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To: for-q-clinton
I'm ready for the Republican above principle crowd to bash me

Why don't you try to win WITHOUT US, Bush basher?

The Conservative movement may benefit by losing the House and Senate in 2006. I’m not advocating that we campaign to lose; however, if you look at the ramifications of losing in 2006 the Conservatives have a better chance of winning in 2008. Note: I didn’t say the Republicans I said Conservatives.

You may sneer at those of us you sneering deride as not being "real, true conservatives." But we can win without you -- you cannot win without us.

8 posted on 10/03/2005 8:06:34 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
But we can win without you -- you cannot win without us.

Amen.

11 posted on 10/03/2005 8:14:32 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Howlin
But we can win without you -- you cannot win without us.

HA! Don't get to comfortable after two "landslide" victories 2000, and 2004.

12 posted on 10/03/2005 8:17:01 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (but no more kool aid)
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To: Howlin

"You may sneer at those of us you sneering deride as not being "real, true conservatives." But we can win without you -- you cannot win without us."

I think his point is that if you win it doesn't matter because the Republicans don't capitalize on their win and move the government right. So we can't win without you, and you can win without us and do nothing. Great options.


13 posted on 10/03/2005 8:18:58 AM PDT by madconservative
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To: Howlin
" But we can win without you -- you cannot win without us.

Is this a joke? You can't really believe that. I'm not bush basher by the way. I am a concerned conservative that wants spending controlled.

14 posted on 10/03/2005 8:19:02 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Howlin

...But we can win without you -- you cannot win without us...


Good luck!

If "you" win, it's no different from if the democrats win.
Who cares?


15 posted on 10/03/2005 8:19:03 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The North American Community welcomes you to Canexico!)
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To: Howlin
You may sneer at those of us you sneering deride as not being "real, true conservatives." But we can win without you

Go back and look at 2000 and 2004 and then say that. With a straight face.
18 posted on 10/03/2005 8:21:01 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Howlin
Go Team! Let's lose one for the Gipper!

;o)

33 posted on 10/03/2005 8:32:46 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: Howlin
What is the point of winning if the republicans are as bad as the democrats? If you want bigger government, more bureaucracy, more stupid wasteful entitlements and continuing destruction of the country's values vote for the real thing and be done with it.
34 posted on 10/03/2005 8:32:55 AM PDT by jack308
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To: Howlin; for-q-clinton; dubyaismypresident; madconservative; af_vet_rr
But we can win without you -- you cannot win without us.

What will you have to promise to the myraid special interest groups in order to make up the difference?

42 posted on 10/03/2005 8:43:56 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: Howlin

Exactly! The Bush/Republican bashers are out in force today I see. Let's see we will be hearing a lot of "I am never voting Republican again, I am not donating one red cent to the Republicans ever again, Losing will help in 2008, Republicans have sold us out in Congress" just to name a few.

I love it when some of the original Bush bashers that never were Republican say they are never voting Republican again because (fill in the blank)!

You nailed it IMHO!


43 posted on 10/03/2005 8:46:54 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Istook for OK Gov in 06; Allen for Pres in 08)
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To: Howlin

You won't win without limited government conservatives behind you. If they stay home at the mid-terms and next national elections then don't be surprised if the republicans lose their majorities as well as the White House.


44 posted on 10/03/2005 8:48:59 AM PDT by misterrob
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