Posted on 01/27/2006 11:04:17 AM PST by Lindykim
Greek mythology tells the tale of Prometheus, a Titan who envied Zeus his godlike powers. Driven by his covetousness, he stole some of Zeus's power, then was caught and punished by being tied to a rock. The underlying assumption of this myth is that man and God are antagonists. Man covets godlike powers, but since God refuses to share any of his power, man must take it---or steal it.
In ancient pagan civilizations, Promethean men were able to give free reign to the dark impulses that urged them to become as 'gods.' Although they lacked the ability to create life, they exercised complete control over all matters of life and death. They could dictate who was a free-man with rights and who was a lesser being—an animated tool or animated sex toy—with no rights whatsoever. Promethean man was absolute sovereign and lawmaker. His lusts, jealousies, dark impulses---all became law if he so chose them to be.
It was Biblical religion, and more specifically the Genesis account of creation, that overthrew the classic pagan worldview model with its all-powerful State controlled by totalitarian god-like Promethean men. All of this was repugnant to the Biblical model wherein the Genesis account proclaimed God as Sovereign and Lawmaker. It was He who had created all men and no one was to enslave other men or to treat them as 'lesser beings." Neither were His children to be 'subsumed' into nature, for He had given all of His children dominion over the earth, and they could own land and make use of the earth's resources. In America's founding documents, all statements about equality and freedom as inalienable and inherent rights of all human persons have their basis in the Genesis account. Similarly, because our lives are precious to our Creator, we have the right to keep and bear arms in order to protect our lives and those of our loved ones. This view of man and the world was totally alien to the ancient pagan way of doing things.
However, not everyone was pleased with the Biblical model. While all of the former 'lesser beings' were delighted to be free of their oppressors, Promethean men were not happy campers. Thus it was that a group of Enlightenment conspirators, two of whom were Frederick Engel's and Karl Marx, who by temperament was Promethean, devised an ideology based on ancient communal living (communism). Their scheme was to overthrow Western Christian-Judeo civilization and to reconstitute society on the basis of their ideology. What they needed, but lacked, to make their system into a bona-fide worldview was a creation account.
All major civilizations throughout the history of the world began with a creation account which told man where he came from, how he got here, why he is here, and what's wrong with man and the world. The creation account is the authoritative foundation which animates and supports the divine orders (natural laws) that lay down the law for both human and natural order.
Perhaps it was at this point that Screwtape began to choreograph events by steering Marx to Darwin's book. For it was in Darwin's 'Origin of Species' that the conspirators happily discovered the black magic key that would allow them to believe they could steal God's power. After Marx read Darwin's book, he wrote to Engel's and said, "…although it is developed in the crude English style, this is the book which contains the basis in natural history for our view." (Source: "Gods that Fail: Peter Singer and the Darwinian Left," review by Eric Jones).
Marx and Engel's incorporated Darwin's theory into their communist ideology. The synthesized version became 'scientific dialectical materialism." It was in this manner that the two conspirators transformed their ideology into 'absolute scientific truth."
The creation story they gained, and by which they declared the 'death of God,' must have been authored by Screwtape thus for obvious reasons, they preferred to keep it out of the limelight. It essentially states: "In the beginning was non-life bearing, non-intelligence bearing matter which, with neither rhyme nor reason, accidentally self-created by virtue of an accidentally caused quantum fluctuation, which had likewise mysteriously self-created for no purpose nor reason." The moral of this story is: Never make deals with Screwtape---he has a devilish sense of humor.
Trumpeting the death of God, Promethean's calling themselves "Darwinian scientists' immediately set about the business of abolishing mankind. With glee born of darkest envy, they stripped him of his soul, free will and conscience, and then declared that he was but a mechanistic monkey-man. Or in Herr Scientist Frederick Engel's words: "Darwin has given us an approximate description of these ancestors of ours. They were completely covered with hair…had beards…pointed ears and they lived in bands in trees." (www.newyouth.com)
Thus was the world forcefully thrust into Screwtape's "Age of Scientism," wherein Darwinian communists—the animated tools of Screwtape and his hellish minions-- unleashed rivers of human blood on a planetary dimension---all in pursuit of producing scientifically engineered Un-man and a Promethean Utopia.
In observation of the scientifically-induced hellish madness unleashed onto the world, "The Black Book of Communism" offers the following insights and indictments:
"…the roots of Marxist-Leninism are…not to be found in Marx at all, but in a deviant version of Darwinism…Crimes against humanity are the product of an ideology that reduces people…to a…condition, be it ideological, racial, or sociohistorical." (pg. 752)
"…transformation of ideology and politics into absolute 'scientific' truth is the basis of the totalitarianism dimension of Communism. The party answered only to science. Science…justified the terror by requiring that all aspects of social and individual life be transformed." (pg. 739)
"This biological or zoological strain of thinking enables us to understand…why so many crimes of Communism were crimes against humanity and how Marxist-Leninist ideology managed to justify these crimes to its followers." (pg. 751)
On page 4, are these grim statistics:
USSR: 20 million deaths China: 65 million deaths Vietnam: 1 million deaths N. Korea: 2 million deaths E. Europe: 1 million deaths Latin America: 150,000 Africa: 1.7 million deaths
The total approaches 100 million 'animalized' humans shot, gassed, burned, electrocuted, starved, gunned down, beaten to death, impaled, beheaded or otherwise murdered under the authority of 'absolute science.'
The soul and life destroying "biological and zoological strain" of madness is at this very moment poisoning and warping the minds of Americans and being force-fed to our children. Our children are being made to view themselves through Lucifer's "burning eye of envy" in Darwinist textbooks. "You are an animal and share a common heritage with earthworms." (Source: Johnson, "Biology" as quoted in Norris Anderson "Education or Indoctrination? Analysis of Textbooks in Alabama, 1995, pg. 6)
The anti-human totalitarianism and Promethean megalomania comes through loud and clear in Thomas C. Clark's odious assertions in "Crime and Causality: Do Killers Deserve to Die?" Keep in mind that Clark, who doesn't view himself as an ape, is obnoxiously lecturing all of the lesser beings whom he believes to be mechanistic monkeys. What he's saying in his pompous gasbag manner is that since "God is dead" and we are but human apes, it's time we accept our fate to become subsumed (embedded) into nature. Naturally his Darwinian-induced thimble-wittedness is hee-hawed under the authority of absolute science: "Many have resisted, and will continue to resist, the epistemic authority of science, since it requires we abandon those beloved conceptions of freedom, dignity, and moral agency and responsibility in which persons are understood to be causally privileged over the rest of nature…science proposes naturalized…conceptions of freedom, and responsibility which embed persons…fully within the causal network" (www.naturalism.org) If Darwinian scientism was a road atlas, it would ever lead to but one destination…Hell. If it was a multipurpose set of building instructions, they would ever build but one thing…Hell.
Dr. T. N. Tahmision (Atomic Energy Commission USA) pegged Darwinian evolutionists as 'con men." He commented, "Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are great con-men, and the story they are telling may be the greatest hoax ever. In explaining evolution, we do not have one iota of fact." ('The Fresno Bee," Aug. 20, 1959, as quoted by N.J. Mitchell, "Evolution and the Emperor's New Clothes," 1983, title page)
Even after the passage of more than two thousand years, we can see that Prometheus has yet to grow up. Still ruled by Narcissus and the dark passions of envy, covetousness, hatred and vengeance-seeking which she so adroitly keeps aflame, Prometheus remains doomed as a result to serve as Screwtape's 'animated tool."
The "connection" was explained in post #6. Marx was grasping for rationalizations.
The fact remains that evolution is not and could not be the "basis" for Communism, since Communism was conceived and described in detail *before* evolution.
Furthermore, anyone with even the slightest grasp of evolution has no trouble at all grasping that evolution is a far better "basis" for laissez faire *capitalism* than any form of communism. The parallels between evolutionary processes and capitalism are uncanny, actually.
Meanwhile, it's amusing to note that *creationism* is actually a better match for communism, because both involve systems created and managed by a central "planning commission", and both involve the "central planner" being the writer of "the rules" and the arbiter of who deserves to get what, and what is required of them.
Frankly, only an idiot could conclude that evolutionary biology in any way supports communism. I suppose that's why so many creationists swallow such a foolish notion so uncritically, and show no signs whatsoever of having given it even a moment of real thought.
"You deny that ideas evolve?"
I deny that Darwin had anything to do with Marx's ideas.
No, the "desperation" is your frantic attempts to smear evolutinary biology by association, because you can't deal with it on the evidence or by arguing the science.
IOW, do you believe that animals do not evolve?
I'll bite Ol'Dan. I believe God created the universe and all that is in it between 11 and 15 billion years ago. He began the process of life on Earth after he created it about 4 billion years ago. When He began it I don't know. How He began it I don't know. I lean more toward Him creating many things much as they are and so I do not believe in macro evolution. I believe more in Him creating a variability within life to work with micro evolution. That is the variability within the species that allows for variances with breeding to change traits so that (for example) beak lengths of birds can change depending on their environment but the bird will not evolve into a duck because environmental changes would require it.
For instance when you discuss chihuahuas and mastiffs it is important to remember that they developed at the hands of an intelligent designer for our uses rather than as a result of natural selection.
So Ol' Dan, I'm not sure if that means I'm a creationist or an evolutionist or maybe you'd just call me confused.
Which is lower, the chihuahua or the mastiff? The turtle or the chicken?
The ideas arose out of the ecosystem of ideas at the same time. We see examples of similar development in fossil classifaction all the time.
...except the obnoxious, belligerent, arrogant creationists the pro-evolution crowd is responding to...
The creationists fire off such abuse as:
Michael Moore is a pauper compared with that bunch. But I think you are exactly right about the effects of Darwinism, and its true source. No philosophy or religion has ever done as much damage to man's psyche, or his respect for his fellow man, as Darwinism has.Oh, right, that was *you*, you obnoxious snot.
When you guys get abuse, it's because you've earned it.
to give his more prestige
Quite a statement for Marx to make...that evolution was the basis for his theory...only for prestige. I guess you are a Freudian too and can guess his motives rather than believe that his words might come from a sincere compliment to a like-minded thinker?
There are many possible theories concerning the creation of the species that are very plausible...even including Darwin.
Could God have created exactly as outline in Genesis "and" could Dinosaurs have lived millions of years before Adam? The answer in one paradigm is yes.
God is the author of life, but also of all visible and invisible. Time is part of creation (God lives outside of created time...for that matter all that is created). Like throwing a rock into a lake, God could create and time unravel forward and backward as the ripple of the pond. From any perspective there is a real point of creation, but this does not have to be the same as what we see as the beginning of the timeline. To Adam, confined in time, he can only see along the timeline.
Again, only one paradigm that both can exist...but there are many others.
But, by fighting like ants on an anthill over intellectual superiority we miss the real meaning of life.
That's not a newspaper, there, Lindykim. That's a blog. You know how to post here. You don't link some personal web page to another site. That's dishonest. And the site you linked to is just another blog.
I guess I'm pretty sure you wrote this yourself. It's too bad you had to use a subterfuge to get it posted here.
And, yes, I found the Daley site all on my own. It's a site pretending to be a newspaper, when it's just another random blog.
That's not what it said. Try to read for comprehension next time.
If you're not even going to try to hold up your side of the conversation, why do you bother?
Go learn some science before you attempt to critique it. You're just making a fool of yourself, and wasting our time -- we have better things to do than correct your misinformation repeatedly.
The same goes for all the rest of the anti-evolution yammerers. I have yet to find one who actually knew enough about biology to not make elementary screwups in almost every utterance, and yet they presume to "lecture" everyone on what the biologists have "all wrong". It's one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen.
Of course I have evidence. Stephen Gould, bless his soul, might even call my theory a fact. The theory of evolution of ideas is not only a theory it is a fact.
Perfect. Thank you.
Okay. I stand corrected.
No, the article listed destruction which has happened in just this century alone.
Sigh. Show me where in the article they talk about the other worldview's end. ("However, the other worldview's end is destruction.")
Might I suggest that your public disource skills need some "evolution"? I am happy to respond to more highly evolved posts, thank you.
You have some ability to extract hidden clues from a narrative, wheher that narrative is verbal or fossil. Just remeber that both are from a Narrator.
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