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Shiavo case revisited: New Starving Case in Georgia
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Posted on 04/07/2005 6:15:38 AM PDT by tacomonkey2002

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1 posted on 04/07/2005 6:15:41 AM PDT by tacomonkey2002
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To: tacomonkey2002
I wasn't sure how to post this...I found it while cruising my favorite blogs.
I don't know if the news/media will even touch it with a ten foot pole.
And honestly, it looks like another case where the judge has already decided to 'let her die' regardless of the facts...
so I doubt they'll be able to help this poor elderly lady.

I find it is more appropriate to see it as a sad epilogue to Terri Schiavo's tragedy and regarding the many warnings people have been making that her case would open the floodgates of euthanasia in our country.
So it begins.

jmho,
tom
2 posted on 04/07/2005 6:20:38 AM PDT by tacomonkey2002 (a Stranger in a strange world)
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To: tacomonkey2002

Step by step goes the march of Death.


3 posted on 04/07/2005 6:22:02 AM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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To: tacomonkey2002

Can't say I didn't see it coming.


4 posted on 04/07/2005 6:23:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: cripplecreek

I was harassed for weeks for pointing out this obvious continuation of allowing Terri Schiavo to be murdered. Looks like it's open season on the helpless.


5 posted on 04/07/2005 6:27:59 AM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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To: cripplecreek

Coming? These decisions are made every day all across the land and have been for years.

This post leaves several unanswered questions. How old is this lady and if she was conscious how did someone else get this alleged PoA? Morphine will make someone incoherent.

Who but a court can make these decisions legally? How can that be changed?


6 posted on 04/07/2005 6:29:49 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: thoughtomator

And I have been harassed for weeks for pointing out that there are thousands of these cases at any given time across the land and that there was nothing medically unusual in the Schiavo case. Just the legal fight around it.

How can these decisions be made by anyone but families or courts when there is a dispute.


7 posted on 04/07/2005 6:32:30 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: thoughtomator

I don't see an age for this sick woman. But it looks like a granddaughter has the control....Using my daughter as a base, I'd say the sick lady is in her 80's.


8 posted on 04/07/2005 6:35:02 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: tacomonkey2002
I wasn't sure how to post this...

You did just fine.

It is clear that our laws need to be reviewed and revised.

As GWB said, the default choice needs to be life. I also think the decision about who gets to be the guardian needs to be looked at.

9 posted on 04/07/2005 6:37:31 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: Saundra Duffy

pinging...


10 posted on 04/07/2005 6:39:03 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: Ohioan from Florida

pinging you also...


11 posted on 04/07/2005 6:40:31 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: justshutupandtakeit

"...if she was conscious how did someone else get this alleged PoA"


Since when do you only grant a POA by being unconscious? My grandmother granted my mother POA several years before her death (back in the '80s) and she was lucid till the last couple months of her life (strange accident, we'll never really know).

Of course, it's all moot if as the OP claims, this woman didn't really have POA.


12 posted on 04/07/2005 6:44:23 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: tacomonkey2002

I think these things have been happening for a long time. The Schiavo case just brought it into public view. Maybe now there will be more public outcry in favor of other people in the same predicament.


13 posted on 04/07/2005 6:57:14 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: justshutupandtakeit

"... pointing out that there are thousands of these cases at any given time across the land and that there was nothing medically unusual in the Schiavo case. Just the legal fight around it."



Well that's true, and who disputes that? The problem w/the Schindler case was believing a "guardian" on hearsay evidence several years after the fact, who himself was having questionable relations violating marriage covenants. Judgement was bad - or rather not used in that case which led to this whole tragedy.

Never mind the final bad judgement which allowed long, slow starvation.


14 posted on 04/07/2005 6:59:31 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Of course it is common and almost always, if not always, unavoidable. There only result of this absurd and gruesome spectacle will be to further empower the fedgov should it step in and order federal court review of such cases further bankrupting the medical establishment while INCREASING the power of those judges so widely loathed.

Think Ninth Circuit deciding these matters.

And that is the MOST positive potential result.


15 posted on 04/07/2005 7:01:58 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Quick, get a video camera. Apparently, if we actually saw what this "treatment" does to a person, there would not be any more of this starvation and dehydration.


16 posted on 04/07/2005 7:40:03 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ClaireSolt

Nonsense. Nothing can stop most of it. These issues were never even seriously thought about as long as private resources were required to maintain the patient. Only after the pockets of the taxpayer became available or free money from the insurance companies were the enormous costs of prolonging the deaths acceptable.


17 posted on 04/07/2005 7:56:36 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

When heresay evidence is also the "best available evidence" it will prevail. Nothing exceptional there. Extraneous issues are irrelevant.


18 posted on 04/07/2005 7:58:26 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: The Other Harry; floriduh voter; phenn; FreepinforTerri; kimmie7; Pegita; windchime; tutstar; ...

These judges are out of control! My goodness, that granddaughter does not understand! Lord, please help us put an end to this culture of death!

Terri ping! If anyone would like to be added to or removed from my Terri ping list, please let me know by FReepmail!


19 posted on 04/07/2005 10:37:10 AM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: tacomonkey2002; topher

Thanks so much for posting this, it is a better update than what I have previously seen.

Topher, I know Fr. Pavone is extremely busy, but do you think you could pass word of this on to him? We must gain the attention of the world that this is an ongoing travesty of justice, this culture of death. Thank you. I know you will try.


20 posted on 04/07/2005 10:40:57 AM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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