The DUmmie "William Pitt"

scamdy ^ | July 11, 2005 | the dread adminf

[finnman69]

BOTTOM LINE: NOBODY "KILLED" ANDY. Much less deliberately.

I would propose the possibility that in fact he may have developed an infection at Johns Hopkins or developed an infection as a direct result of the prosedures at that hospital. Perhaps if he had not raised the $ and gone to DC but had stayed in Seattle, he might be well on the way to a full recovery at this point in time.

Just something to consider.....

In any case I feel bad for his family.

[Purrcival]

So are you going to try to go to the service?

[gate2wire]

If you go to the service I hope you go incognito. Dress like a hippie.

[PJ-Comix]

Well, it appears death was caused by a post-operative infection.

I'm thinking HIV might have played a big part. However, because of the laws on this, it probably won't be revealed.

[doug from upland]

Some of us will actually say a quiet prayer for Andy's soul.

[jennyjenny]

Now if we could just get the PunIdiot Pitt to acknowledge this fact, they could stop all of the name calling and innuendo over at the DUmpster and every other moonbat web site.

They won't even acknowledge that benign growths are not cancerous. Just ask DUer Merh, she'll tell ya they are either benign cancerous growths, or malignant cancerous growths. They won't acknowledge that DUer bettyellen said it wasn't pancreatic cancer at all.

I am afraid it is hopeless.

[PJ-Comix]

Oh, don't get me wrong, if you listen to Will Pitt, he's going to personally beat up everyone on these threads boy howdy conveniently forgetting that he was the one who raised the red flag.

Pitt himself admitted that he got beat on quite a bit in high school. This plays a part in his insecurity and his threats to beat up others. He is trying to compensate for his memories of high school when he got his ass kicked on a regular basis.

[franksolich]

You know, in a lot of ways DUmmieland does resemble a high school for middle-aged kids.

There's all sorts of groups and cliques over there.

And right now, the Andyites are the "cool crowd," and you have people like "William Pitt" and the dirty one trying very hard, desperately hard, to be accepted into that "cool crowd."

The tragedy of it all is, that while they may be used by the "cool crowd," they'll never get accepted into it.

[PJ-Comix]

Every single thread on this site has wished for and prayed for Andy's good health in this.

In the week leading up to Andy's death, Charles Henrickson CONSISTENTLY wished the best for Andy. This in SHARP contrast to grandstander Pitt who never said a word of encourangement to Andy during the same period EXCEPT for a very brief "Get Well" message on the Andy "Get Well" thread. And this was only AFTER it was noted in the DUFUs how Pitt was giving the cold shoulder to Andy.

[gate2wire]

"Pitt himself admitted that he got beat on quite a bit in high school. This plays a part in his insecurity and his threats to beat up others. He is trying to compensate for his memories of high school when he got his ass kicked on a regular basis."

I don't doubt this for a second. Also would bet that benburch and goodboy have similar issues. Would explain a lot of the anger before andy's demise.

[Jack of all Trades]

OK, so I read the letter to the FBI. The only fact I didn’t really have at hand was Stephenson’s association to BBV.

At best improper fund raising on the order of $50K, by a vote fraud huckster, a loony liberal bile spewer, and the owner of a moonbat hangout website. At worst fraud and theft. The money was given by true believers who would have pawned their last bongs and Birks to get the money to give to Stephenson. IMHO It wouldn’t have mattered if Stephenson had died (*) by being run over by a truck. These people have a vested interest in not being shown the light if that means painting themselves as bigger fools.

As far as fraud goes, 50K is chicken feed. More people have been taken for far more money since this thread opened this morning. In principal, it’s always good to expose criminal actions. In practice, though, continuing to highlight this case will strike the passing and semi-interested readers as ghoulish and single-minded.

Perhaps “shill” and “piss off” were uncalled for on my part. Perhaps not. This does seem like a manufactured issue to me. One that paints conservatives and FR in a bad light.

[Allosaurs_r_us]

This in SHARP contrast to grandstander Pitt who never said a word of encouragement to Andy during the same period

 

Me thinks perhaps Pitt is feeling a little ashamed of himself. I think someone has posted that PunIdiot is now backing off of the threats and going about business as usual.

 

This makes me believe his rant earlier was for the benefit of his faithful followers so he could save some face. I myself would welcome Mr. Pitt to post anything anywhere, where any of us here at FR has indicated anything other than a wish for him to recover. After all how in the world is he supposed to come clean on his fundraising efforts if he is no longer with us.

 

Those are the facts, and I am quite sure there are a number of Andyites who know this to be true. They will never accept the cold hard facts that anyone actually wishing Andy harm most likely came from their own ranks.

 

I am also quite sure everyone here has a clear conscience over Andy's downturn. Not one of us has anything to apologize for, or be ashamed of.  The Dummies on the other hand need to look inward.

[Purrcival]

Hey, check this out. Looks like they are following Andy's request to "politicize my plight" - make his illness & death into a plea for universal health care. See this flash memorial by DU's & TakeBackTheMedia's Michael Stinson (aka "symbolman"):

http://web.takebackthemedia.com/geeklog/public_html/staticpages/index.php?page=20050710095608538

[beandog]

You are 100% correct. Pitt is just trying to ease his own conscience by placing the blame on others.We still have no idea what the truth really is.

[KJC1]

This does seem like a manufactured issue to me.

So you admit it looks "at best improper" and at worst like "fraud and theft", then you say WE manufactured the issue? Which one is it?

If you can answer just one question you will reveal your depth of knowledge or lack thereof: Why was the May 10 surgery cancelled? This is an important question, and those of us who have been following this know why and we already know the answer(s).

[Allosaurs_r_us]

As far as fraud goes, 50K is chicken feed.

 

Yep! 50 grand is pretty much chicken feed, if that were all it was I doubt so many of us would have jumped on this bandwagon.

 

If you also add into the $700,000+ that Sir Andy and Ms. Harris also raised from many of the same people, we are approaching the $1 million dollar mark. Andy started soliciting donations back in Dec of 2004 claiming he was being stiffed by BBV. Later we find out he had a check for over $4,000 that he evidently was refusing to cash due to his arguments with Ms. Harris.

 

Andy has been a professional fund raiser for as long as I have ever heard of him. His web site he put up for running for state office in WA is still accepting donations, even though he dropped out of the race 2 years ago. Of course this is most likely just pure laziness from whoever manages his site, but having donations go directly to your personal PO box throughout all of these fund raisers makes it impossible for anyone to ascertain how much cash is being collected. The only records they are putting forth are from people emailing them to let them know how much the sent and that id only from April 28th. What about previously?

 

At last count there were almost 200 web sites, Radio programs and periodicals fund raising for the JH surgery. If you believe they only collected 50 grand, I got a rock garden out behind the ranch I'd like to sell ya.

 

 

[gate2wire]

Could not watch the whole thing, started out ok, though a little tacky, then got pretty sick.
Thanks for posting that. Everyone should try to watch.

[gate2wire]

"At last count there were almost 200 web sites, Radio programs and periodicals fund raising for the JH surgery. If you believe they only collected 50 grand, I got a rock garden out behind the ranch I'd like to sell ya."

Right, If I remember correctly, $50K is all from the DUmmies. I don't recall seeing any other totals.

[Charles Henrickson]

As far as fraud goes, 50K is chicken feed.

Part of the problem all along has been, nobody has any idea exactly how much has been raised! The $56,000+ is only what sfexpat2000 reported on the basis of DUers who bothered to e-mail her with their amounts. That doesn't take into account the DUers who didn't get around to e-mailing her, nor does it take into account all the other moneys that came in from all the other sources--well over 100 websites and organizations carried the appeal.

One of the huge red flags from the get-go was that the money was sent directly to Andy, instead of to a designated trust fund or account at a bank or hospital, which is the way most fundraisers of this type are quickly and easily set up. There was no accountability for the funds raised and spent--this, from the King of Verifiability.

I'm not saying they were corrupt. I am saying that the whole situation was at least mishandled and thus wide open to the appearance of impropriety.

In practice, though, continuing to highlight this case will strike the passing and semi-interested readers as ghoulish and single-minded.

And I was willing to let it rest--until Pitt and others made these wild, hate-filled accusations and threats. It is ludicrous to suggest that any of us here deliberately wanted to cause physical harm to Andy. And it is irresponsible of Pitt to whip up his fellow DUers to hate and want to do harm to those who raised legitimate questions. That is what has been going on intensely since Friday.

[KJC1]

It is ludicrous to suggest that any of us here deliberately wanted to cause physical harm to Andy. And it is irresponsible of Pitt to whip up his fellow DUers to hate and want to do harm to those who raised legitimate questions. That is what has been going on intensely since Friday.

To know that would require paying attention, though. Not everyone here has paid attention, lol.