Posted on 11/11/2005 6:36:45 PM PST by strategofr
Hmmm... 1998, place marker!
A very long read, but good, indeed.
Whoever wrote this is totally full of s#!t.
"A very long read, but good, indeed."
Thanks. I believe I heard Savage quoting your namesake the other night, apparently the original source of the phrase "the enemy within". Am I getting that reference right? Seems like for the moment, you are connected to the most famous quote of the day.
Any other notable thing about Cicero, you care to mention?
Cicero was a good citizen and public moralist. Aristotle was first responsible for naming the four cardinal virtues, but it was Cicero in de Officiis and other works who passed them on down to the middle ages and the Renaissance.
Prudence, justice, temperance, and fortitude.
Alasdair McIntyre, in After Virtue, made the point that one of the things that has gone wrong with the modern world is that we have fallen away from teaching the virtues in our schools and colleges.
In the Confessions, Augustine mentions that it was reading one of Cicero's books while training as a rhetorician that put him back on track in his search for God.
"Prudence, justice, temperance, and fortitude."
All extremely interesting, thanks.
I think it is clear WHY publicly Islam is called a religion of peace and why NO TV or radio hosts (with the exception of Michael Grahm, who was fired), will speak or write openly against islam!
Blackmail, intimidation, whatever you want to call it, it is there.
"The attacks on today's hearing and on me by various Islamic and Arab advocacy groups illustrates the growing danger of allowing militant groups to masquerade uncritically under the banner of self- anointed "civil rights" and "human rights" status. These groups are no more deserving of civil rights status than the Ku Klux Klan's patently transparent efforts to masquerade under civil rights monikers advocating "human rights" for whites.
In particular, the Council on American Islamic Relations and American Muslim Council, as well as others, have sent out emails and internet alerts "warning" their supporters about these hearings this morning. In effect, the message disseminated by these groups was that merely discussing the presence of Islamic radicals on American soil is to be construed as an attack on Islam.
The Threat to Free Speech and Thought: If not confronted, the efforts by radical Islamic groups such as the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) and the American Muslim Council (AMC) to intimidate those who speak out on the threat of militant Islamic fundamentalism poses one of the greatest dangers to the freedoms in American society. In point of fact--elucidated later in this testimony--these groups are actual political wings of radical Islamic fundamentalist organizations.[...]and consistently attacked American writers for exposing the threat of militant Islamic extremism. These groups pose a clear and present danger to American freedoms and society, not to mention moderate Muslims around the globe.[...]
It is intolerable that writers and American citizens on American soil should have to endure the same defamatory campaigns and threats as Salman Rushdie. As a result, few journalists have dared to expose the international terrorist connections of seemingly benign Islamic institutions that hide under demonstrably false veneers of moderation and tolerance. The courageous individuals who have taken on these groups have been subjected to frightening campaigns of intimidation that do not pass unnoticed by their colleagues. The result is that stories describing the true nature of radical Islamic activities in the U.S. and their growing menace to American society are few and far between. Moreover, the menace of radical Islam to secular and moderate Muslims, women, and intellectuals has been ignored almost entirely."
Thanks for the ping, I'm halfway through reading, that allah sure is a killer:
"We believe in the principle of establishing shari'ah (Islamic law) even if this means the death of all human beings."
It's a long article but it's a keeper!
They knew all this in 1998?
Move along...there is nothing to worry about here. This is all just a BIG misunderstanding!
Hey, it's all in a good cause; education!
I'd like to say I'm suprised....I'd really like too.
To bad this is relegated to the Bloggers & Personal getto.
Shameless Plug
Modern Islam — Muslim scholar is moderate champion of democracy
Deseret News. ^ | 11/12/05 | Richard N. Ostling
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1520914/posts
/Shameless Plug
(snip)
He is equally severe in his denunciations of American Muslim leaders for ineptitude, which Khan says has made him a rather isolated figure.
Abou El Fadl says that after Sept. 11, U.S. Muslim leaders should have led a "massive" response and "expressed pure, unmitigated outrage." He also says they run undemocratic organizations and lack courage to denounce the Saudis for promoting "this radical ideology of hate."
Of America's Muslims, a community of somewhere between 2 million and 6 million, he says: "We have the numbers, we have the wealth, but not the power or influence or voice."
Because of his controversial views, Abou El Fadl no longer feels welcome at his local mosque, the Islamic Center of Southern California, and worships elsewhere. The center also stopped running his longtime column in its Minaret magazine.
"We believe in the principle of establishing shari'ah (Islamic law) even if this means the death of all human beings."
This is the goal, only the methods differ.
Knew what? You mean this?
In any discussion of the threat of radical Islamic fundamentalism, it is imperative to point out that militant Islamic extremism is not synonymous with mainstream Islam. Those who engage in extremism today are simply practicing their totalitarian interpretation of a religion. The vast majority of Muslims do not support in any way the politics of the extremists.But...but...but... I thought this was a trustworthy source! Is it not? ;-)
On a lighter note... it took me a couple of readings of "Militant Islamic groupshave actually . . ." to figure out it was a typo and what was meant. At first, I was picturing them passing the communal razor! Guess I need sleep.
Thanks for the ping, Jan!
Found this interesting -
http://www.counterpunch.org/emerson05192003.html
"In a missive submitted to a U.S. Senate subcommittee in February, Emerson stated that a federal lawman and other authorities in 1995 told him 'radical Islamic fundamentalists had been assigned to carry out an assassination of me. An actual hit team had been dispatched...' Emerson claimed the authorities said he could probably 'get permission to enter the Witness Security Program' "After I sent Emerson's document to the Justice Department's Terrorism and Violent Crimes Section, this on-the-record response was made by spokesman John Russell on May 5.
"'You pushed the right button asking about your friend Steve Emerson,' Russell said. 'We've never given any thought to putting him in the witness protection program.' Is there any truth to the allegation of an assassination team? 'No, none at all,' Russell responded."
... and this - http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1443
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