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Katrina/New Orleans Timeline - Was FEMA Really Slow?
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| 8/26-9/1/2005
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Posted on 09/13/2005 9:08:00 PM PDT by PhatHead
Sorry for the long post, but I just want to add my timeline. Let me briefly explain the purpose of this. I tried to focus only on a couple of narrow issues. In particular, the now widely-accepted truth that the Federal response was slow and that people at the Convention Center and Superdome were somehow ignored or abandoned. In fact, as the timeline shows, those at the Superdome were actually well-fed (I say this as one who has eaten many MREs in his life.) They also began evacuating within two days of the hurricane, despite the added complication of the floods. Despite mockery of Chertoff and Browns statements that they did not know about the crowds at the Convention Center until Thursday, the 1st, my research confirmed my memory: nobody knew about them until then. Finally, I just wanted a few more notes to make clear that President bush and FEMA were well aware of the magnitude of the situation, and took actions before the storm.
I have tried to stay away from the actions of Blanco and Nagin, for the most part, because to me, the biggest story of Katrina, the most shameful part of it, is the way that it exposed the violent, the uncivilized and the helpless. They are truly victims not of the storm, but of decades of corrupt, bigoted liberal policies. Had more of them had a respect for the law, for private property and for self-reliance, wed have seen as little of them as we have seen of the many thousands of storm victims in neighboring Mississippi and in the outlying areas of Louisiana.
It is not my intent to minimize the true human suffering of all the victims, even those who might have, with a little foresight, alleviated some of their own suffering. Nobody deserves that. Nor is it my intent to portray the Superdome or Convention Center as comfortable havens. Rather, I want to emphasize that the rescue and relief efforts have been a massive, Herculean effort involving many thousands of people, both government and private. The largest natural disaster to ever strike this nation had devastated 90,000 square miles, left hundreds of thousands homeless, disrupted communications and destroyed major roads and highways. Even as some chanted for food at the Convention Center, many thousands more were being plucked from rooftops and swamps. In the midst of this, some tried to make the plight of people who were already in shelters the central issue; while thousands of brave men were still trying to save people in true jeopardy to bring them to a shelter. To decry as slow and racist the Federal governments response to this disaster simply because the buses took two days is a slander to the efforts of Katrinas true heroes.
Friday, 26 August 2005
- There is a plan! "It's always a huge concern, because there's a very large lake, Lake Pontchartrain, that sits next to New Orleans, and if the hurricane winds blow from a certain direction there are dire predictions of what may happen in that city, Blanco said." Source, CNN
Saturday, 27 August 2005
- FEMA (yeah, FEMA)activates Texas TF-1, Urban Search & Rescue (Source) and pre-stages them in Shreveport (Source.)
- But Texas TF-1 was not alone: "Seven of the 18 Urban Search and Rescue task forces FEMA has deployed were already in the region before the storm struck Sunday." Source, CNN By the way, these US&R teams exist for the purpose of "structuring local emergency personnel into integrated disaster response task forces. Source, FEMA.
- Somebody is taking this seriously: ""There's about 36 hours for folks to get ready," said Federal Emergency Management Agency director Michael Brown. "Beyond that, it's just too late. I can't emphasize enough to viewers how serious FEMA is taking this storm. The agency has dispatched teams to both states." Source, CNN
Sunday, 28 August 2005
- Sunday night, Blanco chats with larry King, and seems to know what's coming: "Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that New Orleans could expect a complete loss of electricity and water services as well as intense flooding." Source, CNN
- The city had told people to bring their own food and water to last 3-5 days.
- Seven trucks of food and three trucks of water were delivered to the Superdome on Sunday the 28th (and another convoy on Monday the 29th.)
- Last words from Nagin to people still in the city (we know whats coming Im sure we have a plan
): "New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin told folks to make sure they fill their upstairs bathtubs with water, and in case of real trouble, make sure you have a way of hacking through your roof -- so you are not trapped by rising water." Source, CNN
Monday, 29 August 2005
- Bush takes this seriously more seriously than most previous storms (oh, and by the way, Michael Brown is already in baton Rouge)"The president made sure the federal response would not be delayed by declaring emergencies in Mississippi, Florida and Alabama just hours after a similar declaration for Louisiana. Such declarations make federal aid available to assist with disaster relief, but they are rarely made before a storm even hits." Source, CNN
- Nagin, Blanco - everybody - recognizes what is likely to happen. Everybody - everybody - agrees that the city must be evacuated: "Nagin warned that Katrina's expected storm surge -- which could top 28 feet -- would likely topple those levies." And: "The shelters will end up probably without electricity or with minimum electricity from generators in the end, Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said. There may be intense flooding that will be not in our control which would be ultimately the most dangerous situation that many of our people could face." But, for the record, FEMA was there: "Federal Emergency Management Agency teams and other emergency teams were already in place to move in as soon as the storm was over, FEMA Under Secretary Michael Brown said." Source, CNN
- It was more than MREs at the Superdome: "Sunday night, the military delivered 360,000 meals-ready-to-eat to the 30,000 people using the Superdome as a shelter. Hot food was served Sunday night and Monday morning by workers with the Orleans Parish Sheriff's Office." Source, Times-Picayune
- CNN thinks there are only 10,000 in the Superdome. The roof has been ripped open, but we are assured that and the state of Louisiana has it all under control: "It's going to be very terrifying for a lot of people, but the command center is fully aware of what is going on," Landrieu said." Source, CNN
Tuesday, 30 August 2005
- The Feds have done a lot so far, according to CNN.
- Blanco calls for evacuation of the Superdome, now without power, and with a hole in the roof, and with the city flooded. Source, Times-Picayune
- In the first report mentioning the Convention Center, city officials are only now mulling the possibility of using it, and acknowledge there are many people stranded in the city (note: they still dont seem to realize they should be trying to get people out): "City officials said they might open the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center as a temporary refuge to shelter an estimated 50,000 people made homeless by the storm." Source, Times-Picayune
- The National Guard was on the ground in the French Quarter (for those not familiar, this is a short walk from the Convention Center.) Still no mention of problems at the Convention Center the biggest problem remains looting and anarchy. "National Guard troops moved toward the French Quarter in an effort to stop rising unrest in flood-stricken New Orleans late Tuesday as police reported looting, attempted carjackings and shootings near the city's main shelter." Source, CNN
Wednesday, 31 August 2005
- "A caravan of buses departed the Louisiana Superdome Wednesday evening bound for the Astrodome in Houston, Texas, with the first contingent of the nearly 25,000 people who sought shelter in the sports arena." Source, CNN
- 48 hours after the hurricane has hit, and three days after the very first people took shelter there (more are still drifting in), the Federal government is assisting with evacuation of the Supedome. Source, Times-Picayune
- Is it any wonder Nagin did not seem to see any problems with Federal assistance during this interview with Soledad OBrien? And neither he nor the infobabe mention the Convention Center because they didnt know of any problem there yet either.
- Why wouldnt he be happy? FEMA had prepositioned massive resources, that were even then pouring into the city (pardon the expression.)
- At 11:00 PM, the first report about refugees at the Convention Center appears: "With 3,000 or more evacuees stranded at the convention center -- and with no apparent contingency plan or authority to deal with them ..." Source, Times-Picayune
Thursday, 1 September 2005
- There are already buses at the Convention Center: "A few blocks closer to the Mississippi River, hordes of other refugees hoofed it to the convention center, hoping to catch a ride on buses staging there. Others tried to thumb rides, and others were breaking into cars, some of them in downtown parking garages, hoping to steal one." Source, Times-Picayune
- But reports of problems at the Convention Center are just beginning to come out: "Frustration and sadness were overtaken by desperation in New Orleans by Thursday morning, as tens of thousands of refugees outside the Superdome seethed at the slow pace of relief efforts, thousands more straggled on foot to a bus staging area at the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center, and lawlessness pervaded the parts of town away from the main relief efforts." Source, Times-Picayune
- Michael Brown says he first learned of the Convention Center problems on September 1st Source, CNN
- " Let me ask you about images that many Americans are seeing today, and hearing about." so asked the NPR reporter in the "gotcha" interview of Chertoff. (Transcript at DailyKos. But read the transcript the interviewer is getting the reports on the other line froma reporter during the interview.
- Heres how NPR reported it that very day:"But it has now emerged that people stranded at the New Orleans Convention Center -- about eight blocks away from the Superdome -- are in dire straights, lacking basic essentials and avoiding corpses and waste on the streets." Source, NPR
- COMMENTARY: Yes, it this make Chertoff look out of touch, especially when replayed in juxtaposition with video of the chanting refugees. But at the time of the interview, he was being asked to comment on things that were only just then being reported. Everybody who says now that Chertoff should have turned on his TV and then he'd be as smart as us (or words to that effect) needs to understand that while we were hearing these reports for the first time, Chertoff was hearing them, too. But he was not listening to the media he was being interviewed by them. If there was a problem here it isn't that Chertoff or Brown did not get their information from the media - the problem is that they did. Apparently, the NOPD was telling people to go to the Convention Center, but not telling anybody outside the city to come and get them.
Saturday, 3 September 2005
- Everybody is gone from the Convention Center, 48 hours after the first reports of problems, three days after the first people arrived there: "With the help of thousands of federal troops, Col. Henry Whitehorn said 19,000 people had been removed from the convention center in less than 24 hours" Source, Times-Picayune
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KEYWORDS: blanco; fema; katrina; katrinatimeline; mdm; nagin; neworleans; notfemasfault; timeline
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To: Deano4USA
I think you should add this to your time line. You just did - thanks!
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posted on
09/14/2005 6:25:38 AM PDT
by
PhatHead
To: zot
To: PhatHead
Thanks.
When the media, politicians and "victims" scream, "somebody help!!!" Who do they think the "somebody" is?
Even if FEMA had water, meals, cots, tents, medical supplies etc., hovering overhead N.Orleans on 8/31 - who was the 'somebody' supposed to deliver it and under what conditions?
Oh yeah - that's right - THE MILITARY - so denigrated by the
media, politicians and folks unwilling to enlist in it.
sp
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posted on
09/14/2005 7:23:42 AM PDT
by
sodpoodle
(Newbie, PhD. Tenure allows you to stay put - NOT evict others.)
To: PhatHead
People need to get this through their heads. "FEMA is a bureaucracy, nothing more, nothing less." It does not matter who is in the White House. Do not place your life in the hands of a bureaucracy.
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posted on
09/14/2005 7:25:09 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: PhatHead
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posted on
09/14/2005 7:43:31 AM PDT
by
Polybius
To: ThePythonicCow
To: ThePythonicCow; PhatHead; fastattacksailor; swordfish71; broadsword; Nesher; jan in Colorado; ...
Thanks for the PING, Pythonic Cow, excellent work PhatHead!
C'mon see the show PING!
Sorry if some of you have already been pinged on this.
It's great that there's such a solid record of events, if only it could get past the MSM roadblock, but let's keep chipping away...
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posted on
09/14/2005 8:17:01 AM PDT
by
Former Dodger
( "Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Einstein)
To: PhatHead; ThePythonicCow
Thank you very much for this thread, PhatHead. Every new piece of information helps fill in gaps that might have existed in earlier timelines.
Thanks for the ping TPC.
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posted on
09/14/2005 8:42:38 AM PDT
by
Wolfstar
(NOTE TO MSM: Each state is sovereign over its own territory. GWB is NOT king of the U.S.)
To: ThePythonicCow
Thanks for the ping.
Bookmarked
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posted on
09/14/2005 9:56:09 AM PDT
by
BARLF
To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!
Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my miscellaneous ping list.
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posted on
09/14/2005 10:08:53 AM PDT
by
nutmeg
("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
To: PhatHead
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posted on
09/14/2005 12:49:36 PM PDT
by
chaosagent
(Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
To: Gaas
To: Interesting Times
Thanks for the ping.
I'm hoping the White House will publish a well-documented timeline of what President Bush actually did and when.
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posted on
09/14/2005 2:34:26 PM PDT
by
zot
(GWB -- four more years!)
To: ThePythonicCow; PhatHead
Thanks for the time and effort involved in putting together a package like this.
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posted on
09/14/2005 6:17:20 PM PDT
by
ForGod'sSake
(ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
To: nutmeg
I'm bookmarking this. Thank you kindly.
To: PhatHead
To: Victoria Delsoul
I was thinking that the Superdome was more than 8 blocks from the Convention Center -- I saw on another post the address was 1500 Poydras -- the Convention Center is right on the river, so that's like 14-15 blocks. (mapquest is slow right now).
To: scrabblehack
I see. Thanks for the info.
To: ThePythonicCow
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