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The U.S.-Mexico Totalization Agreement Closer To Going Before Congress
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Posted on 07/30/2005 7:42:37 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

The U.S.-Mexico Totalization Agreement

The U.S. Commissioner of Social Security signed a totalization agreement with the Director General of the Mexican Social Security Institute on June 29, 2004. Now that the agreement has been signed, it must be reviewed first by the State Department, and then by the White House, which will submit it to Congress. Congress will have then have 60 "legislative" days to review the agreement. During this period, current law authorizes either Chamber to pass a Resolution of Disapproval of the agreement, or it will take effect automatically at the end of the 60-day period. In addition, the Mexican Senate must affirmatively approve the totalization agreement.

"Totalization" agreements are bilateral agreements between the United States and another country to coordinate their social security programs. These agreements eliminate the need to pay social security taxes in both countries when companies in one country send workers to the other country, and they protect benefit eligibility for workers who divide their careers between the two countries. The United States currently has totalization agreements with 20 countries, including Canada, Chile, South Korea, Australia and most of Western Europe.

Social Security Benefits for Illegal Aliens

U.S. law bars aliens living here illegally from receiving social security benefits. However, until 2004, the law permitted aliens to claim credit for work performed while here illegally if the aliens either left the United States or obtained legal status in the United States. If such work - either alone or in combination with work performed while here legally - amounted to the 40 quarters of work required to become eligible for social security benefits, these aliens (and their spouses and dependents) would receive full benefits.

In February 2004, Congress passed H.R. 743, the Social Security Protection Act, which includes a provision authored by Senator Grassley (R-Iowa), Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, that prohibits aliens (and their spouses and dependents) from claiming social security credit for work performed while in the United States illegally unless the alien obtains legal status at some point. Although this represents a major improvement in the law, it does not entirely close the loophole that permits benefits to be paid on the basis of work performed by illegal aliens. As noted in the Senate Finance Committee's report on H.R. 743, "individuals who begin working illegally and later obtain legal status could still use their illegal earnings to qualify for Social Security benefits" despite this new provision (Senate Rpt.108-176, p. 24).

This law applies to aliens of all nationalities, regardless of the existence of totalization agreements. The agreements compound the problem, however, by increasing the pool of foreign workers who can qualify for U.S. social security benefits on the basis of work performed while here illegally. Under totalization agreements:

What Makes the Mexico Agreement Different from the Others?

While the text of the agreement with Mexico has not yet been made publicly available, it is likely to be virtually identical to the 20 other agreements. The impact of the Mexico agreement is likely to be significantly different, however, because there are critical differences between Mexico and the other countries with which the United States has totalization agreements, including:

  1. The economic disparity between the United States and Mexico, combined with the fact that our countries share a land border, has generated migration from Mexico to the United States at levels not comparable to any of the other 20 countries; and

  2. The Department of Homeland Security estimates that Mexicans represent almost 70 percent of the 10 million illegal aliens currently residing in the United States. Among the other 20 countries, South Koreans and Canadians comprise the next largest shares - 0.07 percent each -- of the illegal population.

The Costs of the Mexico Agreement

The Social Security Administration (SSA) estimates that a totalization agreement with Mexico would:

In a review requested by Congress, the GAO found that:

DHS statistics show that more than 28,000 Mexicans who had entered the United States illegally at some point were granted legal permanent resident status in 2002. Another 121,000 Mexicans who were already living here were granted legal permanent resident status in 2002, despite the fact that DHS had no record of them being lawfully admitted to the country. Under current law, these immigrants can claim credit for any work they performed while here illegally, in addition to work the perform after obtaining legal status. And these numbers reflect only one year.

Can the U.S.-Mexico Totalization Agreement Be Stopped?

Once the President submits the agreement to Congress, which was expected to happen after the elections in November (but has not yet happened), it goes into effect automatically unless the House of Representatives or the Senate adopts a resolution of disapproval within 60 legislative days. According to the Congressional Research Service, however, the resolution of disapproval mechanism currently in the Social Security Act is an unconstitutional legislative veto, based on the Supreme Court's decision in INS v. Chadha (462 U.S. 919 (1983)), in which the Supreme Court struck down a similar provision in the Immigration and Nationality Act.

Since Congress has never rejected a totalization agreement, the fact that the mechanism for disapproval is unconstitutional has not been an issue. Unless the law is changed, though, it is likely that passage of a resolution of disapproval would give rise to a judicial challenge, potentially resulting in a determination that the agreement is effective.


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To: politicalwit
I've long said that GWB is a greater threat to America than terrorists. The SOB is giving away the country without a shot being fired.

He has nothing to lose with these disastrous changes he's making in America, but the Senators and Representatives who vote for this insanity have a lot to lose - their jobs.

41 posted on 07/31/2005 11:16:10 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Borax Queen
When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."

Henry and the whole bunch need to be tarred and feathered and run out of our government (if we have a government left in the USA).

42 posted on 07/31/2005 11:19:27 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: AirBorn; adam_az
The chances of a Republican winning the Presidency in 2008 are now next to nothing.

2006 will be RINO crying time.

43 posted on 07/31/2005 1:38:22 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: BIRDS; AirBorn; FBD
"Hillary Clinton is going to use this issue and use it and use it and make it a mantra . ."

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Hillary is courting the Mexican lobby every bit as much as the RINOs are . .

Senator Clinton Votes


44 posted on 07/31/2005 1:41:33 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: BIRDS; FBD
"...so we need someone and soon to disallow this maudlin defeatism from setting in. I feel it beginning to, is my point, among conservatives, largely based upon a lot of disappointments about the immigration issues."

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45 posted on 07/31/2005 1:44:25 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
George Bush's job was to destabilize America by first getting most of the good jobs outsourced to foreign countries. Next, he saw to it that American citizens are forced to pay billions of dollars to the Mexican illegals for their care.

Next, he is planning an all out war on the middle class, and when he is finished we'll all be paupers. However, he is still the beloved president of the Republicans, the bussinessmen and the greedy corporations.

46 posted on 07/31/2005 3:42:20 PM PDT by swampfox98 (How American became a nation of traitors: Greed, corrupt politicians and religious leaders.)
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To: BIRDS

bump^ and ditto


47 posted on 07/31/2005 4:05:15 PM PDT by FBD ("...the border is a dangerous place..."~DHS Sec. Michael Chertoff House Testimony)
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To: Happy2BMe

Same old crap from the Bush GOP, makes the Clinton years look like a Golden Age. No party can sell out the nation and it people like a Bush GOP party.


48 posted on 08/01/2005 6:12:36 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Borax Queen; NRA2BFree
It seems like they are trying to speed things up toward the one-world socialist Utopia - since so many of us are catching on to their plans. Soon, it will be illegal to discuss such matters (because we are such racist vigilantes). . .

And when that happens, can the abolition of the Second Amendment be far behind? Not merely chipping away at it, but outright abolition, followed by martial law, followed by confiscation.

Can't have a global, one-world, socialist utopia with 200 million firearms floating around in private hands, now can we?

49 posted on 08/29/2005 8:34:25 AM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: janetgreen
He has nothing to lose with these disastrous changes he's making in America, but the Senators and Representatives who vote for this insanity have a lot to lose - their jobs.

I'd agree nwith you, but for the fact we keep voting the same old political hacks back into office.

50 posted on 08/29/2005 8:35:54 AM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: BIRDS

The "two-party system" is an illusion. We've been shoved past the point of no return. Get ready for things to get much worse, very fast.


51 posted on 08/29/2005 12:48:45 PM PDT by steenkeenbadges (Behold a pale horse.)
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To: Happy2BMe; Borax Queen

this is incredulous


52 posted on 08/29/2005 2:33:06 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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