U.S. Military Report: The High Death Rates Exposed (?????)

TBR News ^ | June 12, 2005 | Brian Herring

[lugsoul]

Okay - this is obviously pretty wacky. But it does raise an interesting question about the reporting of deaths, since the announcements usually track the news stories reporting deaths on the ground. Is it true that DoD is not including the death of those evacuated with injuries in the total count? If this is not true, it needs to be debunked.

Any evidence on the topic would be helpful - including correlation of names on the official list with soldiers, sailors, or marines who have died in Germany or elsewhere.

[ruiner]

I doubt its true, but so help me God if it is . . .

Alas, I'm not going to give it a second thought until I get more proof!

[econ_grad]

Soldiers die in war. Why do you think it makes such a big difference between 1700 or 1791? Are you suggesting there is a conspiracy to underreport only 5% of the fatalities?

[milbuf]

It is not true. Every Death is reported, even those who die in the hospital, which have been very few.I have a friend who works in the ICU at Lundstrum and they do a wonderful job of keeping our guys alive and able to recover.

[xrp]

This is an obvious anti-Bush website. Just so ya know.

[Question Liberal Authority]

I'd think it would be pretty odd if Ted Koppel was reading the names of every single American killed in Iraq and there were like 14,000 parents who didn't hear their kids name.

[JeeperFreeper]

It's not true. I've a son in Ramadi. I follow DOD list religiously. Those that die of wounds later are reported.
Nor did Bush order the casket pictures to be kept secret. That happened years before. And I am no Bush fan.

[Right_at_RiceU]

Liberal propaganda. Ignore it.

[DHerion]

...This means that of the 158,000 U.S. military shipped to Iraq, 26,000 either deserted, were killed or seriously wounded. The DoD lists currently being very quietly circulated indicate almost 9,000 dead, over 16,000 seriously wounded* (See note below. This figure is now over 24,000 Ed) and a large number of suicides, forced hospitalization for ongoing drug usage and sales, murder of Iraqi civilians ...

This is crap.

[TomasUSMC]

I wouldn't be surprised if the total dead is higher. And the seriously wounded is in the thousands..... we are stupid if we expect to replay vietnam exactly and are waiting for victory.

If you want victory you have to fight like WW2. We are Naming this thing.

There is NO reason we should allow Syria to kill our troops without even lifting a finger - DO YOU HEAR ME mR. BUSH!

[robowombat]

Anti-Bush that is putting it mildly. It appears to be some sort of screwball pro-Nazi revisionist, moral equivalence site.

[andyk]

U.S. Military Personnel who died in German hospitals or en route to German hospitals have not previously been counted. They total about 6,210 as of 1 January, 2005.

This is the claim they're trying to make.

[lugsoul]

I don't think that's what his numbers say, though that seems to be what the headline says. Looks more like he is saying it isn't 1700, or 1791, but 7000.

That being said, if medevacs aren't included in the total, that would likely be more than 90 or so. We've had several thousand medevac'd from Iraq, and one could assume they are the serious cases. I doubt the fatality rate would be that low.

[untenured]

Iraqi civilian casualties are never reported but International Red Cross, Red Crescent and UN figures indicate that as of 1 January 2005, the numbers are just under 100,000.

That's not true (if "casualties" means "deaths"), so presumably the rest is equally dubious.

[thag]

The Army is not organized enough to keep this many deaths secret for this long. This is not a true statistic. We've lost the better part of 2,000 young men and women and we should not lose sight of that, but as you say, this is an anti-Bush website and appears to have little regard for the truth.

Thag

[jveritas]

Where did you get this dumb story?

[Coop]

* OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM includes casualties that occurred on or after March 19, 2003 in the Arabian Sea, Bahrain, Gulf of Aden, Gulf of Oman, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Persian Gulf, Qatar, Red Sea, Saudi Arabia, and United Arab Emirates

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

[jveritas]

Moderator please pull out this lie.

[xrp]

Yeah, I just looked over it in more detail and it is clear that it is anti-Christian, anti-Bush, anti-conservative and anti-American.

[econ_grad]

Only read the headline. Stand corrected.