Posted on 05/13/2005 7:36:25 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
It looks like William Rivers (Pied Piper) Pitt is doing a lot of worrying that the scam perpetrated by Andy Stephenson is going to explode in his face. Pity Poor Pathetic Pied Piper Pitt (had to get in at least one allitertation) for he hasn’t slept since April as you can see in this Pitt authored DUmmie THREAD titled, “I could use a little help here.” Yeah, Pitt, you could actually use a LOT of help WHEN the AndyScam blows up in such a way that even the incredibly gullible DUmmies realize that Andy Stephenson has been scamming them just as cold-bloodedly as his former mentor, Bev Harris. A constant theme right now in DUmmieland is that they just KNOW that Andy is on the up and up BECAUSE Pied Piper Pitt told them so. I hate to tell you this DUmmies but Pied Piper Pitt has ALSO been having doubts about the DUmmies as have been documented in the Free Republic discussion forum of the previous DUFU edition titled, “’About the Andy Stephenson situation’---Skinner.” Oh, and speaking of Skinner, haven’t the DUmmies noticed that he has been MIA since issuing his doubts about Stephenson a few days ago? Skinner is less than an hour from Baltimore but he has yet to make the short trip over there to verify Andy’s fraudulent story. It is “The Silence of the Scams.” So let us now join Pied Piper Pitt in his state of complete sleeplessness. Somehow I think Pitt will be greeting the sun for many, many mornings to come. As usual the insomniac rantings of Pitt and his DUmmie followers are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, who enjoyed a refreshing night of deep sleep, is in the [brackets]:
I could use a little help here
[You sure do, Pied Piper Pitt, especially after the DUmmies form a lynch mob to go after you when even those dopes realize FOR SURE that they have been scammed by Andy Stephenson, thanks in large part to you vouching for Andy’s honesty.]
I haven't been able to sleep for about two weeks. I start to drop off, and maybe actually sleep for about 20 minutes, before popping awake. Last night, for about the fifteenth day in a row, I saw the sun come up against my will. This has started to affect my stomach, which makes sleeping harder. I have tried exercise to wear myself out, and have managed to badly strain a muscle in my back.
[Your back will hurt even more after the DUmmies start angrily beating on it while cursing you for enabling the AndyScam.]
So, to recap: No sleep since April, rotten stomach, torn up back. I've reached that insomnia point where I am psyching myself out; I got no sleep the night before last, spent yesterday writing a PDA action alert and a 30-minute speech transcript, drove two hours to do the speech, gave the speech, did a three-hour Q&A, talked to people for another hour, drove two more hours to get home, and by the time I got back here I was literally quivering with exhaustion.
[So, to recap: You are worried sick about what will happen to you after Andy Stephenson is proven to be a complete FRAUD even to the satisfaction of the incredibly gullible DUmmie suckers.]
But I laid awake until 6:37am (I remember looking at the clock), popped awake an 8, 9, 10 before finally giving up and getting up at 11. I can barely see straight right now, my stomach feels like it has snakes in it, my back is killing me so I can't exercise...and I know for a stone fact that I won't be able to sleep again. Tried a nap an hour or so ago. Came thiiiiiiiis close to dropping of and then popped awake.
[3:11 AM: “Worried sick about the backlash when Andy’s scam is finally proven.”
3:12 AM: “Will they toss me out of Dummieland?”
3:13 AM: “Will my speaking engagements be cancelled?”
3:14 AM: “Maybe I could change my identity.”
3:15 AM: “DAMN YOU TO HELL, Andy, for suckering me into being your lousy cheerleader!!!”
3:16 AM: “Is it 3:17 AM yet?”]
Any ideas? I've already heard about taking mela-whatever, but that stuff gave my mother splitting headaches when she tried it. I have drastically cut back on caffiene. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. I've reached that violently, violently, violently frustrated stage of insomnia where sleep is a guaranteed impossibility, and if a routine like yesterday's (while on no sleep) can't get it done, I am at a total loss.
[Confession is good for the soul. And now let us read the hilarious advice on insomnia cures from your fellow DUmmies, Pitt.]
scotch. start about 3pm. you'll be out by 9
[Thunderbird. Start about 3 PM. You’ll be homeless by 9.]
Tried it. I managed to make myself unconscious, but that isn't sleep. Woke up worse off the next day. Tried it again a few days later, and all that happened was I was drunk and wide awake.
[Pied Piper Pitt---The wide awake drunk. That’s what happens when you fall such obvious scams that Andy perpetrates.]
sex?
[Unfortunately Andy can no longer be located.]
Move the clock...for one thing. Looking at that thing with the blinking : all night can be horrifying.
[If Pitt moves his clock all it will mean is that he will have to keep walking over to it every 5 minutes to check to see if he got at least a half hour of sleep.]
yes, sex works remember, only in fundie land is a monogamous partner of the opposite gender who desires to become pregnant is a requirement for "sex."
[Only in DUmmieland does it not matter what gender or species your sex partner is.]
Will: see a doctor. Insomnia is a bitch, although I only get it maybe once or twice a month.
[Pitt needs to see a shrink doctor. See Pitt lying on the shrink’s couch? Let us see what the shrink is writing on his note pad: “Just plain NUTS!!!”]
This sounds like a case for sleeping pills though I ordinarily wouldn't recommend them.
[NOT a good idea. Pitt would be tempted to swallow the whole bottle after the AndyScam blows up in DUmmieland.]
Benadryl. But don't take it every night, as you can become addicted (as per my physician husband).
[Methinks Pitt would become addicted the first night after desperately popping pill after pill of those Benny’s.]
Eat lots of turkey! Turkey has natural sleep inducers in it.
[And if that doesn’t work, have someone take a frozen turkey and slam it on Pitt’s head to knock him out.]
My problem is that I have bad physical reactions to anti-histamine stuff. I had raging bad allergies as a kid, and was always loaded up on the stuff. After a few years it just messed me up, and still does whenever I touch it.
[I can sympathize, Pitt. I’m allergic to wool so I’ve had to cross sheep off my date list. Such are the sacrifices I’ve had to make.]
Tonight I will do turkey, warm milk and the tub
[You’re going to do turkey in a tub filled with warm milk, Pitt? You really ARE kinky!]
Yes - I like Tylenol PM myself.
[I once tried to commit suicide by taking a cyanide pill. Unfortunately some sick bastard tampered with the cyanide pill bottle and I took a Tylenol that he inserted instead. I’m suing!!!]
empty your mind, grasshopper...
[…be just like your fellow DUmmies, cricket…]
I don't really know any tricks to get to sleep but one thing I discovered is that it makes no sense to just lay there willing yourself to do it - the more you try, the less likely it is that it will happen. So when I couldn't sleep, I'd get up. I'd tidy the house, I'd do laundry, I'd go for a walk, I'd read, I'd write, I'd work. Eventually, I'd get very, very tired and I'd lay down again. If I didn't get to sleep within a reasonable time, I'd get up again.
[Good idea… Hey Pitt! My pad needs cleaning and after that you can do my laundry.]
stop doing crystal meth that's what I had to do.
[speed_addiction…is that you?]
The back thing is my own fault. I've been beating the shit out of myself on my weight bench, way overdoing it to try and get sleepy. A muscle in my shoulderblade area finally got tired of it and told me to f*ck myself.
[And after the AndyScam scandal explodes, Pitt, your fellow DUmmies will be telling you the same thing as your shoulderblade muscle told you.]
Definitely see a doctor...there might be a physiological reason you're having trouble sleeping.
[Pitt’s problem is ALL mental.]
Will, I'm not a doctor, but I am going to go ahead and give you medical advice anyway. Your body is telling you to take a break.
[Yes, good advice. Take a break, Pitt, on a Costa Rica getaway with Andy Stephenson. Don’t worry about expenses. Andy has $50,000 to blow.]
Otherwise, until you see an internist, a bit of turkey, milk and a warm bath. Then find something boring, yet educational, to read.
[Maybe not educational but Pitt’s own writings should do the trick.]
A friend of mine who went through a divorce said she would drop her jaw down as you would right before you fall asleep and then force herself to COUNT SHEEP. It actually worked for her.
[It won’t work for me. I told you before that I’m allergic to wool.]
One word solution... PAMPER!
[One word solution… PAMPERS!]
White noise (I have a CD of very, very faint/distand thunderstorms and rain, and it's coma-inducing).
[White noise (I have a CD of very, very faint Pitt speeches, and it’s coma-inducing).]
Breathe thru your eyes ... Bull Durham
[Breath thru your butt … Andy Stephenson.]
Watch some mindless TV.
[Keith Olbermann.]
Ambien is habit forming and every person is different. So telling someone to ignore legitimate and documented side effects and product warnings is not particularly sound advice, wouldn't you agree?
[WARNING: Side effects of Ambien may inlude nausea, diarrhea attacks, dizziness, urges to support left wing loony causes, and the total loss of any ability to discern obvious scams.]
dude...seriously...smoke up. If I need to be asleep, pot is my friend to a nice, happy, and deep sleep.
[“Puff the magic dragon down by the sea!”]
First of all, sleep is over-rated.
[Sleep? Who needs it!]
You need to start "shutting down" very gradually.
[After the DUmmies finally wake up to the AndyScam, they will be “shutting down” Pitt very rapidly.]
Try to figure out what caused this abnormal sleep cycle to begin in the first place and address that issue.
[I don’t believe that Pitt thinking about how he has become Andy Stephenson’s lead cheerleader in Dummieland is going to help him get any sleep.]
Go To An Acupuncturist ASAP.
[Perhaps the acupuncturist can anesthetize those brain cells containing all memories about Andy.]
want something natural? try acupuncture- & I know where to get it cheap in the south end
[I don’t know about Pitt but Andy certainly would love to be acupunctured in the south end.]
You really should go to a doctor for a sleep evaluation. This may include keeping a diary for a week or so…
[May 13: “WHAT? WHAT? WHAT will I do when the DUmmies rise up against me when the AndyScam breaks?
May 15: “Need to leave the country. PRONTO!”
May 16: “Quick flight down to Costa Rica.”
May 20: “Slight gender preference modification but the honeymoon with Andy is just dreamy!”]
Cancel your appointments. Don't listen to TV or radio. Turn off your cell phone. Rent some funny movies.
[Flim Flam Man. The Sting.]
http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6400&page=21&pp=20
'principal' definitely is just an enabler trying to slow the 'discovery' process down.
Looks like you guys have this thing in the bag, or at least, are about to start the 'clean-up'! Tell the rest of them 'Great job' for me since I don't have a user account there!
" I didn't want to rain on anyone's parade by finding out that the checks were actually not forgeries..."
The point here is not necessarily to nail somebody. The point is to figure out what the truth is, and let the chips fall where they may.
That's it exactly.
No matter what there is something severely not right here.
Either (1) It's all a scam (2) it's a partial scam and Andy is not nearly as sick as he's pretending and he's just lazy or (3) they've drawn in close to 100,000K and plan to keep returning to the well underreporting- it's still a scam of SOME type.
And the spinman that is Principle just seems a bit too desperate to disprove that on a site that caters to conservatives which in large didn't donate to Andy- to mine eyes there can be only reason- to keep the DUmmies from thinking for themselves.
We love ya, Speedy!
Just beautiful! ^_~
Let see if I can find it.
For someone who knows the EXACT truth in a way that apparently only a small handful do- you are grossly incapable of answering any kind of in-depth questions. You present like a well-trained PR man- sticking only to your script and carefully avoiding anything that might lead you away from that. The point of such is to cut down on the chances of exposing gaping holes but times have changed and people are as gulliable as they once were. They see what aversion and diversion are and in this case- your case- they are simply meant to keep people from digging too deep.You've never answered why you're here. The chances that a large amount of the donations would have come from this site are very remote. Some, sure but the majority came from the cess pool you hail from. Why waste time trying to convince us- what do we matter to you?
Chances are- we don't a bit. This isn't about us. It never was. I'm sure you're enjoying getting slapped around like a punk but in the end this is about two things (1) Making sure the donators keep sending money and (2) playing the omnipresent victim role of the guy who just wanted to be heard and was treated so awfully.
From moment one you've been shady-unwilling to admit who you are in this whole even though you are definately a "principle" player which makes your motives beyond suspect. You're not looking for actual debate but rather to pass along "information" to your zombie friends.
Your motives are clear. It is what it is.
And Andy is still what he is.
A lazy lying scheming thieving bastard who is stealing from adults with the combined intellectual capacity of a two year old.
Just sad.
Yes, my kids are 2 (almost) & 3. I can't imagine having to care for a child with autism. I can barely handle the two quite healthy ones I have. I was just lamenting my inabilites as a mom a few moments ago to my husband. But, it's probably because I'm spending too much time on here that it's so difficult!
And thank you, I now have a new drink to try out (if I can find it). I hate the taste of coffee, but rely on it for the caffeine (my son needs next to NO SLEEP and is extremely active/ needs productive activities at all times).
That probably won't work though, since we'll just send the viking ki-....no, I take that back, send it over if it dares!! ^o^
I think you're right. I think of Undie as a on-line Mohammed Ali (except a really BAD kind)-- he's got people looking at his "buzzing" right fist that's clenched up & spinning around, ready to hit-- meanwhile he's preparing to knock everyone out with his left hook.
The analogy being that he's distracting people with the cashier's checks & their validity, when the actual issue is the dollar amount he actually raised (or the fact as to whether or not he had cancer or was sick at all) versus the amount he spends on "tests" (I'm voting there will be NO surgery-- I'm in the "miracle cure" camp).
Bingo! I'm in total agreement with you on this. ;3
I just posted to IT over there. Why is IT there trying to explain? Why does it even care?
I can't imagine two of 'em just a year apart! Yikes! (I'll never comprehend how parents of twins, triplets, etc. manage.)
I don't think any good parent ever feels completely competent until the kids are grown and gone away. We're always playing catch-up.
As for finding the yerba mate, it is much cheaper if you have a large community of southern-South Americans living nearby. The newfangled coffehouses will charge you an arm and two legs for it.
Oh, and excellent analogy by the way!
That's just it- it's not about us.
Skinner has clamped down on the talk at DU and the silence terrifies them. The silence means less money flows.
If he can go on CU and keep the spin flying AND play the role of the attacked good friend of Andy- the ones who just nod and do what they're told will reach for their checkbooks without furthe question. Makes them good DUers.
"They told me nothing about other inquiries. But it's unlikely that everyone who calls is directed to the same person--it's probably just a call center, so the woman I talked to may not have received any other calls, who knows. (sic)"
Quite true. Who knows? The woman, "a channelle" may not have received any other calls on this matter, and since it's "just a call center" any other Verity Credit Union employees in that department are probably too busy shovelling out confidential information to curious callers with no connection to the financial transaction in question, to flag such calls to the Verity Credit Union supervisor charged with Verity Credit Union's security.
So if there is an investigation into the possible use of the internet in a conspiracy to commit fraud, investigators could avoid the normal channels of going through the courts to obtain the necessary financial documents from the Verity Credit Union and merely pick up the phone and ask for "a channelle."
There will probably be red flags and a few fireworks going off at the Verity Credit Union in Seattle, Washington next week when it is learned that someone in the call center verified two checks, one with the routing number of a non-existent bank, that were taken off an internet site that has been fund-raising for the person who put crude copies of the checks up on the site as evidence of his veracity.
Any investigation that might arise from the Andy Stephenson fund-raiser would include whatever has been posted publicly from whatever source. Verity Credit Union's "a channelle," and any of Verity's employees in the "call center" who may have verified the authenticity of the checks without revealing the name of the person who purchased them, would be of interest, as would anyone publicly declaring the authenticity of the checks, so your sincerity in this matter might convince investigators to "put the 'are the checks fake' to rest so that no one (in this case the investigators)wasted any more of their valuable time on that part."
Their valuable time could then be spent with the owner of the Baltimore Orioles, the "top-notched aspestos lawyer in Baltimore," Doctors Hartmann and Pannu, the Director of Admissions at Johns Hopkins Hospital, and the other people and institutions whose names have been used and abused so recklessly on DU in what might be considered an attempt to further a conspiracy to commit fraud.
That is why franksolich and others on the thread download to secure files the Andyscam threads here and on DU. They have a habit of disappearing sometimes. In questioning Skinner and Pitt the investigators might find a complete record useful.
I am not sure how much latitude the law allows in defining aiding and abetting. I would think it would define culpability by what actions could be expected from reasonable people to protect themselves and others from what might seem like suspicious behavior to most reasonable people.
This may explain Skinner's sleepless nights and Pitt's earnest defense of Andy on CU.
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