Posted on 02/26/2006 9:12:24 PM PST by ibme
The Official Death of the Theory of Evolution – 2/25/2006
Theorem Name: The Illusion of Evolution DOA Theorem Note: This Theorem looks at the Theory of Evolution from a completely abstract point of view. The formulas and discussion are presented from an Evolutionist point of view. This doesn’t necessarily represent the view of the author. AoU – age of the Universe. (1) AoU = 10 billion = 10,000,000,000 years In the whole age of the Universe, there are only about 1 Trillion opportunities for something to evolve to a different state – eventually Man. (this is very generous)(3) MM - Mega Millions Jackpot Odds In order to believe the Theory of Evolution, you have to believe the odds of going from Rock to Man are only 5,691 times greater than winning the Mega Millions Jackpot.
Note: If something is wrong with the math, please show me. The numbers are not presumed to be absolutely correct. You can play with the numbers. Throw in a few million here and there. No matter what numbers you consider, there aren’t enough reproductive life cycles in the projected age of the Universe to produce the simplest form of life.
Theorem: There are not enough reproductive life cycle generations available in the projected age of the Universe to allow even the most basic form of evolution.
AvRpdCyc - average reproductive life cycle generation (2)(3)
TotalRpdCyc – total reproductive cycles in the age of the Universe.
AvRpdCyc = 100 per year (2)(3)
TotalRpdCyc = AoU * AvRpdCyc = 1,000,000,000,000 = 1 Trillion
MM = 175,711,536
TotalRpdCyc / MM = 1,000,000,000,000/175,711,536 = 5,691
I’m taking into consideration that the Theory of Evolution is based on things moving from simple states to more complex. Some cells reproduce quickly. Mankind would be around 12 years at the best. (3)
One can't pick and choose what to believe out of the Bible. It's either true or not. >>>.
Sure one can, if one is the Vicar of Christ on Earth with the authority to do so as given by Christ Himself. If you're an inerrantist, what part of "Whatsoever you, [Peter,] bind on Earth is bound in heaven" don't you understand?
Peter is dead. Jesus may have given that authority to Peter but I see nowhere where that was ever transferred to someone else and Jesus never told him to pass it on. The pope is the pope of only the Roman Catholic Church. Even other branches of Catholicism don't recognise his authority. His interpretations and pronouncements are not binding on other denominations.
Really? What is "true Christian belief"? What parts of the Bible can you reject and still be a "true Christian". What teachings of Christ can you reject and still be a "true Christian".
The Bible teaches that in six days "the lord God made the heavens and the earth and all that in them is." You don't believe that, do you? But if you look in Exodus you will find that that statement was written by the hand of God on the ten commandments. I suppose you don't believe that God penned the 10 commandments either?
If you reject the Genesis account, if you can't even get past the first verse in the bible, then how can you claim to be a "true" Christian. Without the Bible you have no basis for your claim to being a Christian.
Undoubtedly you reject the flood, the Story of Jonah and the story of Adam and Eve. But Jesus taught that those stories were truth. Are you willing to call Jesus a liar and yet still claim to be a "true" Christian.
It ain't, when discussing the physical sciences, otherwise Pi would = 3.0.
Gee I didn't know the value of pi was part of the physical sciences. BTW as was shown on the other thread, the measurement of the inside circumference of the Bowl in I Kings 7:23 is only off by .36 of an inch over 15 yards. The Bible does not give the value of pi=3. It gives the measurement of the bowl that was placed in the temple. It had an outside diameter of 10 cubits or approximately 180 inches and an inside diameter of about 172 inches.
((172 * 3.14159) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196378
It doesn't get much more accurate than that, especially in bible times.
Do the math.
Intelligent design does not meet the maximum likelihood test.
ID has a fundamental internal contradiction. If life forms were made {poof} by god, how come many species became extinct? If a result of poor design or inability to see the future, then god is not omniscient. ID has no explanation for extinctions other than to say "god did it--no need to ask any more questions".
That's a big "if". Creation of a species does not mean He wanted/intended it to last forever.
Actually, that's not true.
No, but maybe Jesus (unlike creationists) recognized the power of obvious allegory.
But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonah: For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and, behold, a greater than Jonah is here. (Matthew 12:39-41 KJV)
Jesus used the Jonah story as a "sign" of his resurrection. If you call that an "allegory" then you might as well assign all of the miracles of Christ, including his resurrection, into the realm of the allegorical.
And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. (Luke 17:26-30 KJV)
Jesus taught that Noah was a real person. He was not being allegorical about the story of Noah, he was being literal and using that judgment as a warning about a future judgment.
If you believe that Jesus was merely teaching allegories, then his miracles were probably all allegories, and indeed, his presence on the earth was probably allegorical as was his resurrection.
If you believe that Jesus was participating in allegory, then you would have to conclude that he was a liar, since the people he was talking to all accepted those stories as literal fact, and Jesus did not disabuse them of that notion, but instead used those events as portentous of future events. If you believe that Jesus was being allegorical, then you would not be a "true" Christian, but an "allegorical" Christian.
When Jesus was teaching in parables, Scripture makes that very clear.
Whenever Jesus taught in parables, He never used proper names. Any time He used a proper name, He was speaking quite literally. Hence, when He mentioned Noah, Adam, Lazarus, etc. He was talking about an actual event.
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Didn't we just go this all this same crap, about 2200 replies worth, on aNOTHER thread??!!!
Then demonstrate it....
Acts 17:26-2726. From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live.
27. God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us.Romans 5:12-21
12. Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned--
13. for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law.
14. Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
15. But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
16. Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.
17. For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
18. Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.
19. For just as through the disobedience of the one man, the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
20. The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,
21. so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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Acts 17:24-26
24. "The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. Was LUKE wrong about this? |
Exactly. The punishment of the entire human race because a talking snake convinced two people to eat a bad piece of fruit is a very clear example of a parable.
Which "parable" of course is the foundation for the entire Christian Religion. If that story is a parable, then Christianity is a fantasy.
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. But not as the offense, so also is the free gift. For if through the offense of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offenses unto justification. For if by one man's offense death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) Therefore as by the offense of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. (Romans 5:12-19 KJV)
What is it that you DO believe about Jesus?
That mankind is prone to sin and in requirement of salvation is the foundation of the Christian religion. That God, through his love, allowed His only Son to sacrifice Himself to save the human race is the entire point. Whether or not a particular snake talked to a particular woman under a particular tree in a particular garden has nothing to do with this. And given that God obviously pained Himself to make available countless pieces of physical data that point inexorably to a a universe and Earth that are billions of years old and a human race diverged from common ancestry with apes millions of years ago, it is quite readily apparent to anyone who cares to study the facts in this modern day and age that certain stories with the pages of Bible are indeed parables.
Christianity is not a fantasy; creationist bibliolatry is the fantasy here.
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