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Did Mary McCarthy Send Joe Wilson To Niger?
Ace of Spades HQ ^ | 4-22-06 | Ace

Posted on 04/22/2006 2:50:00 PM PDT by Renfield

Did Mary McCarthy Send Joe Wilson To Niger? Plame suggested his name; but a higher-up at the CIA actually sent him.

Who?

Now, McCarthy has links to general-turned-Rumsfeld-resignation-demander Anthony Zinni. And Sandy Berger. And, of course, Richard Clarke.

Would you believe she was also on the NSC during the same period, and with the same portfolio (Africa), as... JOE F'N' WILSON?

It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to see the vague outlines of a conspiracy here. We have a lot of like-minded people with the motive, means, and opportunity to subvert the democratically-elected foreign-policy official of this country when he dares to disrespect their superior enlightened liberal ideas.

FloppingAces says the name "Jay Rockefeller" seems to be popping up a lot, too. Wishful thinking, but hey, let's dare to dream.

Mary McCarthy was, at least at one time, the National Intelligence Offier for Warning. "Warning" is a branch of intelligence charged with, well, warning the President of potential threats-- collecting bits of data on a threat from all the different intelligence agencies and evaluating the level of the threat and presenting that information to the President.

Iraq was considered a threat in the early 2000's, of course.

It would seem that Mary McCarthy would have been one of the top CIA decision-makers as to what sort of person might be sent over to, say, Africa to investigate a particular threat-- the threat that Iraq was seeking uranium from Niger.

Now, that's how it seems to me. I don't know the NIO/W's exact responsibilities. But her testimony before the 9/11 commission describes the position as being about evaluating and analyzing threats specifically for consumption by the decision-making client (the President).

So: it seems likely she would be involved in investigating the threat of Iraq's nuclear program.

Did this lawbreaker and Kerry partisan ask Valerie Plame to ask Joe Wilson if he'd like to go on a secret public mission to Niger and come back with a report whitewashing any Iraq-Niger-uranium connection?

She would have known Joe Wilson. She knew his political leanings and that they agreed with her own. She would have been one of the people in the loop-- at the top of the loop, really -- for assessing the Iraq-Niger-uranium threat.

So-- was it Mary McCarthy who sent Wilson to Niger?

I'm sure the MSM will be right on top of that one.

The Forest of Mirrors: SheriJo tips that Captain's Quarters wonders...

if the story on CIA detention centers might not have been a sting operation to unmask leakers at Langley. The possibility comes up because on the same day that the CIA terminated Mary McCarthy for her communications to the press, the New York Times reports that European investigators cannot find any evidence that the detention centers ever existed. Well, that sort of thing is done, at least in Tom Clancy books, and I assume he got that from real spooks. One book mentioned an Operation Canary Trap, where very sensationalistic information was leaked to Congressmen suspected of leaking-- stuff they couldn't resist leaking if it came across their desks.

But... no, I don't think so. I think the EU investigators simply couldn't find the sites. Such prisons exist, we know; we don't know they exist in Europe, necessarily, but I think McCarthy was senior enough to know pure bullshit from real stuff she knew was going on.

I think the prisons are real, the EU is incompetent (or else did us a favor in not investigating as diligently as it might of), and Mary McCarthy is simply the first conspirator to be unmasked.

Update: The NYT found some of the money Mary and Michael McCarthy donated to liberal Democrats, but not nearly all of it. Perhaps they just weren't really looking that hard.

Then again, the donations are all listed one after the other, so it's kind of hard to miss. Unless you want to miss it.

posted by Ace at 12:42 AM


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: cia; cialeakerexposed; conspiracy; mccarthy; niger; plame; rockefeller; wilson

1 posted on 04/22/2006 2:50:07 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: Renfield

Test to see if I can get the embedded link to show....

"...Would you believe she was also on the NSC during the same period, and with the same portfolio (Africa), as... JOE F'N' WILSON?..."


2 posted on 04/22/2006 2:52:17 PM PDT by Renfield (If Gene Tracy was the entertainment at your senior prom, YOU might be a redneck...)
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To: Renfield

Govt people don't believe in conspiracies. At least that is the impression I have gotten from all the ones I have met.


3 posted on 04/22/2006 2:54:52 PM PDT by TBall
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To: TBall

I'm a government people.


4 posted on 04/22/2006 2:57:50 PM PDT by Renfield (If Gene Tracy was the entertainment at your senior prom, YOU might be a redneck...)
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To: Renfield
Cool, I got to run so don't be offended by no further reply.
5 posted on 04/22/2006 3:08:41 PM PDT by TBall (Ivan Eugene Morris)
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To: Renfield
The "secret underground CIA prisons" do not exist. They are a figment of a security man's imagination ~ a security man who watches "24".

Try: http://www.tv.com/24/show/3866/episode_guide.html 20. 7:00 P.M.-8:00 P.M. (edit) Community Score9.1 Superb First aired: 4/16/2002 Production Code: 1AFF19 "Kim lands in jail when the cops don't believe her story. Jack stumbles onto a secret detention center. He arrives just in time to bluff Andre and his men out of freeing a prisoner who is being transferred in. Jack confronts the prisoner and discovers that he knows him from the past. Before Jack can learn any more, Andre and his soldiers make another run on the prison. Writer: Robert Cochran, Howard Gordon "

I think it's quite cute of the CIA guy to take this drama which is very similar to Joe Wilson's real life adventures 15 and 20 years ago, and use it to trap Joe's wives and girlfriends in their intrigues.

President Palmer's wife is undoubtedly modeled directly on one of these gals.

6 posted on 04/22/2006 3:13:19 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: Renfield

An interesting insight.

Makes sense.


7 posted on 04/22/2006 3:33:37 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Renfield

Renfield, great nickname by the way.

What if she also leaked Plame's name as well?


8 posted on 04/22/2006 3:38:02 PM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: usmcobra

I wonder if she was promised a position by Kerry if he got elected?


9 posted on 04/22/2006 4:01:12 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Wristpin

That's a given. Proving it is almost impossible.


10 posted on 04/22/2006 4:03:57 PM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: Renfield
I think the chronology does not work for Mary McCarthy to have been directly involved in sending Joe Wilson to Niger (though she may well have been involved in various discussions behind the scenes). She was not in the CIA in Feb. 2002 when (according to what we have been told) the Niger mission was conceived and executed. She had left the government in the summer of 2001 (resigning from her NSC postion in August 2001) and then held a fellowship at the CSIS for some time afterwards. I haven't seen the specific date at which she took the position in the IG's office of the CIA, but I would be surprised if it were as early as Feb. 2002 though I certainly don't claim to know.

"Prior to joining CSIS in August 2001, Mary O. McCarthy was a senior policy adviser to the CIA's deputy director for science and technology. Until July 2001, she served as special assistant to the president and senior director for intelligence programs on the National Security Council (NSC) Staff, under both Presidents Clinton and Bush. From 1991 until her appointment to the NSC, McCarthy served on the National Intelligence Council...."

p.s. They seem to be purging her info from the CSIS site - leftists in a panic..... I had to go to a cached page on Google to find their bio on her:

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:GJKWda4JHbAJ:www.csis.org/component/option,com_csis_experts/task,view/type,34/id,98/+mary+mccarthy+cia&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5
11 posted on 04/22/2006 5:26:03 PM PDT by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: Enchante

Since she was part the IG office, I wonder if she had any part in the CIA referral to the Justice Department about the Plame kerfluffel?


12 posted on 04/22/2006 8:44:45 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Renfield
That's what we've all been looking for....Who actually sent Joe....Valerie was only a pawn...doing the face work. Who actually said Joe didn't have to put anything in writing or sign a "non-disclusure" statement".

The secret was never about Valerie, the secret was about Joe who was "obviously" undercover on a business trip at the same time.

Little Mary would DEFINITELY have known Valerie's status at the CIA.

13 posted on 04/23/2006 7:14:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Enchante

When this hit FR, I wrote that the web had apparently been scrubbed by the time this came out.


14 posted on 04/23/2006 7:17:27 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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