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The Debauchery of American Womanhood: Bikini vs. Burka
save the males.ca ^ | September 18, 2002 | Henry Makow

Posted on 01/13/2006 9:53:09 PM PST by KDD

On my wall, I have a picture of a Muslim woman shrouded in a burka.

Beside it is a picture of an American beauty contestant, wearing nothing but a bikini.

One woman is totally hidden from the public; the other is totally exposed. These two extremes say a great deal about the clash of so-called "civilizations."

The role of woman is at the heart of any culture. Apart from stealing Arab oil, the impending war in the Middle East is about stripping Arabs of their religion and culture, exchanging the burka for a bikini.

I am not an expert on the condition of Muslim women and I love feminine beauty too much to advocate the burka here. But I am defending some of the values that the burka represents for me.

For me, the burka represents a woman's consecration to her husband and family. Only they see her.

It affirms the privacy, exclusivity and importance of the domestic sphere.

The Muslim woman's focus is her home, the "nest" where her children are born and reared. She is the "home" maker, the taproot that sustains the spiritual life of the family, nurturing and training her children, providing refuge and support to her husband.

In contrast, the bikinied American beauty queen struts practically naked in front of millions on TV. A feminist, she belongs to herself. In practice, paradoxically, she is public property. She belongs to no one and everyone. She shops her body to the highest bidder. She is auctioning herself all of the time.

In America, the cultural measure of a woman's value is her sex appeal. (As this asset depreciates quickly, she is neurotically obsessed with appearance and plagued by weight problems.)

As an adolescent, her role model is Britney Spears, a singer whose act approximates a strip tease. From Britney, she learns that she will be loved only if she gives sex. Thus, she learns to "hook up" rather than to demand patient courtship and true love. As a result, dozens of males know her before her husband does. She loses her innocence, which is a part of her charm. She becomes hardened and calculating. Unable to love, she is unfit to receive her husband's seed.

The feminine personality is founded on the emotional relationship between mother and baby. It is based on nurturing and self-sacrifice. Masculine nature is founded on the relationship between hunter and prey. It is based on aggression and reason.

Feminism teaches woman that feminine nature has resulted in "oppression" and that she should convert to male behavior instead. The result: a confused and aggressive woman with a large chip on her shoulder, unfit to become a wife or mother.

This, of course, is the goal of the social engineers at the NWO: undermine sexual identity and destroy the family, create social and personal dysfunction, and reduce population. In the "brave new world," women are not supposed to be "nest" makers, or progenitors of the race. They are meant to be neutered autonomous creatures that indulge in sex for physical pleasure, not for love or procreation.

At his press conference on Sunday, Donald Rumsfeld said that Iranian women and youth were restive under the rule of the Mullahs. He implied that the US would soon liberate them. To Britney Spears? To low-rise "see-my-thong" pants? To the mutual masturbation that passes for sexuality in America?

Parenthood is the pinnacle of human development. It is the stage when we finally graduate from self-indulgence and become God's surrogates: creating and nurturing new life. The New World Order does not want us to reach this level of maturity. Pornography is the substitute for marriage. We are to remain stunted: single, sex-starved and self-obsessed.

We are not meant to have a permanent "private" life. We are to remain lonely and isolated, dependent on consumer products for our identity, in a state of perpetual courtship.

This is especially destructive for woman. Her sexual attraction is a function of her fertility. As fertility declines, so does her sex appeal. If a woman devotes her prime years to becoming "independent," she is not likely to find a permanent mate.

Her long-term personal fulfillment and happiness lies in making marriage and family her first priority.

Feminism is another cruel New World Order hoax that has debauched American women and despoiled Western civilization. It has ruined millions of lives and represents a lethal threat to Islam.

I am not advocating the burka but rather some of the values that it represents, specifically a woman's consecration to her future husband and family, and the modesty and dignity this entails.

The burka and the bikini represent two extremes. The answer lies somewhere in the middle.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: burkababe; henrymakow; muslimwomen; skinheadsonfr; women
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To: KDD

"At one time this was a matter of great concern to conservatives."

And still is. As members of a free society, we are responsible to the maintenance of such values. Alas, the hippies and other Marxists created societal traumas that we are still struggling to mend and set aright. It does require effort on the part of all who are concerned with such things.


21 posted on 01/13/2006 10:32:26 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: KDD
The burka is an external manifestation of the muslim male's fear and vicious covetousness:

What is the bikini an external manifestation of?

Inebriation...

22 posted on 01/13/2006 10:37:12 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Army Air Corps
To an anal retentive Muslim society our own brazen American women must seem like harridan devils.

Hell they scare many American men.

It's a shame American women have relinquished so much of their power. There is much to be said for a feminine mystique.

23 posted on 01/13/2006 10:44:29 PM PST by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: All
There's too much wrong with this for me to bother with at this hour.

It's definitely overanalyzing the whole thing, and given the stealing Arab Oil bit, I can't possibly take it that seriously.
24 posted on 01/13/2006 10:51:05 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("There they go again...")
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To: KDD

"It's a shame American women have relinquished so much of their power."

The sexual liberation movement is responsible for it and its handmaiden was our own entertainment industry.


25 posted on 01/13/2006 10:51:12 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: phoenix0468
I have so lost patience with self loathing cultural equivalent leftists and their do as I say lunacy.

These moonbats and their holier than thou sanctimony's about Iraq has worn long and thin.

phttt

26 posted on 01/13/2006 10:52:19 PM PST by A message
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To: Army Air Corps

We can point to many suspects in history as the causes of this loss, but only their common character really matters. It is the fate of a liberal political tradition to progressively consume its own moral substance. By removing more and more of the controverted issues from the public sphere and placing them in the private realm, it conveys the inexorable sense that there is no common moral order. There are only the "values" we choose to apply to ourselves. All that matters is that we are legally right in asserting our rights claims, and the legal order is finally accepted as the only moral order.

The independent moral order has not been abolished, of course. The fact that pornographers pose as (moral) champions of the First Amendment may be the clearest evidence that we still have in our civil society some sense of morality, and within that inchoate germ of self-realization lies the best hope for a moral reawakening. The inescapability of an order of good and evil, which is not ours to command but by which we will eventually be measured, is a steady pressure on our individual consciences, and it is made manifest by the elaborateness of attempts to deny it.

http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9611/opinion/walsh.html


27 posted on 01/13/2006 10:53:49 PM PST by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Hard telling how many muslims died in Mecca's stampede because of people tripping on some burkahs. Of course the stampede wouldn't have even taken place had those poor souls not been stuck in their man-made religious tradition.

My wife dresses modestly, but she certainly doesn't wear one of those tents. She's 48 and still has the terrific figure she had 28 years ago, when we met (gave birth to a couple of big boys,too). She just doesn't show it off, and we both like it that way. The first few years we were married, I noticed my buddies would look at her in ways that I felt inappropriate, but I wasn't about to change her. God got a hold of her heart, and changed her. It's been great all these years.

Added benefit. She doesn't feel a need to comply with fashion. With her, I've got the best of both worlds: good looks AND low maintenence. :-)


28 posted on 01/13/2006 10:55:54 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: Zuriel

I find myself paying special heed to women on campus who actually wear dresses (especially dresses that descend to the knee or lower). One reason is that it is so rare to see young women who, well, dress in a feminine and becoming fashion. Most tend to dress as slobs or trollops with jolly little in between.


29 posted on 01/13/2006 10:59:46 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Exactly. And the "or else" can include sanctioned gang-rape, or acid thrown in the face.


30 posted on 01/13/2006 11:04:30 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: KDD
I am not an expert on

anything.

31 posted on 01/13/2006 11:06:28 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Corporate income tax collections totaled a record $73.5 billion last month-AP 1/12/06)
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To: Army Air Corps

My thoughts exactly.


32 posted on 01/13/2006 11:09:46 PM PST by Smedley
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To: Army Air Corps

**women on campus who actually wear dresses**

My wife went back to college (to get a nursing degree).
This past semester, a 'trollop' came to my wife's defense when a couple of young women said her modest dresses seemed unfashionable. The trollop said, "she dresses like a lady, we dress like whores." My wife said the matter never came up again, in her presence, a least.


33 posted on 01/13/2006 11:11:03 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: Army Air Corps

I think women rebelled against the corset. Don't blame em.

But enough is enough. Thongs and g-strings in public are one toe over the line, imo.

34 posted on 01/13/2006 11:20:55 PM PST by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: KDD

"The burka and the bikini represent two extremes."

Burka = mother to terrorists

Bikini = Freedom (and the risks which go with the rewards)


35 posted on 01/13/2006 11:22:10 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: sporkgoddess
In the meantime, I'm gonna continue to wear my low-cut tank tops, thank you very much!

Photos please.

36 posted on 01/13/2006 11:35:34 PM PST by staytrue (Annoy the Media. Vote Republican.)
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To: Army Air Corps
"The sexual liberation movement is responsible for it and its handmaiden was our own entertainment industry."

Agreed. As it turned out, the sexual liberation movement was the enemy of the original ideals of feminism. The feminists' push for abortion on demand essentially reduced us to the role of pleasure toys for men.

37 posted on 01/13/2006 11:47:01 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist (...or false prophet at the very least.)
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To: KDD
As a Christian, I agree that the sexuality women exude in countries such as ours does not help society or its children.

We used to be more conservative in our dress and it did help promote a wholesomeness between men and women.

Our hypersexual society has helped encourage teen sex, high divorce rates, pornography and other such ills that have skyrocketed since the 1960s.

The answer lies somewhere in between, but it is closer to being clothed than not.

Nudists and swingers are free to disagree with me.
38 posted on 01/13/2006 11:50:08 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: sporkgoddess
I LOVE people who try to claim that the burqa empowers women!

I agree. But then we have people over here who claim that the bikinni empowers women. Lets call it a draw. ;)

39 posted on 01/14/2006 8:02:59 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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"phttt"

Is that the sound of air escaping from their ears because there is nothing in there to hold it in?


40 posted on 01/14/2006 7:08:36 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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