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To: tacomonkey2002
"In watching and reading the news coverage of Terri Schiavo's case, I can't remember hearing the word "euthanasia" once."

For one very good reason. Terri Schiavo's case was not about euthanasia. It was about carrying out her expressed will to die if she were brain damaged and being supported by artificial means.

It was the extreme pro-life crowd that totally ignored Terri's wishes and turned this whole thing into a "hate Michael, he-wants-her-dead" euthanasia circus.

3 posted on 04/03/2005 8:45:51 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
I checked your Freeper join-up date. Just in February 2005.

Are you sure you shouldn't have read the Schiavo threads more closely before channelling CNN on this thread?

At least, your comments gave the appearance that that is what was happening...

Cheers!

4 posted on 04/03/2005 8:58:41 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: robertpaulsen

How do you know what Terri wanted?


5 posted on 04/03/2005 9:02:01 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: robertpaulsen
"It was about carrying out her expressed will to die if she were brain damaged and being supported by artificial means."

"It was the extreme pro-life crowd that totally ignored Terri's wishes..."



There is absolutely zero, none, nada, zilch evidence of Terri's expressed will to die if she were brain damaged and being supported by artificial mean.

Terri's husband alleged that this was what she wanted ~ her parents alleged it was not.

That is the total extent of anyone knowledge about what Terri wanted!

6 posted on 04/03/2005 9:18:24 AM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: robertpaulsen

You blind idiot! Terri was not dying at all. She was healthy! She was not on life support. She was not in a coma! There was no proof she wanted This terrible death. Hearsay is not proof in any court of law. Her loving parents wanted her. She was denied therapy. Her husband wanted her dead for his own selfish reasons.


7 posted on 04/03/2005 9:29:26 AM PDT by Old anti feminist
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To: robertpaulsen
Scuse me, son. Terri did NOT have anything written down about her care. Terri's usual response according to her family and friends was "where there's life, there's hope." Now, does that sound like someone who would say "I don't want to live like that"?

Michael conned the jury into a huge settlement with the promise that he needed the money to give Terri the care she needed for the next 41 years of her life. As soon as he got the monetary award, he stopped all treatment and eventually found the "Hospice" where she lived longer than any other "hospice" patient because she wasn't dying. Hospice is for people with less than a year and usually less than 6 months to live.

Michael is guilty of Medicaid Fraud as is Judge Greer AND Suncoast Hospice. Judge Greer, by judicial decree, allowed Michael to apply for Medicaid for Terri when she still had approximately $50,000 left in her Trust which was to provide for her therapeutic care. I work with Medicaid, there's a MAX of $2000 allowed a patient who applies for Medicaid.

Michael is also guilty of defrauding Terri's Trust fund by using it, again with the blessing of Judge Greer, to pay the legal costs of having Terri killed.

You think it's a 'right-wing conspiracy' and it's not. It IS a "CORRECT USE OF THE LAWS wing of the Pajama-Clad" bloggers.

14 posted on 04/03/2005 10:30:01 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated ("You cannot 'let die' a person who is not dying." RETHINK that position promptly!)
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To: robertpaulsen

now remember, any deviation from the screamers in any terri thread is a big no no.....


15 posted on 04/03/2005 10:30:12 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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To: robertpaulsen; All
It was the extreme pro-life crowd that totally ignored Terri's wishes and turned this whole thing into a "hate Michael, he-wants-her-dead" euthanasia circus.

Terri Schiavo's case was not about euthanasia. It was about carrying out her expressed will to die if she were brain damaged and being supported by artificial means.

Agree 100%. The amount of vitriol that has engulfed this once enlightened forum is depressing to say the least.

I applaud you for stating an opinion concerning Schiavo that has all but been shouted down during this whole ordeal. I, for one, have avoided "TS" threads as they had taken over by fanatics, who in turn hijacked this entire forum, tossing ad hominem attacks towards anyone who didn't toe Randall Terry's radical Operation Rescue platform.

Avoiding "TS" unfortunately, threads has been an exercise in futility as she has become FR's cause celebre for the last several weeks Even non "TS" threads are quickly hijacked and sent plunging off topic. Don't believe me? Look around. Click on many non-Schiavo threads and count how many posts before someone chimes in about Judge Greer or death by starvation. It has taken on something of an amusing quest.

This whole spectacle has been embarrasing. Long time FReepers are leaving in disgust. Naysayers are pointing in our direction saying, "what a bunch of nutjobs over at Free Republic." Sadly, they have a point!

Furthermore, I have never cared how long someone has been registered to post. As long as they did not sign on specifically to troll, it is irrelevant. We all started here at day one.

Finally, Schaivo "died" 15 years ago from complications due to bulimia. Her husband did not strangle her. The fact that medical science was able to keep her body from decomposing for the last 15 years does not mean that she was "alive" and was then murdured by the state!

Flame away people, I'm getting tired anyways. I really don't care anymore. I'll just bide my time on ebay till this whole mess cools down.

19 posted on 04/03/2005 10:52:28 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: robertpaulsen
How easily people can be brainwashed. Did you use terms like "artificial means" to describe nutrition and hydration before the MSM began reporting on the Terri Shiavo case? Were you overtly concerned about an individual's "expressed will to die", and championing those causes before you learned about Terri Shiavo? I doubt it.
30 posted on 04/03/2005 2:09:34 PM PDT by backtalk2000
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To: robertpaulsen
It was the extreme pro-life crowd that totally ignored Terri's wishes and turned this whole thing into a "hate Michael, he-wants-her-dead" euthanasia circus.

I am part of the pro-life crowd but I have to admit that those who carried this case to such extremes with all the conspiracies. The "I know better than anyone what Terri wanted" and if you disagree with me I'll call you names and might evern threaten you crowd made the pro-life cause that much more weak and loonier.

46 posted on 04/03/2005 8:19:05 PM PDT by PFKEY
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