


8 posted on 04/27/2006 6:26:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
It's always good to keep things in perspective. Just who are these "organizers" and what are they about?

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Posted by JeffHead Jeff links to Mexica.org's 'after protest' pic fest. You can see there what the marchers thought they were marching for.

A poster for Friday’s march. March 31. This poster lists the Latino orgs that are promoting the protests. They are all communist/socialist front orgs.

Here is my analysis of what is going on behind the scenes.

Here is some evidence that 'amnesty' increases illegal entries. These people knew before the demonstrations that the time was ripe.

Smith Act of 1940 This is the U.S. statute that ought to apply to the organized gathering of tens of thousands of foreign nationals calling for the overthrow of our country.

Keep in mind just who organized these protests. Who provided the tens of thousands of T-shirts, the thousands of professionally made signs, the hours and hours of promotion on Spanish language radio and TV stations. It has been noticed that Islamic orgs names and logos appear on some of these signs as well. Remember that NEA teachers and administrators are the ones who have assisted the march organizers by providing bussing for their students, hoisting Mexican flags at school and overlooking the truancy.

Don't forget that the last two Presidential elections were nearly 50/50. Think about how our Congress is looking for a way to appease these foreign nationals through legislation. No election necessary. The outcome of legalizing 11 million illegals and encouraging more to come will be a solid lock for the left forevermore in national elections. We don’t need an ‘immigration’ bill. We need and want a border security and illegal aliens bill. An immigration/guest worker bill can come after that is done.

This is not about workers rights or fair immigration policies. It has to do with international communist/socialist orgs looking to gain the political upperhand in the U.S..

9 posted on 04/27/2006 6:38:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
“I’m realizing that illegal immigration is taking away the resources of the homeless,” Hayes said. “The Minutemen are right. They want to help the homeless. I can’t get Jesse [Jackson] or [Rep.] Maxine Waters to work with the homeless. Who’s helping me? White people.”

That can't be right. Everybody knows that white Anglo-Saxon European descendants are the origin of all the world's ills.

10 posted on 04/27/2006 6:41:10 PM PDT by shezza (God bless our military heroes)
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Sowell also presents persuasive arguments (1 and 2 ) for border control. Black conservatives effectively discredit recent ADL propaganda that tries to associate Minutemen with white supremacists, neo-Nazis and other racists.

Senate’s Upside-Logic Cake

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This immigrant competition has hit black Americans especially hard. A recent New York Times report pointed out, "In 2000, 65 percent of black male high school dropouts in their 20s were jobless — that is, unable to find work, not seeking it or incarcerated. By 2004, the share had grown to 72 percent, compared with 34 percent of white and 19 percent of Hispanic dropouts."


Old civil-rights groups avoid debate on immigration

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Yet, many blacks soft-target illegal immigrants for the crisis and loudly claim that they take jobs from unskilled and marginally skilled blacks. Black fury over immigration has cemented an odd alliance between black anti-immigrant activists and GOP conservatives, fringe anti-illegal immigration groups and racially tinged America-first groups.


11 posted on 04/27/2006 7:45:10 PM PDT by Milhous (Sarcasm - the last refuge of an empty mind.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Don't worry the president will be along to cal him a racist, xenophobic, illiterate, white-supremacist, gun-toting, anti-immigrant, knuckle dragging, hirsute, lazy, dumb Nazi any minute now.
12 posted on 04/27/2006 8:28:07 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (Borders. Language. Culture. AAA-0. Free Travis Mcgee.)
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To: Hawk1976

You forgot vigilante.


13 posted on 04/28/2006 7:12:04 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

And we're surprised because...


14 posted on 04/28/2006 10:23:11 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
See also THIS thread:
Minutemen Rally in Leimert Park - No, Really.
["Minuteman Caravan" starts in BLACK neighborhood]

www.LAVoice.org ^ | May 2, 2006 | Mack_Reed
Posted on 05/02/2006 10:03:41 PM PDT by RonDog

Minutemen Rally in Leimert Park - No, Really.


The pace car.
Image via SpiritofAllegiance.com


The immigration debate just got a little weirder:
The Minuteman Project is kicking off a Minuteman Caravan Wednesday morning to drive from Los Angeles to Washington, DC, stopping in Phoenix and Crawford, TX, the president's home town.
So why start in predominantly black Leimert Park?

"Over 40% of black teenagers are unemployed. Overall unemployment in the black community is double that of white Americans," said Minuteman Founder Jim Gilchrist. "They are the most harmed by illegal immigration and it's time we focused our efforts in our inner cities where help is needed most."
Make of this what you will, but to me the racial politicking is ... interesting.
CLICK HERE for the rest of that thread

15 posted on 05/02/2006 10:41:44 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: SwinneySwitch
See also THIS thread:

Minutemen to strike back: Cross-country caravan hopes to foster support
[FReeper on FRONT PAGE!]

San ^ | May 3, 2006 | Jason Newell and Megan Blaney, Staff Writers
Posted on 05/03/2006 4:51:33 AM PDT by RonDog

Minutemen to strike back
Cross-country caravan hopes to foster support

Jason Newell and Megan Blaney, Staff Writers
San Bernardino County Sun

On the heels of Monday's massive immigrant boycott, members of one high-profile group will fire up their RVs, cars and trucks today to build momentum for the other side.


[FReeper] Lyman Stucky, of San Bernardino is driving the pace car
that is leading the Minuteman Project across the country to Washington DC
to ask the leaders to enforce the laws prohibiting illegal immigration.



The Minuteman Project will launch a cross-country caravan tour today in Los Angeles, hoping to stir national support for a crackdown at the border and spotlight the harmful effects of illegal immigration.

From the time the caravan speeds through the Inland Empire to when it rolls into Washington, D.C., on May 12, participants say they hope to have energized voters and enlisted more members to their cause.

The Minuteman Project represents the "people in America who are tired of excuses and stalling and political issues getting in the way of our sealing the borders and enforcing the law," said Lyman Stucky, a San Bernardino man who will be leading the caravan in his 1970 Mercury Cougar. "We are demanding that our hired employees our public servants enforce the law and do what they were sworn to do."

Organizers expect about 100 staff members and supporters to set off from Los Angeles, with some expected to complete the entire trip...

CLICK HERE for the rest of that thread

16 posted on 05/03/2006 5:09:13 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog

Thanks so much for the info. You know, that's a really good point regarding 40% of the black population being unemployed and being the most harmed by illegal immigration. For me, that answers the question of why there is such internal animosity between the two groups.


17 posted on 05/03/2006 7:50:47 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: LAMBERT LATHAM

Did you see this?


18 posted on 05/03/2006 9:13:48 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA

Thanks I missed it


19 posted on 05/03/2006 12:03:57 PM PDT by LAMBERT LATHAM
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To: SwinneySwitch

There is no civil right to break into this country, take our jobs, drive wages down, use our social services and demand we speak a foreign language. Anyone saying there is is spitting on Dr. King's memory and everything he worked for.

Rosa Parks didn't go to some other country and demand a seat on the bus. Medgar Evers didn't leave Mississippi and demand work or social services in some other country. James Farmer and Roy Innis didn't go to some other country and demand things. They all fought their own government right here in their own country.

If aliens want to demand things they can demand them at home. Nobody dragged them here in chains. They broke in. Its just like somebody breaking into your home and demanding you feed them, cloth them, baby sit their kids and speak their language. But hey they're going to cut your grass now and then so the cops and the politicians tell you to just let them stay.

Shame on anybody who says the illegal aliens are fighting for civil rights.


http://www.alamo-coalition.org/OUTREACH.HTM

CALL TO ACTION - ALAMO-COALITION ALERT

The pro-criminal, anti-sovereignty, open borders cabal, is calling the fight to give amnesty to the millions of illegal aliens in this country a civil rights movement and trying to make it the moral equivalent of African-Americans’ struggle. Sen. Ted Kennedy kicked it off, and now others are jumping on the bandwagon.

There is no comparison, either in substance or morally! African-Americans didn’t sneak into this country. We were dragged here in chains.

We didn’t come here and demand the government educate our children in Kiswahili, Cilubà, Lingála, or Kikongo. We didn’t demand free medical care or demand the citizens here celebrate our holidays.

Our civil rights struggle was to get OUR government to treat us equally to every other citizen. We didn’t sneak into another country and demand things. We stood up to our own government and demanded equal treatment.

Shame on Ted Kennedy, and everyone else who tries to tarnish our struggle by trying to make the demands of illegal aliens morally equal to the civil rights movement.



What You Can Do:



Call Sen. Kennedy and tell him he should be ashamed of calling amnesty for illegal aliens a civil rights struggle.

317 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510

202/224-4543



Call Sen. Barack Obama and tell him that as the only African-American in the Senate he should be standing up to Kennedy and demanding Kennedy apologize to African-Americans. Tell him he should be ashamed for not doing it already.

713 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
(202) 224-2854
(202) 228-4260 fax



Toll Free Number to Capital Switchboard (ask the operator for the Senator you want.)

(888) 355-3588

If you can’t call write. Also get 5 friends to call and ask them to get 5 friends to call.



Call your local talk radio show and tell them Kennedy should be ashamed. Tell them there is no civil right to sneak into America or to stay here illegally.



Write a letter to your local newspaper.



We need to get thousands of phone calls to the Senators and hundreds of calls to talk radio and hundreds of letters to newspapers. These people are making a mockery of Dr. King’s work and the work of the other great men and women who gave their blood, efforts and lives for us.

WE CAN’T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT!!


20 posted on 05/03/2006 12:20:24 PM PDT by LAMBERT LATHAM
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