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Private Web Site ^ | 10/17/05 | Hopeful Patriot

Posted on 10/17/2005 2:10:20 PM PDT by HopefulPatriot

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The Constitution can be restored. The Constitution must be restored if we are to recover our lost freedoms and preserve it for our children and grandchildren. All democracies end in hyperinflation or bankruptcy whenever the public learns to vote itself benefits from the treasury. Is there anybody that actually believes the US can escape a similar fate if we don't restore the Constitution.

This is the first of a series of articles that will be published in the days and weeks ahead on FreeRepublic. A small group of Freepers has devised a simple plan that can be easily implemented. If successfully implemented, this plan has a better chance of restoring the Constitution than any plan you have ever seen or are likely to see.

1 posted on 10/17/2005 2:10:23 PM PDT by HopefulPatriot
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To: HopefulPatriot

Whenever the public learns to vote itself benefits from the treasury, as opposed to just the government employees giving themselves bloated salaries, benefits and pensions?


2 posted on 10/17/2005 2:16:40 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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The public has learned that when they vote for politicians who promise and deliver publicly funded benefits, they enjoy a cushier living. Consequences be damned.


3 posted on 10/17/2005 2:20:19 PM PDT by misterrob
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I look forward to reading more of the ideas you espouse. Your preamble, if that is what it is, is provocative and well written.

The only way to reign in govt is from the grassroots, as the leadership is already entrenched and unwilling to change.

4 posted on 10/17/2005 2:23:57 PM PDT by jeremiah (People wake up, the water is getting hot)
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The Constitution can be restored.

The Constitution is not the problem.  It's the Judiciary and the weak-kneed RINO's that are to blame.  Since we are in the majority we have to accept the responsibility of governing and it isn't being done across the board.  The Miers selection is proof of this weakness.

5 posted on 10/17/2005 2:24:18 PM PDT by quantim (Detroit is the New Orleans of the North as an example of a failed welfare state.)
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He was making the point that Socialists and RINOs have weakened the Constitution and replacing them should be our aim.


6 posted on 10/17/2005 2:26:17 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: HopefulPatriot
My Daddy always said if you're gonna dream, dream big!

Seriously, for things to change for the better, every single politician in Washington needs to be fired. Of course this won't happen, the political machine that runs DC will never allow the surfs to regain their lost freedoms. Face it, they're (politicians) are all corrupt. We need to wipe the slate clean.

But I will join in on your quest, please let me know if I can be of any assistance.

7 posted on 10/17/2005 2:28:07 PM PDT by CrawDaddyCA (There is no such thing as a fair fight. Thou shall win at all costs!!)
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It is no secret and not necessarily a bad thing that speech is limited in our Forum

HopefulPatriot

Since Oct 15, 2005

***************

Welcome to Free Republic.

8 posted on 10/17/2005 2:28:52 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Democracy is the rule of fools by fools.

We republicans (NOT party members) are to elect a principled leadership. If they prate of leadership qualities then can 'em, the people are the leaders and not the fools that would be leaders. If they prate of polls then can 'em, we didn't elect them to do what is popular but to follow conservative republican principles. If they prate of spending, taxes or of compassion then can 'em. If they prate of balance or inclusion then can 'em.


9 posted on 10/17/2005 2:40:54 PM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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Socialists and RINOs have weakened the Constitution

Sorry, don't share that view.  Socialists and RINOs have weakened the nation to be sure!  With this perspective it suggests that the Constitution is in disrepair and consequently needs to be 'restored' as in repaired.  Ultimately the voters of our representative republic hold all the stench at the ballot box.  We get the government we deserve.  

Don't blame the Constitution, blame your family, friends, co-workers, and fellow neighbors for this demise.  I do.

But in all fairness, we are likely just splitting hairs and agree totally.

10 posted on 10/17/2005 2:42:57 PM PDT by quantim (Detroit is the New Orleans of the North as an example of a failed welfare state.)
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If you start or have a ping list, please add me to it. Thank you.


11 posted on 10/17/2005 2:43:12 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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Hopeful indeed. I look forward to your future articles as you lay out your plan. Could you add me to your Constitution ping list, if you have one?


12 posted on 10/17/2005 2:51:31 PM PDT by shezza (Bless the folks in the trenches)
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The stated objective of this series is the complete restoration of the Constitution of the United States as written and formally amended rather than as corrupted and circumvented by Congress, the President, and the federal judiciary, especially the Supreme Court.

While I do not agree that Socialists and RINOs have weakened the Constitution itself as written and formally amended (i.e., as actually promulgated), I think that the author of the original piece is pointing to the fact that what is considered "constitutional" or "unconstitutional" by Congress, the President, and the federal judiciary, especially the Supreme Court -- as well as the uninformed public at large, in many cases (and the MSM, always) -- often differs significantly from an "originalist" or "traditionalist" interpretation of the actual provisions of the U.S. Constitution.

Thus, you could say that Socialists and RINOs have weakened (considerably) what our government and our society considers to be constitutional or unconstitutional, and -- in that sense -- the Constitution needs to be "restored".

Nevertheless, I agree that the Constitution is not the problem, and therefore does not need to be "restored" or "repaired". It is the legal, judicial and executive bodies and systems set up by the Constitution that have been perverted from their original intent, and thus, it is they that need to be "restored".
13 posted on 10/17/2005 3:04:14 PM PDT by Thrusher ("...there is no peace without victory.")
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To: Santiago de la Vega; Tatze; Irontank; Constitutionalist Conservative; VRWCmember; Mikey; ...

Ping for the Restoration of the Constitution.


14 posted on 10/17/2005 4:45:00 PM PDT by Reaganghost (Democrats are living proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time.)
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ping


15 posted on 10/17/2005 5:07:53 PM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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[ Sorry, don't share that view. Socialists and RINOs have weakened the nation to be sure! ]

Rinos ARE socialists.. Republican socialists..
The democrats secret weapon->> Republican socialists..

Who will elect Hillary.?. Democrats and Republican Socialists mostly women..

16 posted on 10/17/2005 5:28:05 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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I have been reading a lot about President Reagan lately, including both of Peggy Noonan's books on him. He did compromise, both as governor of my state and as President. It appears an unrealistist history has been written about him in people minds these days.

There is also an unrealistic idea of how President Bush should govern this country, or which he is the leader of ALL citizens, not just pure conservatives. It is a different story when you are actually doing the job, as some of you should well realize.
17 posted on 10/17/2005 5:34:05 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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Who will elect Hillary.?

Largely (no pun) those who are overweight. Hillary won't be elected even if republicans pony up the RINO version of Effin.

You just inspired my new tagline, kudos!

She's unelectable and you ought to to rejoice in her nomination.  There is no reason to fear the carpetbagger.  Fear your neighbor who votes for her in the primary.

18 posted on 10/17/2005 5:57:14 PM PDT by quantim (Hillary won't be elected even if republicans pony up the RINO version of Effin.)
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To: HopefulPatriot

syme alert


19 posted on 10/17/2005 6:08:40 PM PDT by I8NY
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"I have been reading a lot about President Reagan lately...He did compromise, both as governor of my state and as President."

Reagan faced strong Democratic majorities in both Houses with very strong leaders of those houses. He knew he had no chance of riding rough-shod over the Democrats. He had an agenda and he wanted to pass as much as possible of that agenda. I don't know how old you are, but if you were at least 18 in 1980, you should be able to remember Congressional Democrats pronouncing his budget and legislative agenda as being dead on arrival when it was delivered to their respective chambers. Reagan made several nationwide speeches asking the people to contact their legislative representatives regardless of whether they were R's or D's and to tell those legislators that they supported the President and were demanding that his legislative agenda be passed or the legislators would not be receiving any votes from them in their next election. Members of Congress later admitted they had never had such a deluge of mail in support of a President in all their time in office.

As a suggestion, if you want to know and understand President Reagan's thinking, there are a number of sites that host a selection of his speeches. Here is my favorite list of Reagan's Speeches. The left hand frame contains links to some of his best. My favorite is the one called "The Speech".

20 posted on 10/17/2005 6:20:44 PM PDT by Reaganghost (Democrats are living proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time.)
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