Posted on 10/26/2005 5:18:24 PM PDT by DCWatson
"Police told to respect traditions," from the Herald Sun, with thanks to Terry:
POLICE are being advised to treat Muslim domestic violence cases differently out of respect for Islamic traditions and habits. Officers are also being urged to work with Muslim leaders, who will try to keep the families together.
Women's groups are concerned the politically correct policing could give comfort to wife bashers and keep their victims in a cycle of violence.
The instructions come in a religious diversity handbook given to Victorian police officers that also recommends special treatment for suspects of Aboriginal, Hindu and Buddhist background...
Police are told: "In incidents such as domestic violence, police need to have an understanding of the traditions, ways of life and habits of Muslims."
They are told it would be appreciated in cases of domestic violence if police consult the local Muslim religious leader who will work against "fragmenting the family unit".
Islamic Women's Welfare Council head Joumanah El Matrah called the guidelines appalling and dangerous.
"The implication is one needs to be more tolerant of violence against Muslim women but they should be entitled to the same protection," Ms El Matrah said.
"Police should not be advising other officers to follow those sorts of protocols.
"It can only lead to harm."
Ms El Matrah said Muslim leaders should be brought into domestic violence investigations only if requested by the abused woman.
some animals are more equal than others
DEFENDANT - We rob travelers and strangle them. That is our custom.BRITISH JUDGE - We hang murderers. That is our custom.
Can you hear me screaming?!!!
Wife beating is just as much a English tradition as it Muslim. Dickens wrote about it matter of factly. The term rule of thumb came into our language because you could beat your wife with a stick as long as the stick was no greater in diameter than your thumb. The difference is the English were not stupid enough to think wife beating could be continued under religious sanction which in their case would have been Christian, so they eventually did the right thing and stopped it. The Muslims really have no allegiance to any country as recent polls in England indicate. They believe they are above secular law. As a Christian, I have always loved my brothers and sisters in Judaism. I could never truly understand why they were so persecuted in Europe. Now perversely, I cannot understand why the Muslims seem to have attained a special level of having their self-proclaimed religion of peace asses kissed all over the Euroweenie confederacy.
Why not just disband the police, close the jail and disband the courts in Victoria and go for broke with Sharia law? [/sarc]
Sheik Gamal Qutub Explains Why Men Who Murder their Adulterous Wives Should Get Reduced Sentences while Women Who Murder their Adulterous Husbands Should Not
Sheik Qutub:If a husband catches his wife committing adultery with another man. After all, he's her husband.
Guest: But there were no four witnesses.
Sheik Qutub:There is a solution to this as well. The husband can take the place of all four witnesses, and swear four times. This is assuming that he's telling the truth. That's one thing.
As for the lack of parity everyone's talking about (between men and women who kill their adulterous spouses) -- I think these claims are unjustified. How come? In order for the husband to be released and his punishment to be reduced from murder to a misdemeanor, the killing must take place on the spot.
For example, a guy enters the room and catches his wife committing adultery, but then leaves for one hour. If he returns and kills her, this is a crime of murder. The killing must take place on the spot, when there is evidence.
This is impossible when a woman catches her husband. Why? Because the person found with her husband might be his second wife, in which case, this would not constitute adultery. She might not know all four of his wives.
Guest: But if he marries a second wife, it's supposed to be with her consent.
Sheik Qutub: With or without her consent. If it is proven that the two were married... The wife cannot be sure of that when she walks in on him. In such a case she would be considered a real murderer.
Host: But if she kills him, this means that she did not know that he was married to another woman. The Egyptian law requires the sheik performing the marriage to notify the first wife.
Sheik Qutub: The question of notification is still unregulated. A man gets married, and the sheik notifies the first wife, but the address is wrong, and she doesn't get the notification.
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