Posted on 03/29/2005 1:38:07 PM PST by 1stFreedom
Coalition Asks Gov. Bush Priorities: Governorship or Terri's Life?
To: National Desk
Contact: Joe Giganti,for the 11th Hour Coalition to Save Terri Schiavo's Life, 703-928-9695
PINELLAS PARK, Fla., March 29 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Paul Schenck, L.H.D., has issued the following statement on behalf of the 11th Hour Coalition to Save Terri Schiavo's Life:
"It is unconscionable that Gov. Bush has not taken executive action to save the life of Terri Schiavo, an innocent woman being brutally murdered in a manner not witnessed publicly since the Nazis in World War II. Frankly, we are baffled by the governor's recent assertion to the Associated Press that, '(he has) not seen any means by which the executive branch can get involved.'
"This is particularly confusing given the contents of a letter sent to the governor by the Thomas More Law Center at his request. In response to Gov. Bush's query of the law center as to whether he had the executive authority to take Terri Schiavo into protective custody, the Thomas More Law Center stated, '...we conclude that you do have that authority. As the Governor of the State of Florida, you are vested with the supreme executive power.' The letter goes on to detail, statute by statute, how and why Gov. Bush can and should take custody of Terri Schiavo. The response concludes, '...you should take immediate custody of Ms. Schiavo, provide for her life support needs, including food and hydration, and medical care, (and) direct the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to conduct a full investigation of the facts and circumstances of this case...'
"Given this compelling information, Gov. Bush's claim seems disingenuous. He is the chief executive officer of the Florida state government, and therefore does not need the permission of the judiciary-especially one so blatantly out of control-or of the legislative branch to protect the innocent life of a citizen. Are we really to believe that the governor can commute the death sentence of a hardened criminal, but cannot stop the dehydration and starvation of a disabled American?
"We all appreciate the work that Gov. Bush has done to this point to help Terri, but this is not a situation when half measures or political maneuvers will suffice. This is literally a matter of life and death, and the governor has the power and authority to defend life.
"In the end, the governor is faced with this question: Would he prefer to maintain his power as governor at the expense of an innocent woman's life, or is he willing to ascend to the highest level of leadership, integrity and courage by saving Terri's life no matter what the personal consequence?"
COALITION MEMBERSHIP: Dr. Paul Schenck, National Pro-Life Action Center on Capitol Hill; Stephen G. Peroutka, Esq., Face the Truth TV & Radio; Fr. Thomas Euteneuer, Human Life International; Joe Scheidler, Pro-Life Action League; Michael A. Peroutka, Esq., Institute on the Constitution; Rev. Greg Cox, Faith and Action; Chris Slattery, The Evergreen Association, Inc.; Fr. Frank Pavone, Priests for Life; Rev. Stephen Cox, Gospel of Life Ministries; Rev. John Vandenberge, National Clergy Council; Pat Monaghan, Catholics United for Life.
I have given that a lot of thought over the years. I STILL don't KNOW the answer to that one.
We are staring right down the barrel of diabolical forces that want nothing less than the destruction of souls. The evil one leading the charge against Terri Schiavo and the “culture of life” is darker and more powerful than most people realize. How do we know? Take note of the almost unexplainable situation we find our beloved nation in today. We are paralyzed. We are incapable of helping the helpless (Schiavo and the unborn) out of fear, pride, and unbelievable confusion. America, the mighty and strong nation, the land of the free and the home of the brave, has met it’s match. An unseen and exceedingly cruel and evil enemy has slithered into our own camp to destroy us from within. We are like a little bird, hypnotized by the dance of the mighty cobra, about to be devoured. Who will break the trance? Let us pray for heroic personalities with wisdom, courage, and strength to wake up America.
What is DU?
Due process was meant to protect the innocent. Some seem to forget that at times.
Dictators oppress people. Leaders take courageous action to save their lives.
So in a word, no.
What law gives King George the authority to demand that nobody give Terri anything to eat or drink?
I am well aware of the statutes that allow the denial of "artificial" food and hydration, though the application in a case which is predicated on a person's "wishing" for something that would have been illegal and unthinkable at the time they supposedly wished it seems rather craven. But what law allows him to forbid oral feeding/hydration as well?
In time of actual war Presidents can get away with a lot more than they can otherwise. FDR, Wilson, Lincoln and others ignored courts and the constitution when they felt it was necessary to save the country.
Do we really want to pull that method of doing things into peacetime?
Which other laws and/or courts would you like the executive to have the option of ignoring?
Are there any laws/courts you would like the executive to obey even when they disagree? If so, on what do you base your differentiation?
You people either
are kids, or childish adults.
If you do not know
history, you must
re-live it. Try re-reading
famous history.
Hitler didn't start
as an oppressive monster.
His selling point was
he would cut through laws
and bureaucracy to do
what people wanted.
Can't you see what you
are calling Jeb Bush to be?
You want a Fuhrer!
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The Führer-Reich of the [German] people is founded on the recognition that the true will of the people cannot be disclosed through parliamentary votes and plebiscites but that the will of the people in its pure and uncorrupted form can only be expressed through the Führer. Thus a distinction must be drawn between the supposed will of the people in a parliamentary democracy, which merely reflects the conflict of the various social interests, and the true will of the people in the Führer-state, in which the collective will of the real political unit is manifested…
The Führer is the bearer of the people's will; he is independent of all groups, associations, and interests, but he is bound by laws which are inherent in the nature of his people. In this twofold condition: independence of all factional [dividing] interests, but unconditional dependence on the people, is reflected the true nature of the Führer principle. The Führer is no representative' of a particular group whose wishes he must carry out ... He is rather himself the bearer of the collective will of the people. In his will the will of the people is realized. He transforms the mere feelings of the people into a conscious will Thus it is possible for him, in the name of the true will of the people which he serves, to go against the subjective [biased] opinions and convictions [beliefs] of single individuals within the people if these are not in accord with the wishes of the people.
[The Führer Principle ]
Ah yes, the classic "If you don't have reason on your side, then call names."
Asking a leader to do the right thing in a specific case is obviously NOT equal to inviting a leader to assume dictatorial power.
By the way, where in the law (and where in the Constitution) does it says that either a private individual or a county judge is allowed to deliberately starve and dehydrate a disabled person to death? Or did you not know that there is a complete prohibition on giving Terri anything to eat or drink, even by mouth?
By the way, where in the law (and in the Constitution) does it say that a county judge is free to completely disregard federal laws duly passed by Congress and simply do as he damn well pleases?
By the way, did you not know that our soldiers have a sworn duty to disobey an illegal order?
Frankly, it's YOU who remind me of the Reich. "I was only obeying orders."
Not to mention how Hitler's oppression began... it began by PASSING LAWS.
"This is the LAW of the land."
And what was the law? It wasn't so bad. A little bit of discrimination against Jews. After all, they were trying to take over German society, weren't they? That certainly couldn't be allowed. And of course, for the betterment of society we had to be free to prevent the defective members from reproducing. It wasn't really such an infringement of rights, was it? It's not like we were depriving the defective of their lives or anything - just keeping them from adding more defective members to society.
And of course, those who really had no hope of having a good quality of life, well, we were really doing them a favor to euthanize them. Right?
I mean, after all, that was the LAW. And the law, as you have so eloquently argued, MUST be obeyed to the letter. Well, except that in this case we really don't have a law authorizing euthanasia in Florida, do we? No matter. As you've argued, Judge Greer IS the law (never mind the Constitution which as its foundation guarantees to all citizens the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as the BASIS of American law).
Therefore, Herr Greer must be obeyed, at all costs.
The judge's orders, after all, MUST be obeyed.
True, very true. They likely are operating on the assumption that the Bush brothers are 1) pro-life and 2) willing to use proper constitutional executive authority to stop courts from allowing killing under cover of law. Right to call for such, naive to think it will actually happen, although it would be nice. Thanks for the edit.
Very relevant:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1373686/posts
That is exactly
what is NOT happening here.
Nobody's blindly
obeying orders.
Rather, doctors have gotten
second opinions
and court decisions
have been reviewed many times.
What's happening here
is the opposite
of mindless state oppression.
What's happening here
is a dynamic
state of checks and balances
has carefully come
to conclusions you
just disagree with, so you
want to throw away
checks and balances.
Like children knocking over
a losing board game.
That's interesting.
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