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Hugh Hewitt, Conservative Fraud
July 25, 2005 | Mark Outland

Posted on 07/25/2005 3:28:22 PM PDT by moutland

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To: Darkwolf377

While I generally agree with your comments on principle, it is not a good idea to let someone pass themself off as a conservative when they're actually quite luke warm on the subject. It's the best way I know of the enable others to be luke warm, and quite comfortable in that position.

Thanks for the comments.


41 posted on 07/25/2005 4:47:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: moutland

Outraged, are you?

People should really "tow the line" and "walk the walk" and "do the right thing," huh?

Well, MOUTLAND, this little diatribe of yours is a VANITY; it's supposed to be MARKED as such so those of us who don't care about your hissy fit don't have to bother reading it.


42 posted on 07/25/2005 4:50:55 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: DoughtyOne
IMHO there is a big difference between some muslim running off his mouth to a pollster and someone actually willing to strap on a belt or backpack. If we really bombed Mecca we would increase that group about a million-fold plus have entire muslim countries declaring war on us. It's just a dumb remark.

If we get a terrorist nuke attack, God forbid, there are lots of very painful ways to retaliate, including places to bomb, without being dumb about it.

43 posted on 07/25/2005 4:51:32 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: EveningStar

Agreed!


44 posted on 07/25/2005 4:52:58 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: EveningStar
As i noted on the other threads, I didn't like Tancredo's off the cuff comment at all, it was harmful.

Tancredo's column that Hewitt is criticizing is close to being on target. IMO the states cultivating and financing terrorism, foremost Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran, Syria, Egypt et al have to know there will be serious repercussions for both their direct and indirect actions.

45 posted on 07/25/2005 4:53:13 PM PDT by SJackson (On the second try, I got that jug off [the bear's head], but then I had a bear tied to a tree)
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To: DoughtyOne
Well, let me put it this way, I only occassionally listen to or read Hewitt's comments, and when I get to some of his comments on, for example, immigration, I just move along. I don't think anyone owns the copyright on what is or is not conservatism--there are a lot of nonreligious conservatives like me, for example, and a religious person would (and have) call me a liberal just based on the fact that I don't practice a religion.

To be honest, I don't pay much attention to those writers and commentators who seem to just repeat the orthodoxy. The kinds of commentators I like to read or listen to are those who are of the opposing side, or those on my side who, while we don't see eye to eye on all things, they show me things I didn't know or examine things from a position I never thought of--Mark Steyn and Rush Limbaugh, for example.

So, back to the original point, I don't SEE the point in abandoning someone because he's not the "right" kind of conservative, though of course you and anyone else is perfectly free to do that. I just don't think it's a smart way to feed one's mind.

46 posted on 07/25/2005 4:54:02 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Dean won't call UBL guilty without a trial, but thinks DeLay and Rove should be in jail)
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To: BlueNgold

Yes, you did: Anyone who disagrees with those you listed ... are... BushBots!


47 posted on 07/25/2005 4:54:15 PM PDT by Alia
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To: moutland
the unchecked Mexican invasion of illiterate illegals,

whew. no wonder they call us bigots. some of us apparently are.

48 posted on 07/25/2005 4:54:40 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (In Honor of Terri Schiavo. *check my FReeppage for the link* Let it load and have the sound on.)
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To: mhking; Impeach the Boy
These kind of posts always bring to mind this post from Impeach the Boy:

To: u-89
Rockwell, and his band of self-professed true patriots, are a gaggle of silly long winded arrogant know-nothings. The problem with this tiny cirle-jerk, is that THEY believe THEY have the TRUE compass, and wish to DEFINE all and everything under the sun by their divine revelations.....Conservative can come in more than one shade, and 99.9% of conservatives are NOT going to let these goofy dipsticks define them...and they will not allow them to create a Hilter BROWNSHIRT "Committe To Determine Who Is Really Conservative".
45 posted on 03/25/2003 3:01:52 PM EST by Impeach the Boy

49 posted on 07/25/2005 4:54:48 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Alia

Your timing is impeccable - I was just called that on another thread. LMAO.


50 posted on 07/25/2005 4:58:10 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Darkwolf377

I will admit to being somewhat reticent to list exactly what a person must believe in, to be a conservative.

I do think it's a lot easier to pick a few core issues and see how people stand on them. While I wouldn't go so far as to say this eliminated them from being a conservative, I would say it does cause some circumspection about what their views on other issues would be.

This could cause me to view them as a moderate conservative which isn't much better than a moderate democrat IMO.


51 posted on 07/25/2005 5:00:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: BlueNgold

lol! Are you also being told that you don't love this country as much as "that" person does? And if you don't agree with "their" point -- you aren't a *real* conservative or patriot?..... OOOhhh.. the sting of such pithy adjectives.. lol.


52 posted on 07/25/2005 5:02:14 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia; BlueNgold

I myself am partial to the ones who imply that "you" just don't understand what the United States Constitution says.......and/or the Founding Fathers.

Like THEY have some sort of "inside" on the true meaning of each and every word of it.


53 posted on 07/25/2005 5:07:55 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin; moutland

I like Hugh Hewitt a lot and I don't think he's a "RINO" for a moment, nor do I doubt his conservatism for a moment. However, I will say this: if mounland hadn't posted a thread, I would have. But I would have probably entitled it, "Why is Hugh Hewitt kissing the butt of this CAIR assclown?"

I have not followed Tancredo very closely at all on the immigration issue. However, it doesn't matter what Tancredo says, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BOMB MECCA! Therefore, it's a moot point. I think Hugh is obsessing over this Tancredo quote. Big time.


54 posted on 07/25/2005 5:19:23 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Howlin
Hey! I understand the Founding Fathers perfectly. I know them personally. In fact, I saw them speak the other night and here's the video to prove it!
55 posted on 07/25/2005 5:26:54 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Howlin

.. and they insult with ad hominems, direct and implied, while attempting to "persuade" you to their line of thinking. "Oh yes, pls, can I have some more of that?" blech.


56 posted on 07/25/2005 6:15:18 PM PDT by Alia
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To: EveningStar

OOoohh.. that be down! LOL!


57 posted on 07/25/2005 6:17:58 PM PDT by Alia
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To: RonDog

Ron, thanks for the ping. I needed a good laught it being monday and all, and reading some of the replys from the fever swamp provided it.
Particularly
Hugh is still just angry that he was forced to admit that Tancredos supporters weren't just a tiny minority.
cripplecreek

Someone should run a poll of conseratives on this subject.


58 posted on 07/25/2005 8:47:27 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: RonDog

"Supporting" Congressman Tancredo on this issue identifies you as an American interested in comforting noise rather than progress in the GWOT.

Well put!

Tancredo speaks Osama smiles


59 posted on 07/25/2005 9:02:45 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: doug from upland; All
I quit calling after Hugh's producer dissed me when I called in and Hugh didn't answer email.

Sorry to hear that, Doug. You're one of my favorite callers. And that doesn't sound like General I. But, we all have our moods and moments... even Hugh and the boys. He goes silent on me for long periods as well. But, I just keep posting

But, to question Hugh's credentials and contributions as is being done here, is ludicrous. Just keep in mind that what Hugh brings to the table, is a sense of level headed strategy. He plays the long game... keep the offense on the field, hold the ball and push it up the field ten yards at a time.

I like Tancredo. But, on this he's just wrong. If you are going to shoot a man, shoot him. But, don't stand around and threaten to do it. And you best have a damn good reason for doing it. But, if you don't intend to shoot him, then dont point the gun at him.

That war is one we want to hold off as long as possible. Bush knew it and has been fighting the smart war for four years. So let's keep fighting it smart and aim our words as carefully as our shots.

60 posted on 07/25/2005 9:18:24 PM PDT by Mr.Atos (http://mysandmen.blogspot.com)
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