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Where Would General Motors Be Without the United Automobile Workers Union?
Ludwig von Mises Institute ^ | April 19, 2006 | George Reisman

Posted on 04/20/2006 10:18:01 AM PDT by Marxbites

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Again, the Progressives are shown to be the Marx loving statists they've always been.
1 posted on 04/20/2006 10:18:03 AM PDT by Marxbites
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To: Marxbites
Where would GM be with out the UAW?

THRIVING!

2 posted on 04/20/2006 10:19:47 AM PDT by llevrok (Born a ham but never cured.)
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To: llevrok

took the words right out of my mouth !


3 posted on 04/20/2006 10:20:17 AM PDT by stompk
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To: b4its2late; Recovering_Democrat; Alissa; Pan_Yans Wife; LADY J; mathluv; browardchad; cardinal4; ...

4 posted on 04/20/2006 10:20:35 AM PDT by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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To: Marxbites
"Where Would General Motors Be Without the United Automobile Workers Union?"

One of the largest companies in the world, successful and prospering.

5 posted on 04/20/2006 10:21:14 AM PDT by RasterMaster ("Bin Laden shows others the road to Paradise, but never offers to go along for the ride." GWB)
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To: Marxbites

Without the UAW, GM certainly wouldn't be swirling around the bowl...

6 posted on 04/20/2006 10:21:46 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Marxbites

Uh, not to draw straws, but the GM management AGREED to every damned one of these payouts and arrangements that he claims is killing GM.... While I am no fan of Unions, piss poor management let the unions run roughshod over the company.

Unions are part of the world, but not every company that has had to deal with Unions finds itself in the boat the Airlines and Auto and Steel manufacturers are... Weyerhauser has had to deal with Unions, but instead of just capitulating to them during negotiations held the line, and DEMANDED something from the Union in exchange for better pay or benefits...and never agreed to pay or benefits beyond reasonably sound financial sense.

Weyerhauser of course is not alone in this... GM and the rest of em, just made expedited decisions as management and refused to do what was right, but not easy, when it needed to be done... now it all comes home to roost.


7 posted on 04/20/2006 10:24:30 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: stompk
took the words right out of my mouth !

Thank me very much

8 posted on 04/20/2006 10:24:48 AM PDT by llevrok (Take me to your blender !)
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To: Marxbites
Where Would General Motors Be Without the United Automobile Workers Union?

Without a convenient excuse for its failure, that's where.

9 posted on 04/20/2006 10:26:47 AM PDT by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: HamiltonJay

There's enough blame to go around - but now that it's clear to *everyone* that GM's seriously screwed and concessions need to be made, there's the UAW demanding MORE money/benefits/whatever from GM while providing NOTHING in return but more beer cans welded into body panels, more trash thrown inside seats, and more sloppy workmanship from people who can't be fired.

Management still has much to answer for, but right now, the UAW is the biggest problem by a large margin.


10 posted on 04/20/2006 10:27:37 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Marxbites

Let's see...

They'd make better cars. Cheaper cars. More competitive cars. And they'd have better employees that made very good livings but without the exorbitant payroll expenses the Yoon-Yuns have given them.


11 posted on 04/20/2006 10:44:39 AM PDT by RockinRight (Yes...she's an excellent tour guide!)
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To: Tony Snow; holdonnow

ping


12 posted on 04/20/2006 10:54:19 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Enforcement: A job Americans would do (a typical Foxette))
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To: Marxbites

Able to make a vehicle that doesn't throw a code because the gas gap is on wrong.


13 posted on 04/20/2006 10:55:24 AM PDT by jw777
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To: Marxbites

Able to make a vehicle that doesn't throw a code because the gas gap is on wrong.


14 posted on 04/20/2006 10:55:30 AM PDT by jw777
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To: Born Conservative
I'll comment without reading the article first.

Without the unions, they'd probably be a very strong, viable company, with some debt, a product that would be worth what it sells for alond with the ups and downs as all businesses experience, but at least they wouldn't be on the verge of declaring bankruptcy.

15 posted on 04/20/2006 10:57:23 AM PDT by b4its2late (Liberals are as confused as a hungry baby in a topless bar.)
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To: Spktyr

LOL!


16 posted on 04/20/2006 10:58:24 AM PDT by b4its2late (Liberals are as confused as a hungry baby in a topless bar.)
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To: Marxbites
I don't think GM can be fixed at this point because of the UAW contracts. Their number one priority needs to be cutting back to two brands of cars: a Cadillac luxury division and a General Motors division for everything else - no more Chevrolet, no more Saturn, no more Pontiac. Then they need to drastically cut down the number of models they produce, automate and modernize the assembly lines, steal Japanese plant management techniques, and deliver quality cars for about five years before the public starts to trust their product again. The UAW stands squarely in the way of all of this.

Their only solution is bankruptcy and restarting with all-new union-free plants in a place like Texas.

17 posted on 04/20/2006 11:05:28 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: HamiltonJay

Following World War II all of Europe and Asia was in ruins. For several decades GM (Ford,etc.) and the hourly royalty of the UAW offered our parents increasingly inferior products at increasingly higher prices. One can't feel too sorry for any of them as they had a gig most Americans could only dream of. The American demand for automobiles will not fade as this crowd collects its just reward. Toyota, Honda and others are building great cars here using American labor. Wouldn't recommend legacy labor or management dwelling upon their prior experience as they pursue the new opportunities in the car business.


18 posted on 04/20/2006 11:15:50 AM PDT by dogcaller
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I agree.

Wanna see some real union crap?

Check this:

http://www.nrtw.org/

and

http://www.nlpc.org/view.asp?action=viewArticle&aid=1354


19 posted on 04/20/2006 11:25:01 AM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: Marxbites
Where would GM be with out the UAW?

The same place your blood supply would be after removing a dozen leeches from your body.

20 posted on 04/20/2006 12:21:09 PM PDT by NewLand (Posting against liberalism since the 20th century!)
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