Gideons sending 40,000 New Testaments to Astrodome

The Gideons International are sending 40,000 Personal Witnessing Testaments (New Testament, Psalms, Proverbs) to be distributed at the Astrodome and other relief centers in Houston.

My camp in Clear Lake is the focal point for organizing Gideon volunteers to help with the distribution. We are doing this in cooperation with the Salvation Army.

If you are a Gideon, or a minister, and would like to help the Salvation Army and Gideons minister to the people and distribute the New Testaments please freep mail me your name and phone number and either myself, the Salvation Army or a Gideon organizer will contact you.

At this time we are working with our own personal cell phones until we get a headquarters established. You may also contact the Gideons International HQ in Nashville, TN and they can forward your information. Telephone: (615)564-5000 or Email us at tgi@gideons.org

The scriptures are on a truck due to arrive Sunday by 10 a.m. and we are planning shifts to provide patoral care 24/7.

God is at work, and we are called by Him to Serve His Will. There was a purpose for Katrina, let us not fail to fulfill our duties.

"Save it for someone who cares"....where's the love?
Now you're just being mean. And you call ME condescending?!

There is no condescension over on my end, merely amusement at your irritation. I've never witnessed someone almost explode on a post at the suggestion that bibles be sent to a tragedy stricken area.

"The issues of sustenance have always been priorities. I've never insisted that Bibles were being handed out instead of food and water or ahead of food and water. " And?...Yet you are complaining about priorities?

Could you contradict yourself alittle more, cause its not muddled enough? - *okay... THAT was sarcasm*

"Your post is absolutely wrong on all accounts." Like what?

You still haven't made a point. What are you ranting on about? If your quote is true then why are you so mad about passing out Bibles? Follow the logic: If people are getting food and water (etc) how is a bible project a misplaced priority?

What IS your problem? And what exactly , according to you, is 'wrong' in my post? If you believe that people are getting food, etc. what is so awful about the Gideons passing out bibles?

You're very good at not addressing the issue. Do you or do you NOT agree that people are getting aid AND bibles? I think its clear (to me) that you must hate religion, particularly Christianity,...and before you claim to be spiritual and go to church on Sunday I would remind you that people who are practicing Christians would never have had a problem with this project, since the Word of God is never a 'misplaced priority'

It is fascinating that your insecurities are so great you feel compelled to criticize the delivery of a desperately needed item to the very people who are Christian and are seeking the comfort and wisdom of Gods words for themselves.

These are not your people. You do not own them, yet you feel it necessary to tell them what they need and don't need?

You exhibit all of the traits of a person in denial about the existence of God, and in denial about the importance of Christ to Christians.

You have much to learn, yet you are confident you lready know enough to make such serious determinations about the needs of people you have never met, nor come close to understanding.

You are so far from understanding that you really do not know what you do not know. You only know your own fears and anxieities.

" The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction." -- Proverbs 1:7

For you to state there is absolutely no God (which is the basis of your comments) requires you to have absolute knowledge of everything. That is arrogance bordering on instability. [You cannot possibly believe there is a God and then suppose that His influence and comfort is not needed in this time of great tragedy.]

When you understand that "fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom" then you will begin to understand the basis for the greatest civilization mankind has ever known; the Western Civilization.

When you understand this you will begin to understand the foundations of modern science which has improved the human condition faster than at any time in human history. Sir Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein understood this. It motivated both of them.

"There are more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than any in profane history." -- Sir Isaac Newton, founder of modern science
"Everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe -- a spirit vastly superior to that of man." -- Albert Einstein
"I want to know His (God's) thoughts. The rest are details." -- Albert Einstein
"The scientist is possessed by the sense of universal causation...His religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection." -- Albert Einstein

When you understand this you will begin to understand the basis of the greatest nation ever created by man. Thomas Jefferson understood;

"I hold the precepts of Jesus as delivered by Himself, to be the most pure, benevolent and sublime which have ever been preached to men..." -- Thomas Jefferson, Nov 4, 1820 letter to Jared Sparks
I have little doubt that the whole country will soon be rallied to the unity of our Creator, and, I hope, to the pure doctrines of Jesus also." -- Thomas Jefferson, Library of American Literature, Vol III pp 283-284 Stephen Abbot Northrop
"I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was siting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favour. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man." -- Alexander Hamilton, "Ratifier of the Constitution"

Your purpose for making these posts on a Christian thread is to either understand the needs of Christians or validate your own beliefs. Since you did not make your posts as a question, then I can be clear that you are not interested in understanding Christians so the latter reason must be correct. You hope to receive endorsements and applause for your own ideas and thereby receive validation for your own faith from other men.

No man convinced me Jesus is real. No man can convince me He is not real. We who have received Jesus as our personal Lord and saviour knew immediately the truth and power of the Holy Spirit.

For you however, your entire faith rests with your own logic, and your own brain. How many trees have you created today? How many galaxies have you spun into motion?

No, you do not believe in God, because if you did believe in a God with the power to create the universe then you would believe God also has the power to interact with His own beings in any manner in which He chooses.

He does exist and He does interact with those who are called by Him.

"But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, 14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ." -- 2 Thessalonians 2:12-14

BTW: Nobody can convert anybody into a Christian. There is no logic or argument that can be made to convince somebody to be a Christian. That is not how it works, so you need not fear that somebody will be forcibly given a Bible and made to accept Jesus (which seems to be a common belief among atheists and non-Christians.)

Those who accept Christ are called by God. We can only bear witness.

God Bless You

I was an agnostic/deist for 30 years before I was called to accept Christ.

I would have sounded much like MplsSteve then. I was sure I knew it all. My logic seemed infallible. I was materially very successful. I was well educated and leading R&D projects. How could I be wrong?

Looking back, where I went wrong was that I assumed God and science could not exist simultaneously. I assumed that if God exists and the Bible was true then our science is all wrong, and I could not believe our science is all wrong.

Well, after I accepted Christ I got my first lesson about a most important matter for science. I learned that there is a Holy Spirit. Every ounce of my being suddenly felt the presence of the Spirit and every sense I had knew it for what it was.

Then I realized we can know the Spirit exists in the world the same way we can know Love exists in the world (because they are both internal manifestations not detectable by science, yet)). We know they exist by their actions.

BTW: We are now learning that science has been wrong, in many major ways. The Universe is not expanding at a slowing rate (destroying prevailing theories about the origin of the Universe)and string theory has shown that there are as many as 11 dimensions, yet we exist in only 4 (who or what exists in the other 7?). More scientists are beginning to realize that their science is proving God must exist, not the other way around.

LOL. You just proved the point I made in the post which you didn't read. You felt compelled to speak out about something you know nothing about.

" Do you see a man wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him." -- Proverbs 26:12

Your type is well known. You are not original.

" The fool has said in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt,
They have done abominable works,
There is none who does good.
The LORD looks down from heaven upon the children of men,
To see if there are any who understand, who seek God.
They have all turned aside,
They have together become corrupt;
There is none who does good,
No, not one.
Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge,
Who eat up my people as they eat bread,
And do not call on the LORD?
There they are in great fear,
For God is with the generation of the righteous.
You shame the counsel of the poor,
But the LORD is his refuge.
-- Psalms 14:1-6

Now, I always enjoy reading the Bible and finding quotes but I must get back to more serious work

"It is honorable for a man to stop striving, Since any fool can start a quarrel." -- Proverbs 20:2-4

Have a great day and don't take any wooden nickels!

I was hoping you would actually defend your comments and/or further explain your hostility towards the Gideons book drive.

I'm not proselytizing here. And haven't tried to convert you. I merely wanted you to explain YOUR condescension towards Bible readers.
Do you have any idea what Scripture means to practicing Christians? (That is a legitimate question not a rhetorical one.) Because if you did I doubt you would be so offended at this entire project.
(That is an observation not a condescending comment.)

"I stand by all my previous comments."
None of which you would clarify. You refused to address my posts or further explain to me what you meant.

"Save your misguided priorities and condescending attitude for someone who cares."
Any condescension involved is all you.

You have yet to fully explain how bibles are a 'misguided priority' given the fact that material aid was already sent.
That was all I asked you to clarify.

The only thing that was misguided here was my impression that you had a point.

This is like arguing with a liberal. No clear point to make, just insults. You may want to move back to the DU. Now if you want to clarify, please do. I was under the impression that there was something other that hatred for the Gospel in your argument. Now I've asked you several times and its starting to get wearisome. Assuming you are an adult and not a full fledged angry atheist liberal, can you rationally answer why the prospect of passing out Bibles with aid so offends you? And enough with the the 'misplaced priorities' euphemism. Its starting to sound like your personal code word for "I hate Bibles." We've already established that the people are getting aid. Therefore nothing else seems likely other than your deeply held personal hostility towards Christianity.

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