Posted on 02/26/2006 10:38:34 PM PST by stainlessbanner
You Creationists -- always starting trouble.
No, wait, you WODerds -- always starting trouble.
No, wait again, you Flat Taxers -- always starting trouble.
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Answer the question.
5. That this one people did not immediately institute a government for themselves. But instead of it, their delegates in Congress, by authority from their separate state legislatures, without voice or consultation of the people, instituted a mere confederacy.
6. That this confederacy totally departed from the principles of the Declaration of independence, and substituted instead of the constituent power of the people, an assumed sovereignty of each separate state, as the source of all its authority.
7. That as a primitive source of power, this separate state sovereignty,was not only a departure from the principles of the Declaration of Independence, but directly contrary to, and utterly incompatible with them.
8. That the tree was made known by its fruits. That after five years wasted in its preparation, the confederation dragged out a miserable existence of eight years more, and expired like a candle in the socket, having brought the union itself to the verge of dissolution.
9. That the Constitution of the United States was a return to the principles of the Declaration of independence, and the exclusive constituent power of the people. That it was the work of the ONE PEOPLE of the United States; and that those United States, though doubled in numbers, still constitute as a nation, but ONE PEOPLE. -- John Adams
http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/misc/1839-jub.htm
The Constitution created a nation, a nation populated by ONE PEOPLE, by replacing the notion of a Confederacy of sovereign States created by the Articles of Confederation...ONE NATION, ONE PEOPLE, not several sovereign States...ONE PEOPLE, and the dissolution of the Union was not only an abomination to the Founding principles of this nation, but also unconstitutional because the ONE PEOPLE of the UNITED States were the sole source of power, and the dissolution of the Union was a matter for ALL the people of the Union to decide on, not just for the seceding States to act on.
When asked, as President of the United States, "why not let the South go?" his simple, direct, and honest answer revealed one secret of the wise policy of the Washington Cabinet. "Let the South go!" said he, "where, then, shall we get our revenue?"
(Albert Taylor Bledsoe, Is Davis a traitor; or, Was secession a constitutional right previous to the war of 1861?, Baltimore: Innes & Company, 1866, pp. 143-144)
"Thus stands the RIGHT. But the indissoluble link of union between the people of the several states of this confederated nation, is after all, not in the right, but in the heart. If the day should ever come, (may Heaven avert it,) when the affections of the people of these states shall be alienated from each other; when the fraternal spirit shall give away to cold indifference, or collisions of interest shall fester into hatred, the bands of political association will not long hold together parties no longer attracted by the magnetism of conciliated interests and kindly sympathies; and far better will it be for the people of the disunited states, to part in friendship from each other, than to be held together by constraint. Then will be the time for reverting to the precedents which occurred at the formation and adoption of the Constitution, to form again a more perfect union, by dissolving that which could no longer bind, and to leave the separated parts to be reunited by the law of political gravitation to the center."
Consider the following from Senator Webster:
"I am as ready to fight and to fall for the constitutional rights of Virginia as I am for those of Massachusetts. Then followed the election of Abraham Lincoln upon a platform which clearly informed the southern people that the guaranties of the Constitution, which they revered, and the doctrines of State rights and other principles of government, which they cherished, were to be ignored, and that they were to be deprived of the greater part of their property, and all possibility of continued prosperity."The South was of necessity alarmed. They were seized with the fear that the extreme leaders of the Republican party would not stop at any excess, that they would not be satisfied with depriving them of their property, but that, so far as possible, they would place the ignorant slave not only upon equality with, but even above his former master.
"It was but natural that such an impending fate horrified the people, and that measures to avert it were contemplated and discussed."
Source: Southern Historical Society Papers. Vol. XXII. Richmond, Va., January-December. 1894
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How strange that people do not see this.
One might also add that the Roman Empire, although ruled by despots, was still "legally" (but of course only in outer appearance) the Roman Republic.
Looks like Shakespeare was correct about human nature - "What fools these mortals be!"
Gets tiresome.
Pres Bush can't be re-elected for the US...but he can come home and be the President of Texas and any other "Red" state that want's to join......
This is very true. I've had my mind illumined in so many ways since coming to the South. And all I never knew. And was deliberately NOT taught in the West.
The thinking of one family in the south is explored in my novel, Heart & Iron. Cheers for a great day, ya'll.
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When you cite DiLorenzo's scholarship as support for your argument, you put yourself in the position of the demolitions expert who tests the firing circuit after priming the charge.
Dixie Ping (long read)
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