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Exactly! The Bush/Republican bashers are out in force today I see. Let's see we will be hearing a lot of "I am never voting Republican again, I am not donating one red cent to the Republicans ever again, Losing will help in 2008, Republicans have sold us out in Congress" just to name a few.

I love it when some of the original Bush bashers that never were Republican say they are never voting Republican again because (fill in the blank)!

You nailed it IMHO!

Trying to lump everybody in as a Bush basher diminishes the message - it's not Bush, it's the GOP. He's simply a reflection where where the GOP is going.

You could call me a Bush basher (which would be amusing because I voted for him three times), and I would find myself in good company (many people here, going back to the usenet days, were not fond of the current Bush being picked to run for President), but the fact is, the GOP has changed, and I and many others have not.

Think of it like this - many of the things President Bush and other Republicans at that level (or rather Congress) have said and done - had it been said and done by Clinton, or by Dems in Congress, would have been harshly criticized. Because it's a Republican, it's considered to be okay.

In some ways, it's almost natural that the GOP would have changed - after '94, the GOP has been picking the right battles and stances in order to win.

I full expect that the GOP 20 years from now will be quite unrecognizable to somebody nowadays.

Basically, we are probably considered the dinosaurs of the party.

I love it when some of the original Bush bashers that never were Republican say they are never voting Republican again because (fill in the blank)!

You nailed it IMHO!

Obviously you must not be referring to me or you don't know my history. I've been a pretty staunch Bush supporter. The one time I was sort of waivering was early on, but I said I'd defer opposition until the mid-term elections. If he delivers the House & Senate in the mid-term election in 2002, I'd stay on board. The thought was that with a Senate & House he'd at least pick true conservatives with a conservative record (as Reagan did) to the Supreme Court. But he's more like his father everyday. And he keeps helping Bill & Hillary take the white house in 08. He spends like a drunken sailor...not even a symbolic veto to cut $1 of pork.

I like the guy personally. But I'm not thrilled with his tactics and his inability to drive our message forward. As you can see I'm looking for reasons why we should care in 2006, not more reasons why I shouldn't care. I've seen one decent response as to why I should care to win in 2006. Instead of bashing me, try influencing me to your way of thinking.