Posted on 04/04/2005 5:11:21 PM PDT by -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-
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Canadian conservatives tend to be liberal by American standards so I don't hold much hope for this.
Candian English to American English translations:
Liberal = Communist
Conservative = Socialist
Nazi = Republican
Gun registration = gun ban
Free speech = censorship
Responsible government = tyranny
Member of Parliament = liar
Criminal conspirator = Member of Parliament
Reporter = liar
Respected expert on global climate change = liar
University professor = mentally ill sociopath
Mentally ill sociopath = radio talk show host
Bacon = ham
Quebecers = mentally ill sociopaths
I think if Matt Drudge (he could be the first, officially) report this it'll start a chain reaction. This is Watergate x1000000!!!.
excuse me? Sorry but that's getting old. The reasons the CPC need to go moderate because Toronto and Montreal control the entire country. Those two cities are socialist. The truth is, our Harper (leader of the CPC, also an economist if you need to know) is very conservative.
You're close. But this isn't horseshoes or hand grenades.:)
The Gomery Commission was set up by the Liberal government of Martin to investigate the Liberal government of Chretien . Martin had been Chretien's finance minister till he fired him . Unfortunately for Chretien , Martin later became Prime Minister . Martin didn't know how deep the shit was. Or if he did he was gambling it wouldn't come out . Now Comery has a publication ban in effect for certain witnesses' testimony , who may later be charged with criminal offenses . It may be lifted as early as next week or at Comery's discretion . Officially it's for the protection of the right of the witnesses for a fair and unbiased trial . The testimony will be public record.
This has happened since the last election . In Quebec alone , 185,000 -200,000 viewers a day watch Gomery . And the Quebec Liberals both Federally and Provincially face dismal futures . The Quebecois are taking this personal .
"You obviously have never followed Massachusetts Politics"
Or New Jersey
To amplify what Mongeau says above in #26: the publication ban specifically covers the testimony of Jean Brault, a person directly involved in the federal sponsorship/advertising funds scandal. His testimony is TEMPORARILY banned from publication only because he is scheduled shortly to be tried on a criminal charge before a jury for his role in the transactions being investigated.
The federal inquiry into the scandal has sensibly decided to forbid media reporting of his revelations in advance of the selection of a jury - for the obvious reason that to do so could appear to prejudice the fairness of his trial and the trials of others who are charged with him.
Brault's lawyers have just asked for the trial to be deferred for several months because of the volume of evidence they are faced with. If the trial is deferred, the publication ban may stay in place, or, more likely, will probably be lifted as Brault's current testimony will not coincide with jury selection.
Dozens of people, including former Prime Minister Jean Chretien, have testified publically before Judge Gomery (Gomery is no friend of Chretien or the Liberal Party, by the way - far from it). The proceedings are televised and freely commented on in the Canadian media.
Canadians very much want to get to the bottom of this stinking mess. I, for one, think the publication ban on Brault's testimony is sensible, if it prevents claims of bias by him, his lawyers or the other alleged fraudsters in this case.
There's way too much hysteria and uninformed Canada-bashing on this thread. Some of the posters here need to chill out and educate themselves a bit about their Northern neighbor. Americans in general know little to nothing about Canada, and it certainly shows here.
That's the real issue here isn't it. Post Soviet neo-marxist political tactics all operate off the same or similar templates. And what has been uncovered in Canada is likely occuring in Leftist controlled political enclaves throughout North America... New York, New Jersey, California, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Washington, Oregon.
That's correct, although a good chunk of Quebec is socialist nowadays.
At least Toronto is an economic powerhouse due to its financial clout (just like New York and Los Angeles - big cities are almost always more left-wing than rural areas and smaller towns), while Montreal (and Quebec as a whole) is an economic drain...Quebec collects many billions more in equalization (welfare) and transfers than they send to the federal government.
our situation is more complicated then the US even if the CPC win.
Thanks for the ping, SSA.
"There's way too much hysteria and uninformed Canada-bashing on this thread. Some of the posters here need to chill out and educate themselves a bit about their Northern neighbor. Americans in general know little to nothing about Canada, and it certainly shows here."
No doubt about it... but im used to the fact that a large chunk of the postings regarding Canada on FR involve uninformed people just wanting to hear themselves speak.
It helps to bear in mind that while most of Québec is pretty insular, Montréal has always been a very cosmopolitan city. The people there tend to be aware that there is life outside the St. Lawrence valley.
It's meant to be sort of toungue-in-cheek, but still, there are a lot of Canadian 'conservatives' here on FR who think that "some" gun control is okay. Who needs a (insert type of 'nasty' firearm here) anyways?
Then they tell about how great Canada's health care system is.
They complain that Americans do not pay enough taxes.
They complain America is cheap on foreign aid but then they fail to count the defacto defense subsidy Canada and others have received from the USA for decades.
On the other side of things, I often find myself defending Canada for the quirks of being a nation bordering a superpower that tries to maintain her own identity. I've applauded (and will continue to do so) Canadians who took in Americans who were stranded in Canada during the 9/11 crisis. I've observed that while Canada invaded the USA once since the Dominion (a little cross border thing in Maine) the USA has invaded Canada fourteen times and threatened war at an official level no less than thirty-one times. Canada has good reasons to be nervous about the USA.
So I'm not entirely one-sided.
I'm also a massive fan of Victoria, B.C. and go there as often as I can. Whistler is nice, too, but I can skip Vancouver as it is just another big city.
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Here's something that sums up my feelings on Canada:
The world is like one big family. The big dad is America, Mother Russia is the mother of course, China and India are the two sibling in constant rivalry, you have the pretty daughter who has a mean streak in France, you have the geeky little brother in Germany, and then you have Canada.
Canada is the cousin with Down's Syndrome everyone in the family loves and cares for. He's always got a smile on his face like a kid with Down's Syndrome, he's quite naive, is timid, insecure, and quite "slow", but in all harmless as long as you don't actually give him any real responsibility.
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