Posted on 07/23/2005 1:31:34 PM PDT by Coleus
HARRY POTTER: ENEMY OF GOD By Dr. Bradley Carey (c) 2005, All rights reserved
I am amazed at how many churches get up in arms about Christians participating in Halloween, and yet turn around sell Christmas trees in their church parking lots. It is these same churches that refuse to take a public stand against the legalized murder of unborn children know as abortion and close their eyes to the plague of abomination known as homosexuality that is overtaking the world. Yet when someone speaks out against a fictional character named Harry Potter and the books and movies made around him, many of these same churches will attack the individual who criticizes this diabolical movement. Yes I said diabolical. Now many people will argue that there is nothing wrong with Harry Potter and that it has gotten children to get in and start reading more, and has improved the reading ability of millions around the world. Yet these same people who praise these books and movies are obviously blind or have simply chosen not to see what else is taking places because of Harry Potter and everything associated with him.
Many will argue that Harry Potter is just a fictional character in series of books and movies and that is all. Well that may be true, but it is what this fictional character and the books and movies are doing that must be of concern to everyone.
For example, since the release of the Harry Potterbooks, interest in Wiccan materials, schools, spells, etc., has increased over 200%. (Retail Trends, 2004)
Wicca is now the seventh largest organized religion in the United States. The world-renowned occultist, Oberon Zell-Ravenheart, who is also a master wizard and a practicing witch, has said in his book, "Grimoire for the Apprentice Wizard," that its [his book's] express purpose is to target the growing numbers of Harry Potter readers who have become interested in exploring real Witchcraft. Under "Acclaim for the Author."
In the Harry Potter books many spells are discussed in great detail. According to Wiccans and Wizards, what is discussed in these books accurately portray Wiccan spells and rituals.
In the Bible we find the following concerning the practice of witchcraft, witches, seeking familiar spirits, and many of the other teachings in the Harry Potter books and movies:
"For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft..." 1 Samuel 15:23
"...and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the site of the Lord..." 2 Chronicles 33:6
"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these...witchcraft...that they do not inherit the kingdom of God." Galatians 5:19-21
"There shall not be found among you and one that...useth divination, or an observer of times, of an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee." Deuteronomy 18:10-12 "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to love." Exodus 22:18
"Regard not them with familiar spirits, neither to be defiled by them." Leviticus 19:31
"And the soul that turn after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a-whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people." Leviticus 20:6
According to the Bible, God's own Holy Word, those who practice witchcraft are committing a sin and abomination in God's eyes. Those who seek after those who practice witchcraft, do so against the Word of God. By doing so, God will set His face against them and cut them off.
In the Harry Potter books and movies, both Harry Potter and his friends are students of magic and witchcraft. They do this of their own free will. As such, they have chosen to freely transgress the Word of God. By doing so, they have made themselves enemies of God. Individuals and teachings such as these have no place in the lives of children, especially those who are Christian. Yet, churches and parents still turn a blind eye to this. By doing so they are inviting the judgement and eternal condemnation of God
The question is now this. Is this the type of things that children need to learn and become involved in? Do we want children following after the things that God has pronounced as sin and abomination?
By allowing the Harry Potter books and movies into your home, you are allowing Satan to enter also. By allowing Satan to enter into your home, you are allowing all sorts of problems, including spiritual ones, to enter as well.
The churches and their members who allow their children to participate in the Harry Potter enticement into things that are evil and contrary to the Word ofGod, are no better than those who openly practice witchcraft. You are either for God or against Him. There is no middle ground. By refusing to take a stand, you are putting yourself in league with those who stand against God. So now it comes down to this, where do you stand?
And the people who post/publish these anti Harry Potter rants are enemies of common sense
to paraphrase a quote from one my favorite movies "Self Righteous morons should try reading books before burning them"
Read Deuteronomy Chapter 18: 9-14
9 "When you come into the land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. 10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord, and because of these abominations the Lord your God drives them out from before you. 13 You shall be blameless before the Lord your God. 14 For these nations which you will dispossess listened to soothsayers and diviners; but as for you, the Lord your God has not appointed such for you.
It still didn't say to not read about magic. It says magic is bad but nothing about reading about a Harry Potter type story.
Maybe these people will one day realize Harry Potter is a fictional character (Osama Bin Laden and the ACLU are, sadly, very real) and their attacks on the Potter books while being silent on The Wizard of Oz, The Lord of the Rings and the Chronicles of Narnia only show their willful hypocrisy.
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Absolute RUBBISH!!!!
1. Circle is cast and elements called upon (Earth, Air, Fire, Water)
2. 'Power' is raised by dancing.
3. God and Goddess are called into the circle
4. Magical working done, if any required.
5. Elements dismissed, cirlce closed.
Now then, lets see how many times these are mentioned in Harry Potter...
1. 0
2. 0
3. 0
4. Spells, but not in any way like those in Wicca. One does not shout wingardum leviosa! in a circle.
5. 0
Whoops! Not much of a similarity there, then. Never mind: it's so much easier to read some buffoon's opinion on a book than to read it oneself, eh?
looks like someone missed the point, eh?
Very true. Yes, I'm a conservative Christian (although some of you may doubt that a cradle Episcopalian from a long line of Episcopalians can be conservative or consider themselves Christian), but I do happen to have two friends who are Wiccan High Priestesses. They most certainly do not worship Satan. To say that is to say that the ancient Romans, Greeks, Norse or Celts worshipped Satan. Wiccans are pagans in the same way that the ancients were. They believe in multiple gods, but not in Satan. Of course I think they're misguided, but they're certainly not evil people.
And people who love the books(me for instance) probably won't be changed by a few posts saying that it is bad.
Me neither. I love the HP books, just as I loved the Narnia books. And, for the record, my mother (grew up as a Lutheran but who now attends a conservative Episcopal church) is absolutely hooked on time travel books. Does that make her a Satan worshipper too? I hope someone will let me know soon so I can fill her in next time we talk.
looks like someone missed the point, eh?
Nope, I wasn't arguing with that.
This is what I took issue with:
According to Wiccans and Wizards, what is discussed in these books accurately portray Wiccan spells and rituals.
This is not true. If you think it is, then please post links to comments by bona-fide Wiccans to back it up. A Wiccan ritual in essence operates EXACTLY the way I said it does in post 48.
Please point out parts of any Harry Potter books where a circle is cast, elements called upon, Gods and Goddesses invited in prior to doing a spell. A chapter number will do, you don't need to specify a page. I won't hold my breath, as the number of mentions of Gods and/or Goddesses in Harry Potter is precisely zero.
Ironically, there are more parallels with Wiccan ways of working in C.S Lewis' Narnia series than in Harry Potter.
Marker.
To someone from outside the USA, this discussion here seems quite strange. However, whether you reject or do not reject the Harry Potter fiction on religious grounds, please do so always in giving your reasons and to put the view of others at debate. You may "attack" views that you may not necessarily agree with but there is no need to "attack" the people behind holding such a view.
You can better go against a crocodile like myself. I have a big mouth and some ugly long teeth and I promise to give everyone a big bite who would likes to bite me. For the rest, relax a bit and take it easy - the life we have received from God (including that of crocodiles like me..hehehe) is so wonderful. Greetings and Blessings from across the ocean to everyone here on the board - enemies and friends, crocodiles and non-crocodiles alike.
If anyone can do so, please pass on a fraternal greeting to my US-based relatives, the alligators.
To someone from outside the USA, this discussion here seems quite strange. However, whether you reject or do not reject the Harry Potter fiction on religious grounds, please do so always in giving your reasons and to put the view of others at debate. You may "attack" views that you may not necessarily agree with but there is no need to "attack" the people behind holding such a view.
You can better go against a crocodile like myself. I have a big mouth and some ugly long teeth and I promise to give everyone a big bite who would likes to bite me. For the rest, relax a bit and take it easy - the life we have received from God (including that of crocodiles like me..hehehe) is so wonderful. Greetings and Blessings from across the ocean to everyone here on the board - enemies and friends, crocodiles and non-crocodiles alike.
If anyone can do so, please pass on a fraternal greeting to my US-based relatives, the alligators.
This one major fact seems to be lost on those who want ban the Harry Potter books.
Coleus, Excellent Post!!! and Excellent list in #1
LOL. All true.
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