Posted on 12/12/2005 1:56:22 PM PST by pcottraux
"Let me begin by making an observation that is simply laughable when you think about it. Look at the anti-war protesters in America today. Almost all of them are well-fed. Most of them seem to be in perfectly clean health. Some of them are even obese (look at Michael Moore). Yet what is the nature of their protesting? Capitalism is a terrible mass-murdering tool, ripping the poor and impoverished of all they own. They are protesting the very system which they don’t seem to realize has spoiled them. I look at the protesters, and none of them seem to have tasted desperation. Some of them are even in Ivy-League Schools! Where is the impoverished lower-class they claim to be representing?"
"Of course, they could have done some anti-war protesting during the Clinton years, but….what am I saying? No, they couldn’t have."
"After the smoke had mostly cleared in Afghanistan (yes, I know even today it’s not completely clear) we started threatening Iraq, but we ran into problems. We were threatening, but the UN was blocking. The French, in order to protect their crummy oil deals with Saddam, starting blocking us. With the attempts at passing new resolutions, the whole buildup to war lost steam, and we got bogged down in the paperwork and red tape. It’s a shame that the UN didn’t want to enforce any of its own dozen or so resolutions against Iraq…but I’m getting off-topic again."
"I recently saw an interview with a former terrorist (he was even tied to bin Laden) who shattered liberal myths about terrorism: he said while the Islamic extremists use America’s oil companies and military presence as an excuse, the REAL reason they have declared war on us is because of our high Christian population, which they view as a threat that must be destroyed (we are infidels to them)."
"Therefore, I must warn you; don’t believe the anti-war activists when they say they “support the troops but not the mission.” Or when they say they “want to raise benefits for the troops, and that’s REAL support.” It’s a bold-faced lie! They’re real ultimate anti-war goal is to get rid of the military completely! Another one of Marx’s teachings…there should be no military, because the military is an instrument used by the capitalists to keep the poor from revolting. Only a Red Army; an army of the people. Why do you think they are campaigning against military recruitment in schools? They want NO military in their egalitarian utopia!"
I promised to ping both of you.
To any of my FRiends who might be interested...this ping's for you.
CRAP!!!! Yanked again!!!
I am here
Since you ping some people for the Walter Reed counter protests, I thought some of them might be interested in this.
Yeah, I wasn't expecting them to yank it to bloggers...at least not that fast.
I have seen those sinister signs first hand. Signs like "New York is better without the twin towers" and "down with Capitalism" and many similar things to what you described.
Socialism as you pointed out is a dangerous ideal.
I got your vanity by the way. I haven't looked at it in great deal yet, but I'm going to and reply as soon as I can.
Okay cool
Hey, it's the least I owe you for your help with this one.
Thanks :)
Islamic terrorists MUST be fought indeed. We are faced with our very EXTINCTION here: They will kill ANYONE with Judeo-Christian values and anyone else who is not one of them.
Good piece.
As you noted, muslim fascists, at least the leadership, are not by any means "proletariat" and neither is the anti-war movement.
On the other hand, pro-war, pro-Bush, pro-America people tend to be precisely that, the proletariat.
American "prols" tend to be optimistic, they are the people who make things work, and they love their country. They are the ones whose sons and daughters sign up knowing they are headed for Iraq. The anti-war marxists and the politicians who try to piggyback onto them preach a kind of cultural pessimism that doesn't go down well with American prols. So they have to break it into pieces and sell it issue by issue; lots of people have their pet issue they would like solved by the government, and thats how the Dems get by.
But taken as a whole their philosophy is a miserable thing and they are a miserable lot. They feed on disaster; they find themselves hoping for something awful to happen every election cycle so they can leverage it into a campaign issue. Then whatever the other party does, they swear they would have done more, or less, or something else again, but they can never put their shoulder to the wheel because if we all make it through they fear they will have no way to sell themselves.
As I say, what a miserable lot they are.
Check the congressional vote for Iraq I, and you will discover the anti-war movement is a permanent feature of our political scene.
The left is largely very political: Anti-war, supports higher taxes for increased size and scope of government, pro-abortion, anti-death penalty (and anti-law enforcement), anti-military, etc.
It has not changed one little bit since the 60s and Vietnam. Your age deprives you of historical perspective.
They aren't just suddenly popping on the scene all full of stupid. They have been this way all along.
Their superstars include Jimmy Carter, Michael Dukakis, Al Gore John Fonda Kerry, and the current cast featuring Screamin Howie Dean).
Good analysis. Dems, as you say, are not at all what they claim to be. The politicians say they are crusaders helping the poor, and their voters claim the Republicans create poverty, and many of the poor themselves by right into it. It's quite a scam that has been going on for many years.
I was not alive during the Vietnam thing, but let me try and get into post-Vietnam.
Neither was I, here is another point, our generation has been used to wars that only lasted a few weeks, from the Falklands War to the Afghan War - the current war is taking a bit longer, so many of our age group mistakingly think that the war is 'going wrong' because it wasn't over in a few weeks - the message has to be sent out, the war will take as long as it needs to!!
"...the aging hippies from back then are desperately trying to capture the magic and thrill of protesting Vietnam, but the magic is gone."
The "magic" would be present if a draft was instituted. It's that simple.
Since you were not alive during the Vietnam Era, I can tell you that the demonstrations were much larger during that time.
While the present day protestors may disturb you, they do not have the numbers necessary to bring down a government as happened with LBJ and later Nixon.
Also the current leadership - which has shown itself to be steadfast in fighting this war - is head and shoulders above the leadership from the Kennedy Administration through Nixon's. The lefties of the modern era have met their match with Bush/Cheney.
As long as Bush does not seek negotiations instead of unconditional surrender the Islamofacisti don't have a prayer.
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