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The new Vatican eyes for gay guys
Cambridge Chronicle ^ | 11/10/2005 | Chuck Colbert

Posted on 11/10/2005 4:11:36 PM PST by thompsonsjkc

The Vatican inspectors have their marching orders.

This past week, my alma mater, the Weston Jesuit School of Theology - which also serves as a seminary for Jesuit priests - was scheduled for its apostolic visitation.

The Vatican's instructions to its delegation are clear. One of the questions that must be answered includes, "Is there evidence of homosexuality in the seminary?"

What constitutes evidence of homosexuality in the new Vatican eyes is anybody's guess.

Perhaps, just as beauty is often in the eye of the beholder, so it might go for homosexuality in the church.

For more than five years, I immersed myself at Weston in theological studies both gay and Catholic.

I wrote a thesis advocating same-sex marriage, calling for both civil recognition and sacramental celebration by the church.

My presence and academic interests could easily be construed as "evidence of homosexuality."

Rome's local calling card comes under the leadership of Pope Benedict XVI, who seems obsessed with homosexuality and gays among the ranks of the clergy.

The new pontiff's unkind words about homosexuality - "objective disorder" and "intrinsic evil" - still sting.

But one thing seems certain: Despite Rome's best efforts to uproot gays, there will always be real live, flesh-and-blood homosexuals within the church, just as we are everywhere.

Increasingly, more of us inside and outside of divinity schools use the words gay and lesbian as an important way to affirm our personhood as a very good gift of God's wonderful creation.

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I'm not sure of the rules for this source, so I'm posting an excerpt.

This guy writes this, then wonders why the Vatican has problems with homosexuality. The Vatican doesn't want the corruptive nature of homosexuality corrupting and influencing the church.

Christianity is not an inclusive religion, it's exclusive to those people who desire to live within the bounds it sets.

I wonder sometimes if Mr. Colbert and people like him honestly think that their sin is ok with God, or if their real intent is to destroy Christianity.

1 posted on 11/10/2005 4:11:39 PM PST by thompsonsjkc
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To: DirtyHarryY2K; little jeremiah

Ping if you so desire.


2 posted on 11/10/2005 4:13:22 PM PST by thompsonsjkc
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To: thompsonsjkc

Thanks for posting. What a freaking moron!!


3 posted on 11/10/2005 4:13:41 PM PST by conservative cat
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To: thompsonsjkc; NYer; Salvation; Petronski; fortunecookie; ELS


Thank God for Pope Benedict XVI.


4 posted on 11/10/2005 4:14:44 PM PST by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: thompsonsjkc
>it's exclusive to those people who desire to live within the bounds it sets

It is exclusive
to those who open their hearts
to Jesus when He

offers up Himself.
But you'd expect those who do
acknowledge they need

a Savior and who
acknowledge that Jesus Saves
would live by His Words . . .

5 posted on 11/10/2005 4:17:22 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: thompsonsjkc

A little about Chuck Colbert... militant, homosexual activist.

Chuck Colbert, a past president of the New England Chapter of the National Lesbian & Gay Journalists Ass'n (and current NLGJA board member) is a columnist with the New York Times Syndicate. His column A Sharper Focus appears regularly in IN Newsweekly. Colbert has also had numerous pieces published in The Boston Globe, San Francisco Chronicle, Harvard Business Review, and National Catholic Reporter.


http://www.mlgba.org/briefs/June00.htm


6 posted on 11/10/2005 4:18:17 PM PST by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: onyx

Amen.


7 posted on 11/10/2005 4:19:06 PM PST by brivette
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To: thompsonsjkc
"Increasingly, more of us inside and outside of divinity schools use the words gay and lesbian as an important way to affirm our personhood as a very good gift of God's wonderful creation."

One that gets expunged from every other species by design, except man.

8 posted on 11/10/2005 4:19:39 PM PST by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: thompsonsjkc
"What constitutes evidence of homosexuality in the new Vatican eyes is anybody's guess. "

That is a completely dishonest question. It avoids the homosexuals who are 'out' and proud of it in the seminary. Does this bozo clain he wouldn't notice them? What about the seminarians who proposition other men? How 'bout them Sherlock?

9 posted on 11/10/2005 4:19:43 PM PST by keithtoo (Vast Right Wing Conspiracy - Founding Member)
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To: onyx
The new pontiff's unkind words about homosexuality - "objective disorder" and "intrinsic evil" - still sting.

Denied truth always hurts eventually.

10 posted on 11/10/2005 4:20:58 PM PST by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: thompsonsjkc

Another thing...

People like to say that Christians are targeting homosexuals, that Christians are on a gay witch hunt. They argue that other sins are ignored by the church.

If adulterers and fornicators started showing up at church and demanding the recognition, acceptance, and celebration of their lifestyle, I'm confident that the church would speak out against their behavior as much as it does against homosexual behavior.

The difference is that that group of sinners, along with alcoholics, drug addicts, porn addicts, pedophiles, pederasts, and a whole host of others, are not actively proclaiming their sins to the world. They have secret sins, and they're more than likely not proud of them.

I suppose it's only a matter of time, though, before we see some of them start claiming that they were born that way.


11 posted on 11/10/2005 4:21:03 PM PST by thompsonsjkc
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I wrote a thesis advocating same-sex marriage, calling for both civil recognition and sacramental celebration by the church.

He asked the church to celebrate sin? I hope they kicked him out.

12 posted on 11/10/2005 4:24:33 PM PST by darkangel82
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Homosexual Agenda Ping.

The new pontiff's unkind words about homosexuality - "objective disorder" and "intrinsic evil" - still sting.

LOL If you think that stings, wait till you see what awaits you. Repent while you still can!

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13 posted on 11/10/2005 4:27:39 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (http://soapboxharry.blogspot.com/)
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To: Petronski


Exactly. I'll say it again, "Thank God for Pope Benedict XVI."


14 posted on 11/10/2005 4:30:50 PM PST by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: thompsonsjkc

I'll get it it in a while - must run out the door in a minute.

That's something I've often wondered myself. I think, though, in the majority of people like him, they are actually so self-deluded that they are "sincere" in thinking that God approves of them. Of course, the have no clue of the real nature of God, or what unconditional love really means.

A true godly person is humble and thinks himself unworthy, even though free of fault. A hypocrite thinks himself better than others, even though steeped in sin.


15 posted on 11/10/2005 4:31:48 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: thompsonsjkc
For more than five years, I immersed myself at Weston in theological studies both gay and Catholic.
What the "F" are gay theological studies? Is that where they celebrate the sacrament of abortion?
16 posted on 11/10/2005 4:31:55 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Crazy. I'm currently overwhelmed by all the weirdness. I need to read some inspirtational stuff for a while instead of all the sicko bad news all the time.

:-(


17 posted on 11/10/2005 4:32:58 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: thompsonsjkc; little jeremiah; DirtyHarryY2K; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well old Chuckie here is an admitted gay who likes to cause problems within the Catholic church:

http://bettnet.dyndns.org/blog/comments.php?id=2911_0_1_0_C

Sit down and be quiet

It’s nice to see nothing has changed while I was gone. A gay man disrupted Mass at a Boston-area parish on Sunday morning. This actually happened in the parish where I grew up, St. John the Evangelist, in Canton, Mass. After the homily, the pastor, Fr. Michael Doyle, showed an eight-minute homily from the Massachusetts Catholic Conference about the gay marriage debate, which the state Constitutional Convention will take up again tomorrow.



One Chuck Colbert, a self-described gay Catholic, couldn’t take it any more, so he stood up and voiced his displeasure. In his own words, he said he “introduced” himself as a gay Catholic and protested the Church’s teachings. While he was being shouted down by several parishioners, Fr. Doyle went to call the cops. You know, for the pastor to come down out of the sanctuary and go to the rectory to call the police says to me that this wasn’t a minor disruption, but a big one that threatened to get out of control.

By the way, want to guess what Colbert does for a living? According to the AP article: “Colbert is a freelance writer who regularly contributes stories published in the National Catholic Reporter, an independent weekly paper that has endorsed same-sex marriage.” Color me surprised! What an ultra-maroon!

The archdiocese tells us that Colbert probably planned the stunt. He’s not a parishioner, and admits that he was alerted to the video beforehand and lamely claims that he’s free to attend any Mass.

A final note: The other parish in Canton, St. Gerard, didn’t get a copy of the video. No surprise there. Fr. McLaughlin and the parish got a fawning multi-part profile in the Boston Globe in 2002 for how it is dealing with the Scandal. Methinks they wouldn’t have shown the video if they even got a copy.




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18 posted on 11/10/2005 4:36:25 PM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM/RATs need to set a timetable for withdrawal in their illegitimate war on Bush. It's a quagmire.)
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To: thompsonsjkc
The new pontiff's unkind words about homosexuality - "objective disorder" and "intrinsic evil" - still sting.

If you think that's bad, you should read scripture, Chuckie.

19 posted on 11/10/2005 4:39:19 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: xcamel
the words gay and lesbian as an important way to affirm our personhood as a very good gift of God's wonderful creation."

God didn't create fecal recreation. The sins of Man did. Big difference.

20 posted on 11/10/2005 4:40:59 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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