Posted on 06/21/2005 3:17:05 AM PDT by Mia T
June 20, 2005, 7:54 a.m.
TThe Clintons will always make headlines -- for both their larger-than-life aspects and the simple facts of presidential history (and future presidential history?). The prospect of the former First Lady and current junior-but-star senator Hillary Clinton running for and (sit down) possibly becoming president has in part meant a little bit of a publishing bonanza of Hillary books. Among the most talked about -- if not the most talked about -- is one coming out this Tuesday: The Truth About Hillary: What She Knew, When She Knew It, and How Far She'll Got to Become President by Edward Klein, published by Penguin's conservative imprint, Sentinel.
About "the most fascinating woman in America" as Klein puts it in an interview with National Review Online, The Truth About Hillary Clinton has already been in the news with lurid headlines. Is it sex, lies and footnotes, this time without the necessity factor -- details uncovered about Bill Clinton's sexual behavior as it related to abuse of power during a federal criminal investigation?
NRO editor Kathryn Lopez asked Edward Klein -- former New York Times Magazine editor-in-chief -- about this and more. In an exclusive interview -- the first of The Truth About Hillary Clinton, Klein explains and defends his book, and gives his read on where Hillary Clinton has been and where she is going.
National Review Online: In a sentence, what is "the truth about Hillary"?
Edward Klein:Hillary is not a victim (not of sexism, not of her husband, and certainly not of this book); she's not a moderate (despite her effort to re-brand herself in the Senate). Even my sources on the left admit she's positioning herself as a victim and moderate in order to win the White House.
NRO: Matt Drudge has highlighted the "rape" claim in your book. Which, to be upfront here, I thought was a terrible story to be highlighting, about a child and her parents. Why on earth would you put such a terrible story in your book? -- that looks to be flimsily sourced at that. But even if it wasn't -- why tell it?
Klein: Let's set the record straight here. Actually, I don't make that claim in the book. I included the story about their 1979 trip to Bermuda because Hillary herself brings it up and spins it in her own book as an example of their supposedly romantic marriage. The point of the story is that my source, who was with the Clintons in Bermuda and quoted Bill's boastful remarks to me, was stunned when Bill phoned him a few months later and told him he just learned of Hillary's pregnancy by reading about it in the newspaper! Those who read the book will see this is hardly a ìrape storyî -- rather it's yet another example of a bizarre political union where a pregnancy is leaked to the largest newspaper in the state and treated as political gain rather than shared privately as a couple.
NRO: You do relay Bill Clinton claiming he was going off to rape his wife, however -- and then a morning-after report that suggests that might, in fact, have happened. Surely you see how that would become the "rape chapter" of the book -- and maybe the most obvious headline from the book? Might it have been more trouble than it was worth simply to relay that the Clintons have a "bizarre" relationship? Surely there are more polite examples.
Klein: Here's why it's not a rape claim: I don't imply the source was in the room with the Clintons, for all my source knows they could have had a massive fight and then reconciled. My source doesn't speculate, I don't speculate. This whole story, "the rape story" as it's being called by others, speaks more to how the Clintons communicate, their bizarre relationship. And, of course, the whole point of the story is how she leaked her pregnancy to the press -- didn't talk about it with her husband first.
NRO: Do you think more is being made out of some of the "dirt" -- the more salacious gossipy stuff in your book -- than should be?
Klein: The Truth About Hillary is a comprehensive biography, encompassing both her personal and political life. Vanity Fair chose to excerpt a part of the book about political life, while other news sources have chosen to focus on the personal. My book is much broader than any representation that has appeared in the media so far.
NRO: How many times do you use the word "lesbian" in your book? Why point out she had friends who were lesbians? Do we need to go there?
Klein: Hillary's politics were shaped by the culture of radical feminism and lesbianism at Wellesley College in the 1960s. This is paramount in exploring the political life of Hillary Clinton.
How could someone write a comprehensive biography of Hillary Clinton without investigating the rumors that have long circulated about her? I've gone further than any other journalist in exploring the question of her sexuality, which is often the first thing people wonder about her: Is she misrepresenting herself as a doting wife to Bill Clinton? How can she stand his chronic infidelity?
As for the number of times the word appears in the book, I don't know. But I'm sure there are some in the Clinton campaign counting right now.
NRO: One more sex thing. You write: "Hillary Clinton only had herself to blame for the talk about her sex life." Can there ever really be a good reason for this, never mind in her case?
Klein: The Clintons themselves made sex an integral part of our national political discourse at the turn of the century. There's no way of getting around sex when it comes to the Clintons.
NRO: Are you nervous putting out a product that seems to be based on a lot of anonymous sources?
Klein: Were Woodward and Bernstein?
Look, no reporter likes to use anonymous sources. But most people are afraid of invoking the wrath of Hillary Clinton, and so they will talk about her only on condition of anonymity.
I interviewed nearly 100 people who know Hillary, including classmates from high school, college, and law school; Democratic activists and party officials; White House support staff, speechwriters, and military aides; Cabinet officers, senators and congressmen; and other intimates of the Clintons.
I have had more than 40 years of experience as a serious journalist dealing with sources, both Left and Right, on and off the record. And while writing The Truth About Hillary, I scrupulously checked all my sources for fairness and accuracy.
NRO: You've got good liberal credentials. Is this book the end of that?
Klein: I have never had an ideological ax to grind. I'm a registered independent -- a reporter who goes where the truth leads me. And I intend to stay that way and let the chips fall where they may.
NRO: Do you believe, as Hillary expressed around impeachment time, that there was a "vast-right-wing conspiracy" out to do her husband in?
Klein: The only conspiracy that existed during impeachment time was Bill and Hillary's attempt to hide the truth.
NRO: Are you now part of some "Republican scream machine"? What was your intention in writing the book?
Klein: I'm a journalist who writes about fascinating people. I spent many years writing about the Kennedys. But the Clintons have eclipsed them in national interest. Right now, Hillary is the most fascinating woman in America.
I don't know if all Republicans will like this book, but I call them as I see them.
NRO: Did you vote for Bill Clinton?
NRO: You're a New Yorker. Did you vote for Hillary for senator? Would you vote for Hillary for president?
Klein: No and no.
I think Elizabeth Moynihan, Senator Moynihan's wife, had it right when she told me that Hillary is ìduplicitous.î Hillary acts as though she is chosen by God, and that gives her the right to use any means to justify her ends.
If she becomes president, it's going to be deja Clinton all over again. And as far as I'm concerned, we've already had the Clinton presidency for its full constitutional eight years.
NRO: Is Sidney Blumenthal still "Hillary's brain"?
Klein: I don't know, but he's still her pit bull attack dog. Blumenthal was the first person to attack my book as soon as Vanity Fair's excerpt appeared.
NRO: A Sentinel spokesman said recently that The Truth about Hillary could be Hillary's Swift Boat Vets. Do you intend that or expect that?
Klein: I intended my book to take a good hard look at Hillary's true character, and if the book is being compared to the Swift Boat Vets' book on that account, then I am proud of the comparison.
NRO: Was the health-care disaster really "the most humiliating defeat of her life"? The impeachment saga wasn't?
Klein: The health-care disaster knocked Hillary out of the box and out of a position of day-to-day power in the White House for nearly four years. It was the biggest defeat in her history.
The impeachment saga was manipulated by Hillary to turn herself into a sympathetic victim, and led directly to her Senate victory. In that sense, the impeachment saga was actually a plus for Hillary.
NRO: Hillary wanted to be an astronaut, you report, but her mother encouraged her to set a more reasonable goal: a seat on the Supreme Court. Could that still be a reasonable goal? Student of Bob Bork -- how ironic that would be. And painful for some of us!
Klein: Hillary has bigger fish to fry. She wants eight more years in the White House.
Should she fail in that ambitious effort, she might ìsettleî for a seat on the Supreme Court -- as long as it was the seat of chief justice.
NRO: Hillary has tried to position herself as a moderate. Is she? How much of the "radical" Wellesley girl is still in her?
Klein: Hillary has been a woman of the ultra-Left ever since she entered Wellesley College 40 years ago this year. She's been consistently anti-military (despite her recent votes), pro-nationalized health care, and pro-abortion without parental consent.
You can take the girl out of Wellesley, but you can't take Wellesley out of the girl.
NRO: Hillary's story about how she and Bill met is "blatantly untrue"? How do you know?
Klein: Because like so many of Hillary's stories, her version (that she walked across the Yale Law School Library and introduced herself to Bill), this story is an example of Hillary making herself more important than she actually is.
NRO: Pat Moynihan's family says your legendary-senator-hated-Hillary story is bogus. What say you?
Klein: I have known Elizabeth Moynihan for 30 years; we first met in New Delhi when Pat Moynihan was ambassador to India.
I spoke with Liz Moynihan and told her I was writing a book about Hillary. Liz agreed to be interviewed by me on the record regarding the Moynihans' meetings and relationship with Hillary.
I have a record of this interview.
NRO: Why should anyone trust or believe your portrait of Hillary Clinton?
Klein: Because it is written by a journalist with impeccable credentials (Newsweek, the New York Times, Vanity Fair, Parade), who has no political agenda.
My previous book, The Kennedy Curse, was also the object of disparagement and vilification -- and it has since become clear that everything I wrote was true.
You may not be able to judge a book by its cover, but you sure can judge a book by the author's track record, and my record is impeccable.
NRO: Why should a fair-minded voter read your book before 2008?
Klein: Because Hillary's 2006 campaign for reelection to the Senate is a dry run for her 2008 campaign for the White House, and the time has come for her opponents to size her up and devise a strategy to stop her.
NRO: Is there any chance she won't run for president, knowing what you know (or claim to know) about her?
Klein: Barring an act of God, Hillary will seek her party's nomination in 2008 for the presidency.
NRO: If she runs, will she have a "woman problem" like she did when she ran for Senate?
Klein: She already has a woman problem. Many women don't like Hillary. They don't think she has earned her place in the sun.
Hillary will try to counter that problem two ways: First, by showing how hard she has worked as a senator, and second, by portraying herself as a victim of sexism.
She will try to keep Bill Clinton in the background.
But don't let her fool you. A vote for Hillary will be a vote for Bill Clinton. As far as the Clintons are concerned, it's still two for the price of one.
NRO: Could she have beaten Rudy for senator? Could she beat him for president?
Klein: Rudy could have beaten Hillary for senator, and he could trounce her for president.
NRO: How is HRC like Nixon?
Klein: Like Nixon, Hillary is paranoid and has an enemies list.
Like Nixon, Hillary has used FBI files against her enemies.
Like Nixon, Hillary believes that the ends justify the means.
Like Nixon, Hillary has a penchant for doing illegal things.
NRO: Would Hillary have had a political future if Kerry won?
Klein: Maybe on the Supreme Court.
NRO: What's the most interesting thing you learned about Hillary while working on your book? The most disturbing?
Klein: That even today, Hillary is aware that Bill Clinton is carrying on sexual affairs with other women, and she doesn't do anything about it.
NRO: Is The Truth About Hillary on bookshelves or under brown paper, behind the cash register?
Klein: The Truth About Hillary will be prominently displayed up front in every major bookstore in America, with its cover proudly facing forward.
COPYRIGHT MIA T 2005
Reprising the role of victim that enabled her to win a senate seat in spite of low poll numbers, high personal negatives and consistent public failures, the senator peppered her answers about big, bad Hugh (understanding that the subtext was big, bad Bill) with "saddened" and "disappointed" and "heartbroken" and "shocked."
KnowNothing's brother, Hugh Rodham, secured two of the 141 clinton midnight pardons, one for a cocaine kingpin and the other for a snake-oil swindler. Rodham netted a quick $400,000 for his "work" according to various rodhams and clintons and their assorted lawyers. KnowNothing's campaign treasurer, William Cunningham III, himself a law partner of longtime KnowNothing adviser Harold Ickes, helped obtain last-minute pardons for two convicted felons.
LA FAMIGLIA
Displaying a willingness to throw her brother (along with her husband) to the wolves, Sen. Victim Clinton was quick to make a distinction between her big, bad brother's pardon "work" and that of her campaign treasurer, "a fine lawyer and a fine man." The "family" connection of brother Rodham to Clinton rendered Rodham's "work" offensive, whereas the campaign treasurer Cunningham's connection to the senator and her campaign coffers made his securing of two pardons in record time a sterling example of highminded, effective public service.
KnowNothing is apparently not the best of thinkers. If the "family" connection makes lobbying for cocaine-kingpin and snake-oil-swindler pardons unsavory for brother Rodham, then the "family" connection makes lobbying for the Hasidim 4 (see Keating 5) pardons even more distasteful for the wife, First Lady and senator-elect. Moreover, pardons for votes is arguably a greater offense than pardons for cash.
EFFECTIVELY PLEADS 5TH BY INVOKING SPOUSAL PRIVILEGE
KnowNothing specifically declined to answer when asked whether she discussed the pardons with her husband, effectively pleading the 5th. Turning aside questions about the pardon decisions her husband had made, she told reporters they should address those issues with him and his staff. She refused to say whether he should agree to appear voluntarily before congressional committees investigating the pardons. Interestingly, no one asked her whether she would agree to appear voluntarily before those same congressional committees.
I DIDN'T HAVE SEX WITH THAT PARDON
"I did not have any involvement in the pardons that were granted or not granted," insisted Sen. KnowNothing, seeming to forget her presence at the New-Square/Oval-Office schmooze that secured pardons for the four Hasidic felons who set up a phony school in Brooklyn to swindle the government out of millions intended for the poor.
RESURRECTING RUFF
KnowNothing noted that her"best memory" was that she never spoke to her brother or to Mr. Cunningham about the pardons. With variations of "I don't have a memory" and "my best memory, and avoiding the more obvious "I don't recall" and "my best recollection," KnowNothing reprised the Ruffian standard used during the clinton years to commit perjury without penalty.
I GET LETTERS
...or more precisely, envelopes. During her denials of involvement in any of the pardons, KnowNothing made the curious claim: "People handed me envelopes, I passed them on [and never opened a single one. Honest.]"
I AM VICTIM
Reprising the role of victim that enabled her to win a senate seat in spite of low poll numbers, high personal negatives and consistent public failures, the senator peppered her answers about big, bad Hugh (understanding that the subtext was big, bad Bill) with "saddened" and "disappointed" and "heartbroken" and "shocked."
UTTER CONTEMPT FOR THE PEOPLE
This session today was cut short by a staffer when reporters appeared dissatisfied by Senator KnowNothing's lack of candor.
In the end, this press conference full of poses, poll-tested phrases and prevarication was just another display of the clintons' utter contempt for the people. Bill Clinton committed the same error last Sunday in his shameless, lie-filled New York Times Pardongate Apologia.
The clintons' fundamental error: They are too arrogant and dim-witted to understand that the demagogic process in this fiberoptic age isn't about counting spun heads; it's about not discounting circumambient brains.
COPYRIGHT MIA T 2001
[FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU! FOOL ME TWICE, SHAME ON ME!]
differential reaction to the two rape charges snares the clintons
"the smartest woman in the world" sought less competitive venue
(clinton, pushed by the "smartest woman in the world," managed to impeach himself)
The Truth About Hillary
An author tells his story.
Klein: No.
One of Bill Clinton's law-school classmates told me that it was Bill who made the first move. Bill arranged to meet Hillary, not the other way around.
EFFECTIVELY PLEADS 5TH BY INVOKING SPOUSAL PRIVILEGE
by Mia T, February 23, 2001
ASHINGTON - February 22. Sen. KnowNothing Victim Clinton held her premiere press conference today on Capitol Hill, ostensibly to answer questions about the peddling of White House pardons by her brother and her campaign treasurer. Notably absent among the press queries were any about her own involvement not only in those pardons, but in the larger universe of sold pardons--the incipient clinton scandal du jour--Pardongate.
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In a novel twist of logic and reality during the First Rapist's impeachment trial, the co-rapist portrayed the endless string of clinton rapes as significant clinton public policy, euphemistically dubbing chronic clinton predation "ministering to troubled young girls."
Mia T, First Rapist's Rose-Garden Escape: The Full Story
hillary clinton
"I could hardly breathe. Gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, 'What do you mean? What are you saying? Why did you lie to me?' I was furious and getting more so by the second. He just stood there saying over and over again, 'I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I was trying to protect you and Chelsea."..."I was dumbfounded, heartbroken and outraged that I'd believed him at all."...The family went to Martha's Vineyard for vacation right after his testimony...."Buddy, the dog, came along to keep Bill company. He was the only member of our family who was still willing to."
hear hillary clinton The rape took place while Bill was running for governor. Hillary came bursting into the room to talk to two people, one of whom I personally know.
She said "You won't believe what this [expletive] did now. He tried to rape some b*tch."
doug from upland to Sean Hannity,
There is reason to believe that he is a rapist ("You better get some ice on that," Juanita Broaddrick says he told her concerning her bit lip), and that he bombed a country to distract attention from legal difficulties arising from his glandular life, and that. ... Furthermore, the bargain that he and his wife call a marriage refutes the axiom that opposites attract. Rather, she, as much as he, perhaps even more so, incarnates Clintonism
GEORGE WILL, SLEAZE, THE SEQUEL
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Living History
published by the clintons' personal agitprop-and-money-laundering machine,
Simon & Schuster
WABC, 10/16/00
EPILOGUE: (ADDITIONAL AUDIO)
Hear Christopher Shays:
"The bottom line: HE DID RAPE BROADDRICK."
thanx to Wolverine for the audio
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hillary talks: ON VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN
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hillary talks: ON STANDING BY MY MAN
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hillary talks: On White House "ministering"
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hillary talks: ON PREDATORS
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When Alex kills a woman during a rape, Alex is sent to prison.
A risible and repulsive result;
While Alex is conditioned in prison with aversion therapy,
In the end,
We will have set apart clinton as the hero
Mia T, A CLOCKWORK ORANGE |
COPYRIGHT MIA T 2005 |
COPYRIGHT MIA T 2005
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1st Feminist Prez Impeached
(clinton, pushed by the "smartest woman in the world," managed to impeach himself)
Q ERTY8
by Mia T, 1.06.02
The Placebo President:
To wit: A proven felon and utter reprobate can remain president; clinton can be a failed human being but a good president.
The error in these statements arises, says Steele, from the belief that virtuousness is separate from personal responsibility so that one's virtuousness as an individual is determined by one's political positions on issues rather than on whether or not in one's personal life there is a consistency and a responsibility.
Steele's contention is that this compartmentalization, rather than being the amazing advantage the clintons would have us believe, in fact, spills toxicity into, corrupts, the culture.
If mere identification with good policies is what makes one virtuous then those policies become, what Steele calls, iconographic, that is to say they just represent virtuousness. They don't necessarily do virtuous things.
If clinton's semantic parsing strips meaning from our words, clinton's iconographic policies strip meaning from our society, systematically deconstructing our society as a democracy. . .
I would take Shelby Steele's thesis one step further. I maintain that iconographic policy functions like a placebo, producing a real, physiological and social effects.
The placebo effect is, after all, the brain's triumph over reality. Expectation alone can produce powerful physiological results. The placebo effect was, at one time, an evolutionary advantage: act now, think later
bill clinton is the paradigmatic Placebo President. Placebo is Latin for "I shall please." And please he does doling out sham treatments, iconographs, with abandon. To please, to placate, to numb, to deflect. Ultimately to showcase his imagined virtue. Or to confute his genuine vice.
clinton will dispense sugar pills (or bombs) at the drop of a high-heeled shoe... or at the hint of high treason...
clinton's charlatanry mimics that of primitive medicine. Through the 1940s, doctors had little effective medicine to offer so they deliberately attempted to induce the placebo response.
The efficaciousness of today's medicines does not diminish the power of the placebo. A recent review of placebo-controlled studies found that placebos and genuine treatments are often equally effective. If you expect to get better, you will.
Which brings me back to the original question: Can clinton be a failed human being but a good president?
Clearly he cannot. These two propositions are mutually exclusive. clinton's fundamental failure is a complete lack of integrity. He has violated his covenant with the American people.
Because clinton has destroyed his moral authority as a leader, he can no longer function even as a quack; the placebo effect is gone.
And so the Placebo President must now go, too.
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"Free Republic is one of those groups obsessed with the Clinton era."
Word's out: Protest at Hillary's tonight
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And your head is in the right place, ..... that adds to the charm........ as my interior decorator always likes to say!
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This quote may want to be included in your excellent material somewhere someday:
"I think for me, the sickest and scariest kind of rage is the Hillary Clinton kind of rage. You know, the perpetual permafrost smile she wears that's hiding a well of fury deeper than Barry White's voice during a bout of pneumonia." -- Dennis Miller
Mia, please be well.
Thanks for the ping
(good morning)
bttt
<< .... ".... [Cli'ton] is one of the crudest [Persons] I have ever encountered in government service," says one female agent. "He has no respect for women." >>
Sexism blinds.
The co-serial-rapist Cli'tons' lack of respect reaches across every genus, species, class and group.
Even to dogs.
way to go mia!
an amazon.com review, too
counter the clintonoids, keep it readily visible
FReep rating of review HERE
(NB: review listed twice. rate BOTH. Thanx!)
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