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France’s Ramadan Uprising - a Ticking Bomb for Europe (DEBKA Alert)
DEBKAfile Special Report ^ | November 7, 2005, 3:44 PM (GMT+02:00)

Posted on 11/07/2005 11:04:55 AM PST by strategofr

The violent riots spreading across France took several worrying directions Sunday night, Nov. 6, and Monday. The mostly Muslim gangs of youths began surging out of the immigrant suburbs to invade town centers; they fired their first gunshots at policemen; the number of torched cars peaked to 1,400; and disturbing new slogans were hurled, depicting Paris as ”Baghdad-on-the Seine” and their campaign as the start of Europe’s Ramadan Intifada.

A single slogan made a mockery of president Jacques Chirac’s efforts of the last three years to distance France from President George W. Bush’s Iraq war. Furthermore, the French government’s helplessness in quelling the trouble is encouraging other European communities to follow suit - in Denmark, Belgium, Spain and Sweden, for starters.

Chirac, after lying low for 10 days, finally called an emergency security meeting in Paris Sunday, Nov. 6. He then promised arrests, trials and punishment for those who “sow violence or terror” across France. But politics as usual held him back from instituting tough measures or naming those responsible for the violence, let alone deploying the necessary forces. French police are still under orders not to open fire unless fired on first. No names have been released of ringleaders despite several hundred arrests.

Saturday, Nov. 5, as the disorders went into their second week, the French prosecutor-general Yves Bot said he had detected an organized hand and a strategy behind the riots. Witnesses reported vehicles without number-plates distributing petrol bombs. A fuel bomb factory was in fact discovered Sunday in Paris with 150 bottles and gallons of gasoline ready to distribute to the bands of arsonists. Also found there were masks to hide rioters’ faces. In Clichy-sour-Bois, where the accidental electrocution of two teenagers in flight from the police ignited the first protests, residents said: This is just the beginning.

There are plenty of indications that the riots are not simply spontaneous outbursts of frustration by disadvantaged youths of North and black African descent, but centrally organized mayhem, an “intifada” activated by Muslim networking.

The Chirac-de Villepan government, trying to live down interior minister Nicolas Sarkozy’s provocative pledge to deal with what he called “scum,” is not acknowledging this. Because they refuse to recognize the rampage for what it is, they are withholding the forces required to restore order and so letting the danger get out of hand. Police, firemen and paramedics are no match for a fast developing civil war. The army will have to be brought in at some point, preferably sooner rather than later. For a start, marksmen need to be posted to pinpoint the ringleaders and the bottle-bomb wielders targeting cars, schools, shops, warehouses and public buildings.

France’s leaders, like the British and Dutch, are clinging to the hope that sympathetic dialogue with moderate Muslims will calm the street, despite all the evidence that radical, activist Muslims do not heed established Islamic authorities. On Nov. 6, the Union of Islamic Organizations in France, UOIF, issued a fatwa forbidding Muslims to seek “divine grace” by blindly attacking private and public property and urging meditation and calm.

The following night, bands of marauding Muslim youths extended their areas of attack from outlying city districts to urban centers and started shooting at police officers.

The controlling hand, far from being legitimate Muslim authority, is beginning to emerge as the very organization that has for several years been recruiting young fighters in French Muslim ghettos fight al Qaeda’s wars against the West in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Iraq and other sectors.

On February 20, 2004, DEBKA-Net-Weekly and DEBKAfile were first to reveal the extent of al Qaeda’s penetration of West Europe. They turned up French intelligence statistics which estimated that “al Qaeda had recruited in France between 35,000 and 45,000 fighters and was organizing them in military-style units. They meet regularly for training in the use of weapons and explosives, combat tactics and indoctrination and are controlled from local and district command centers under the organization’s national French command.”

“In Germany, Al Qaeda’s numbers are estimated at 25,000 to 30,000 men.”

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Today, French counter-terror sources are willing to admit, albeit on the quiet and not for attribution, that those clandestine terrorist cells may well be at the bottom of the current riots. They note the history of the Palestinian uprising, which kicked off in 1987 with stones and petrol bombs, only to evolve into a suicidal terrorist war by the late nineties. They fear this process may be beginning - not just in France but in the rest of Europe too, that the covert nucleus of trained and indoctrinated Islamic terrorists al Qaeda buried inside Europe is being turned against the continent, starting in France.


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KEYWORDS: france; insurgency; intifada; jihad; parisriots; quagmire; surrender; terrorism; uprising
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To: strategofr

Indeed. It would certainly provide the apt metaphor.


41 posted on 11/07/2005 11:19:35 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Fruitbat

" OH, but that would never happen here..."

There is one huge difference between Europe and the U.S.

We're ARMED!

And the Muslims know it!


42 posted on 11/07/2005 11:19:42 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Abathar

What are we going to do with all the French Boat People?


44 posted on 11/07/2005 11:20:20 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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To: Lee Heggy123

How the Nazi's weren't so bad


45 posted on 11/07/2005 11:20:22 AM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: strategofr
"Chirac, after lying low for 10 days, finally called an emergency security meeting in Paris Sunday, Nov. 6."

1) Slow response to a crisis.
2) Political butt-covering.
3) Experience presiding over a corrupt governmental infrastructure.
4) French surname.

Perfect qualifications! We've got a job for this guy in New Orleans! ;)

46 posted on 11/07/2005 11:20:36 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (Speaking several languages is an asset; keeping your mouth shut in one is priceless.)
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To: Dallas59
Help me see a scenario where this will not involve us (the U.S.). Somehow we always seem to pay for Europe's incompetence with the blood of our competent. As funny as it is to watch France eat humble pie, this is not good.
47 posted on 11/07/2005 11:20:43 AM PST by keats5
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To: Sabramerican
I just hope and pray that no Koran was harmed in the making of this Islamic production of arson, looting, destruction and murder.

What a coincidence. Brussels just reported a film production company was torched by Islamic PG-13ers.

48 posted on 11/07/2005 11:21:03 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ('Deserves' got nothing to do with it.)
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To: Lee Heggy123
ROFLMAO!!!

Breakout sessions: Cheese tasting

Breakout sessions... Too funny! I'm cracking tears here.

49 posted on 11/07/2005 11:21:07 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

"Chief Gates is deeply saddened this donut shop has been firebombed"

50 posted on 11/07/2005 11:22:02 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Sounds like my work. If a problem comes up, call a meeting. And while the meeting is taking place, the problem is being taken care of by the guys who weren't invited. Two weeks later, the boss that called the meeting gets an award. Happens every time.

Ouch! That'll leave a mark. LOL 8-)

51 posted on 11/07/2005 11:22:10 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Fruitbat
OH, but that would never happen here...

Well...saying it did, I don't believe GW would wait 10 days before addressing it, more like 10 HOURS or less to have the NG on the streets!

52 posted on 11/07/2005 11:23:45 AM PST by top 2 toe red
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To: Fruitbat

"You couldn't pay me enough to live within 100-miles of a predominantly muslim area in the States right now."

I agree. This week, however, Islamacists are focusing on a legal offensive inside the U. S. CAIR (not sure if the ACLU has jumped in yet) has launched a major lawsuit against one of the best anti-Islamacists in the U. S. Emerson is his last name. He's been exposing these people like crazy.

We need to mobilize on this one, but I have not yet had time to track down an address where money can be sent.


53 posted on 11/07/2005 11:23:50 AM PST by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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To: keats5
No it's not. If France is unable control this, what's to stop this from becoming civil/religious war across Europe?
54 posted on 11/07/2005 11:24:12 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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To: Dallas59

55 posted on 11/07/2005 11:24:41 AM PST by LikeLight
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The french auto market should do well next year...buy stock now...so far 20,000 cars torched....cloth seats..leather..no get the asbestos seats...the ones that don't burn...
56 posted on 11/07/2005 11:25:05 AM PST by Youngman442002
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To: Fruitbat

Cake


57 posted on 11/07/2005 11:25:09 AM PST by colonialhk (sooprize sooprize sooprize)
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To: F15Eagle
seriously not enjoying France's woes

You're a better person then me. I'm enjoying it tremendously.

I don't want it to end until they behead Chirac.

58 posted on 11/07/2005 11:25:18 AM PST by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: Fruitbat

Hey, it worked for Captain Picard. . .

(evil grin)


59 posted on 11/07/2005 11:25:27 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: Abathar

Amen!


60 posted on 11/07/2005 11:25:49 AM PST by top 2 toe red
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