DUmmie FUnnies 12-30-05 (Pied PIper Pitt's Fictional Response To DUmmie FUnnies)

DUmmie FUnnies ^ | December 30, 2005 | William Rives Pitt and PJ-Comix

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

Me and Brendeen are a bit sore at that there go-rilla.

[BloodScarletMinnesota]

Don't forget the blustering of the staggering asshole himself, Will Pitt.
His anecdote was called into question before long, and Pitt descends into this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5705768&mesg_id=5709832
I've checked into it somewhat, but the rest is out there waiting for the world-famous William Rivers Pitt to put-up or shut-up.
As I remember it, one of former Pres. Clinton's forays into foreign policy was the bungled affair in Haiti. In 1994. Some asshat, Raoul Cedras finagled a million or so dollars from American taxpayers on threat of invasion by the Clinton/Les Aspin Dept. of Defense. Clinton/Aspin ponied up, and there was no invasion.
Will Pitt maintains that "Ty" was wounded in action in the liberation of Haiti, in Sept., 1994. Under President Clinton.
As I recall it, some American warships stood off-shore, Clinton's media blustered, and when all was said and done, Clinton retreated from exercising any control what-so-ever.
As casualties are a matter of public record, such records should exist of the illusory "Ty", wounded in battle, storming the beaches of Haiti in 1994.
If I'm ill-informed on the subject, I'd be willing to read some links. But Will Pitt's story stinks.
The public records on the web regarding that specific operation aren't easy to find, unless some fellow FReepers can supply some context/guidance.
The odds are increasing that Pitt is going to have to put-up AND pay-up.
It'd be sweet if PJ can confront the alleged journalist with confirmations and corrections and collections...

[BloodScarletMinnesota]

$10,000.
Unless Pitt has some un-used slush-fund, he'll Never Pay.
Pitt's a "liberal".
'Liberals' Never Pay Their Own Way...\
Pitt is an arch-type of pampered pussy "liberals".
When caught lying, Pitt can't pay. He's a pathetic drunk. Go ahead, challenge him, he'll just say 'he doesn't remember', or somesuch.
" I was fighting Fascism"!, argues Pitt, even as he cheered-on a ghoulish grave-side and gleeful celebration of Mother Sheehan's 'Coming Out'...
Every Moonbat who's Batty counts, and they came out in force...

[PJ-Comix]

I clicked the link you posted but noting comes up.

[darkangel82]

DU deleted it, as usual.

[Charles Henrickson]

PJ, can you believe that?! BOTH Pitt threads referenced in the opening of this thread--BOTH have gone down the Memory Pitt!!!

[darkangel82]

Will Pitt got caught in a lie, and PJ called him out on it. Truth goes down the memory hole again.

[PJ-Comix]

PJ, can you believe that?! BOTH Pitt threads referenced in the opening of this thread--BOTH have gone down the Memory Pitt!!!

HA! Pitt has been BUSTED! Literally but I think possibly also for REAL by Ty whom might have finally gotten around to reading what Pitt wrote about him and BUSTED Pitt with a BODY SLAM.

BTW, I think Pitt had it all tossed down a memory hole because I discovered that even a lot of leftists, including a writer for Capitol Hill Blue, consider Pitt to be a FRAUD. ANY professional writer would KNOW that there is NO WAY someone can direct quote WORD FOR WORD long blocks of conversation, sans tape recorder, as Pitt did.

As an experiment, have a 10 minute conversation with somebody. Without the aid of a tape recorder, there is NO WAY one can regurgitate on the page word for word what was actually said even if you try to do it right away.

Anyway, if anybody out there finds out more on what's up with Pitt and his BS story, let me know.

[PJ-Comix]

Pitt may have had his original story about Ty deleted from DUmmieland but here is the screen capture of the Ty story on Truthout:

	Print This Story  E-mail This Story What do you think? The t r u t h o u t Town Meeting is in progress. Join the debate!     Going Too Far     By William Rivers Pitt     t r u t h o u t | Perspective     Thursday 29 December 2005     The bouncer at my bar is named Ty. A native of New Orleans, he speaks with the slow drawl unique to the region, and he is huge. Not outlandishly huge, not freakishly huge, but definitely one of the larger specimens of human one is likely to meet. He works the door at my joint, as well as at another bar down the street a ways. Ty is smart, funny as all get-out and a marvelous spinner of tales.     Each night Ty works he regales my friends and me with stories of mayhem and bouncer-justice, of the drunken boobs stupid enough to think they can push him around at the other establishment. My bar, one gets the sense, is too peaceful for his tastes; he has never been forced to exercise his talents while working at my joint.     Ty and I have assiduously observed the tenets of that invisible sign which hangs over the door of every drinking establishment in America: "Thou Shalt Not Discuss Religion Or Politics In This Place." The two reasons for this are straightforward: I don't particularly relish the idea of discussing work when I am in my cups; also, Ty is an ardent Bush supporter, so the first reason becomes doubly significant. If I want to get frustrated and annoyed, I can just turn on CNN and listen to the Know-Nothings ply their wares.     A funny thing happened the other night, however - something that changed the whole dynamic of our relationship. I was passing by Ty, and he grabbed me by the arm to pull me aside. He knows what I do for a living, and wanted to discuss politics in defiance of the invisible sign. "What do you think of the Patriot Act?" he asked me.     "I think it's a damned troubling thing," I said after a moment. "There are aspects of it that have been on the books for years because of the War on Drugs. There are aspects of it that are brand new to American law. Overall, I think it is tremendously invasive and not in line with how we have done things in this country. As a Republican," I said with a bit of the needle in my voice, "the issues of personal freedom and governmental interference should bother you."     "I ain't no Republican," he said. "I'm an Independent. I think they're all crooks."     "Fair enough," I said, "but you are a Bush supporter."     "Yep," he drawled. "So what parts of the Patriot Act don't you like?"     "Well," I said, "one scary part of it is Section 215, the thing people call the 'Sneak-and-Peek' provision. Section 215 says law enforcement can enter your house, search your stuff, bug your phone, bug your computer - and they never have to tell you they were there. The FBI could have 215'd their way into my house and I'd never know it. Hell, they could be there right now. All they need to do it is a warrant signed by a judge somewhere."     "That ain't right," he said after a moment's consideration. "But at least they have to talk to a judge."     "Well," I said, "have you heard about all this stuff with the National Security Agency spying on people here in America?"     "Little bit, yeah," he said.     "You know that the NSA can spy on pretty much anyone, tap their phones, do total surveillance?" I asked, and he nodded. "Well, back in 2002, Bush told the NSA to start spying on Americans. Lots of them. But he did this without going through the FISA court."     "FISA court?" he asked.     "FISA stands for the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which was passed in 1978," I said. "After Watergate and all that craziness, they wanted to make sure our intelligence services weren't being used by people in power to spy on Americans. If you want to get the NSA to spy on Americans, you have to get a warrant from what's called the FISA court. They're a few judges who hear arguments for special FISA warrants."     "OK."     "Now here's one of the crazy parts with this Bush-NSA thing," I said. "To get a warrant from this FISA court, you don't need to have probable cause. You don't need to have evidence. The FISA court has handed out more than 19,000 warrants since it was set up, and has only denied four. And they do it quickly, because obviously if you go before the FISA court for a warrant, you're probably pressed for time. It's the easiest court in America to get a warrant from. Bush totally blew past them, said he didn't need warrants from the FISA court, and just had the NSA start spying away on Americans."     Ty's response to this was too profane to be printed here.     "Why the hell'd he do that?" he finally asked.     "Good question," I said. "There are two probable reasons, neither of which are very comfortable. The first reason is that he and Cheney want to expand the power of the Executive Branch. Cheney, specifically, has always felt that the Executive let go of too much power after Watergate and Vietnam, gave too much power to Congress and the press, and these guys have been trying to get it back. So they decided that since we are 'at war,' they were going to do whatever they damned well pleased."     "Seems smart," he said.     "Maybe," I said, "but that's a different debate. Ask yourself this, though. Imagine a Democrat wins the White House in 2008. These Bush guys will have left this Democrat with outrageously broad powers. His people can spy on whom they like, because Bush did it. They don't have to get warrants, because Bush did it. They can lie to the press, because Bush did it. They can bulldoze Congress, because Bush did it. That make you comfortable?"     "Hell no," he said.     "Right," I said. "Too much power is too much power, no matter who is in power. The separation of powers is there for a reason."     "So what's the other reason you think he didn't get the FISA warrants?" he asked.     "That," I said, "is actually the scarier part. Like I said, FISA has given out those 19,000 warrants and has only denied four. It's incredibly easy to get a warrant from them. The only reason they're there at all is to safeguard your privacy and mine, to make sure some crazy maniac in the White House doesn't start spying on Americans, on personal enemies, on you and me. The NSA can do that, so the FISA court is there as a firewall."     "OK," he said.     "So maybe," I said, "Bush didn't go to the FISA court because he knew they wouldn't give him the warrants. Maybe he didn't go to the FISA court because he wanted to spy on enemies like Patrick Fitzgerald, like Joe Wilson, like Cindy Sheehan, like Tom Daschle or Harry Reid, or anyone else who was messing with him. Maybe he didn't go to the FISA court because he knew the surveillance he wanted was illegal, but he was damned well going to do it anyway."     "That ain't right," said Ty, his face reddening.     "Now take this all one step further," I said, "since you asked about the Patriot Act. Think about that Section 215 and the sneak-and-peek stuff. I told you they need to see a judge first to come into your home, to search and bug your stuff. But this whole NSA deal shows that Bush and these guys don't give a hoot in hell for judges, warrants or the process of law. They're going to do what they want to do, warrant or not. We've got a situation now where Bush and his people could not only be ordering the surveillance of Americans, but could also be authorizing home invasions, and all without any kind of warrants and oversight. What does that sound like to you?"     "Fascism," he said without hesitating.     "This is the reason," I said with a smile, "why I don't talk politics at the bar. I have a way of going on and on until the paint peels. But let me ask you one last question."     "Shoot," he said.     "As a Bush supporter," I said, "how far are you willing to go to support the guy? How much individual liberty, how many laws, are you willing to give up to Bush before we lose the country? How far is too far?"     Ty didn't have anything to say at first. "This," he finally muttered, "is too damned far."     At that moment, a crowd of people came into the bar, and Ty had to check their IDs. I went back to my beer.     Drip, drip, drip.     William Rivers Pitt is a New York Times and internationally bestselling author of two books: War on Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You to Know and The Greatest Sedition Is Silence.   -------   Jump to today's TO Features:      Print This Story  E-mail This Story
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[Xenalyte]

Out-freakin-standing!

[Charles Henrickson]

ANY professional writer would KNOW that there is NO WAY someone can direct quote WORD FOR WORD long blocks of conversation, sans tape recorder, as Pitt did.

You know, PJ, that aspect of Pitt's "essay" didn't bother me. While he put the conversation in quotes, I did not regard it necessarily as the ipsissima verba (a little Latin lingo there for you) of the speakers but rather as the reconstructed substance--the "gist," if you will. And remember, the "dialogue" was really more of a monologue--of course, it involved the Loquacious One!--with Pitt speaking in canned talking-point-like paragraphs (which I could believe he would do) and huge slow Ty speaking a few monosyllabic grunts here and there (which Pitt certainly would have us believe about his "friend," the big dumb lunk).

[Xenalyte]

By the way, in case you're uneasy about Pitt coming to kick your ass, rest assured . . . Pedro offers you his protection.

[PJ-Comix]

I just found out that Skinner is redoing the General Discussion section so that is why those links aren't working. Just found the Pitt attack on yours truly via another method in DUmmieland. However, I will be featuring a DUFU tomorrow about Leftists mocking Pitt including that Capitol Hill Leftwing writer.

[NYpeanut]

I am still trying to find out which bar Ty works in.

[Dmitry Vukicevich]

I thought Pitt was supposed to be appearing on a Milk Carton in the near future. I guess he is not as valuable a target as he thought, of course 1/4 of Americans are retarded and will believe anything.

Thanks to South Park for that wonderful observation.