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Utah Ravers Meet Police State
Deadline Live Forum ^ | Aug 22, 2005 | Various

Posted on 08/22/2005 10:45:56 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill

Quote: First hand account from Knick of Evol Intent...

Last night, I was booked to play an event about an hour outside of Salt Lake City, Utah. The hype behind this show was huge, they presold 700 tickets and they expected up to 3,000 people total. The promoters did an amazing job with the show.. they even made slipmats with the flyers on them to promote in local shops.

So, we got to the show around 11:15 or so and it was really cool. It was all outdoors, in a valley surrounded by huge mountains. They had an amazing light show flashing on to a mountain behind the site, the sound was booming, the crowd was about 1500 people thick and everything just seemed too good to be true really. Well...

At about 11:30 or so, I was standing behind the stage talking with someone when I noticed a helicopter pulling over one of the mountain tops. I jokingly said "Oh look, here comes big brother" to the person I was with. I wasn't far off.

The helicopter dipped lower and lower and started shining its lights on the crowd. I was kind of in awe and just sat and watched this thing circle us for a minute. As I looked back towards the crowd I saw a guy dressed in camoflauge walking by, toting an assault rifle. At this point, everyone was fully aware of what was going on . A few "troops" rushed the stage and cut the sound off and started yelling that everyone "get the fudge out of here or go to jail". This is where it got really sticky.

No one resisted. That's for sure. They had police dogs raiding the crowd of people and I saw a dog signal out a guy who obviously had some drugs on him.

The soldiers attacked the guy (4 of them on 1), and kicked him a few times in the ribs and had their knees in his back and sides.

As they were cuffing him, there was about 1000 kids trying to leave in the backdrop, peacefully. Next thing I know, A can of Frigging TEAR GAS is launched into the crowd.

People are running and screaming at this point. Girls are crying, guys are cussing... bad scene.

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KEYWORDS: banglsit; dea; donutwatch; dopeheads; fascism; jackbootedthugs; jbtapologists; libertarians; losertarian; policestatethugs; rave; wodlist
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To: finnman69
"The Sheriff's Office will investigate and look into and find an illegal mass gathering going on, we will take the appropriate action to stop the party at that time,"

I guess that 'freedom of assembly' has gone the same way of 'property rights' in this once great country.

61 posted on 08/22/2005 2:33:11 PM PDT by Looking4Truth (Never trust the old media for information.)
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To: dljordan
harming no one

end of argument, if you don't ackowledge the destructive nature of these usually clandestine events and the rampant drug use, and the crime that goes along with the drugs we have nothing else to talk about.

I have ZERO problem with the police closing down a rave like this.

Freepers taking the side of the dope heads over the police. Not the first time for sure.

62 posted on 08/22/2005 2:38:37 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Utah has a higher divorce rate than the national average.

Well, with more wives comes more divorces.

I keeed! Just a little regional humor.
63 posted on 08/22/2005 2:39:32 PM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: Looking4Truth
I guess that 'freedom of assembly' has gone the same way of 'property rights' in this once great country.

Why is it the same Freepers who stomp and scream for sending the National Guard to close down the Mexican borders flinch when the police are used to go after lawbreakers?

64 posted on 08/22/2005 2:42:29 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: ActionNewsBill
I guess it's easier and safer to bust a bunch of high teenagers and young adults.

(sarcasm) Yes, it's a nice way to teach them that they cannot trust government...

65 posted on 08/22/2005 2:45:00 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Yes, it's a nice way to teach them that they cannot trust government...

I bet if these same ravers had antiwar banners and Anarchist t-shirts on, there would be different opinions expressed towards the police.

66 posted on 08/22/2005 2:59:18 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Grut

OK. But I guess the question has to be asked is whether we will ever arrive at an objective truth in the midst of all the spin.


67 posted on 08/22/2005 3:00:48 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Not on my watch!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Sounds like bad actors all around. Has the feel of some real 'facts.'


68 posted on 08/22/2005 3:04:25 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Not on my watch!)
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To: SunnySide
When the perps keep growing in numbers and became more deranged and dangerous shooting with assault rifles, thats when.

Sunnyside -I forget - are you a bootlicker or an actual jackboot?

69 posted on 08/22/2005 3:17:11 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: finnman69
Why is it the same Freepers who stomp and scream for sending the National Guard to close down the Mexican borders flinch when the police are used to go after lawbreakers?

Why is it the same Freepers who stomp and scream for sending the National Guard to close down the Mexican borders from ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS flinch when the police are used to go after lawbreakers teenage citizens?

Because they have common sense?

70 posted on 08/22/2005 3:22:00 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: finnman69
I bet if these same ravers had antiwar banners and Anarchist t-shirts on, there would be different opinions expressed towards the police.

We don't know that. They could have been Pro-Bush for all we know. Besides, note the (sarcasm) tag in my last post.

71 posted on 08/22/2005 3:32:16 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: BootsOfEscaping
"So let me get this straight, the national guard busts a bunch of "ravers" "

Where did you get "the national guard busts a bunch of ravers?"

72 posted on 08/22/2005 3:53:48 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: finnman69; Wolfie; dljordan; ActionNewsBill
Care to enlighten me as to what was illegal about an undercover stakeout that witnessed illegal behavior at an illegal event and was then promptly shut down?

The DEA lets $4 Billion dollars worth of drug cross our southern border and who know about the northern border proceeds.

Then these same DEA guys raids a summer party. These uniformed turds are focusing on the wrong people.

I like Wolfie's comment:You could do the same thing at every NFL tailgate and make the same number of arrests.

I could hear all of the tough talk at the war room meeting how their going to get the kids.

BFD!

I say get your tough guy act on our borders and protect this country from the real threat.

Ya know dljordan you right these are the tactics of a freak'in police state!

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Mikhail Gorbachev and Vladimir Putin were among the audience when ex-Beatle Paul McCartney staged a spectacular show in Russia on May 24, 2003.

Yeah Paul, those Ukraine girls
really knock me off my feet to.

73 posted on 08/22/2005 4:57:37 PM PDT by Major_Risktaker
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To: Sir Gawain
It would've been funny if every single raver was packing heat.

Why? They would kill each other.

74 posted on 08/22/2005 6:34:14 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: ActionNewsBill

I'd like to see both sides of the story. Excuse me if I don't take some message board post from some dopehead raver "damning The Man" at face value.


75 posted on 08/22/2005 8:53:25 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: finnman69; dljordan
Care to enlighten me as to what was illegal about an undercover stakeout that witnessed illegal behavior at an illegal event and was then promptly shut down?

Respect for the rule of law is an out-there concept for some.
76 posted on 08/22/2005 8:57:42 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Sir Gawain
How do you know the event was illegal? Oh yeah, the police said so, and they never lie.

How do you know the event was legal? Oh yeah, your first instinct is to accuse all law enforcement of lying all the time. But hey, Nick of Evol Intent says the cops are lying so it must be true. Good grief.
77 posted on 08/22/2005 8:58:56 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: satan
My concern is that we can't tell the police from the military. At least Hitler had the SS wear black.

Wheee!!!! Dropping the Hitler references in only 50 posts or less! You're a friggin whack job and should bury your head in shame.
78 posted on 08/22/2005 9:00:53 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Sir Gawain
It would've been funny if every single raver was packing heat.

I'm not sure why it would be funny. Sounds like a lot of dead, wounded, and incarcerated ravers and some dead or wounded law enforcement officers too.

Oh I get it, you're just trying to act macho by saying ridiculous things on a public forum.
79 posted on 08/22/2005 9:03:02 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Utah has a higher divorce rate than the national average

Utah has a higher marriage rate than the national average.

80 posted on 08/22/2005 9:04:59 PM PDT by JCEccles
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