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To: misterrob
Socialists and RINOs have weakened the Constitution

Sorry, don't share that view.  Socialists and RINOs have weakened the nation to be sure!  With this perspective it suggests that the Constitution is in disrepair and consequently needs to be 'restored' as in repaired.  Ultimately the voters of our representative republic hold all the stench at the ballot box.  We get the government we deserve.  

Don't blame the Constitution, blame your family, friends, co-workers, and fellow neighbors for this demise.  I do.

But in all fairness, we are likely just splitting hairs and agree totally.

10 posted on 10/17/2005 2:42:57 PM PDT by quantim (Detroit is the New Orleans of the North as an example of a failed welfare state.)
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To: quantim; misterrob
The stated objective of this series is the complete restoration of the Constitution of the United States as written and formally amended rather than as corrupted and circumvented by Congress, the President, and the federal judiciary, especially the Supreme Court.

While I do not agree that Socialists and RINOs have weakened the Constitution itself as written and formally amended (i.e., as actually promulgated), I think that the author of the original piece is pointing to the fact that what is considered "constitutional" or "unconstitutional" by Congress, the President, and the federal judiciary, especially the Supreme Court -- as well as the uninformed public at large, in many cases (and the MSM, always) -- often differs significantly from an "originalist" or "traditionalist" interpretation of the actual provisions of the U.S. Constitution.

Thus, you could say that Socialists and RINOs have weakened (considerably) what our government and our society considers to be constitutional or unconstitutional, and -- in that sense -- the Constitution needs to be "restored".

Nevertheless, I agree that the Constitution is not the problem, and therefore does not need to be "restored" or "repaired". It is the legal, judicial and executive bodies and systems set up by the Constitution that have been perverted from their original intent, and thus, it is they that need to be "restored".
13 posted on 10/17/2005 3:04:14 PM PDT by Thrusher ("...there is no peace without victory.")
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To: quantim
[ Sorry, don't share that view. Socialists and RINOs have weakened the nation to be sure! ]

Rinos ARE socialists.. Republican socialists..
The democrats secret weapon->> Republican socialists..

Who will elect Hillary.?. Democrats and Republican Socialists mostly women..

16 posted on 10/17/2005 5:28:05 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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