Note to all...see spodefly's comments in the first 5 posts or so. A very lively discussion was cut off because of a flame war. Don't let individuals you disagree with get the better of you.
Be better than them, stay out of their gutter.
Posted on 03/24/2005 6:33:06 PM PST by Marine Inspector
I’ve been watching with great interest the ‘Minuteman Project’ that has been developing in Arizona. This is a project to organize American citizens to patrol our border with Mexico. This isn’t some U.S. Border Patrol initiative, like the Civil Air Patrol which is an auxiliary of the U.S. Air Force, but a ‘civilian’ initiative to protect our border.
It is obvious that the Border Patrol is incapable, as currently organized, of protecting and defending our sovereignty from the mad rush of illegals that swarm over our southern border. Since President Bush has made it clear he isn’t interested in protecting our country, citizens have taken matters into their own hands. I say, “Good for them.”
Unfortunately for these patriotic citizens, neither the Mexicans nor the U.S. government want them taking part in defending their country. Hispanic gangs have been issuing threats of violence towards the Minutemen, and the Border Patrol is trying to discourage their actions as well.
As far as the gangs are concerned, what else would you expect? These are criminals who don’t want any interference with their transportation of their illegal human cargo. Personally, I think the Minutemen should be prepared to meet any force from these thugs with like force. After all, it’s the Hispanic gangs that are breaking the law, and the Minutemen who are defending our country from this invasion.
Anyone with half a brain would expect the Border Patrol to at least nominally be on the side of the Minutemen. But what kind of comments do we get from the Border Patrol? Here are a few quotes from Andy Adame of the U.S. Border Patrol in Tucson:
"People are going to get hurt."
“Many of these volunteers don't know what they're in for. “
"When you have untrained civilians, that are armed, that are out in the middle of the desert, in the middle of the night, in the dark, and they meet up with one of these smuggling organizations ... you're going to have a gun fight."
"Bringing untrained civilians into this border environment is a recipe for disaster."
While I recognize Mr. Adame may be more of an authority on border issues than myself, due to the government’s refusal to seriously address our immigration problems I am prone to think these comments are born more out of a resentment of the Minutemen due to the fact their actions highlight the Border Patrol’s failures. If Mr. Adame doesn’t want to see these patriots stand up for their country, then the Border Patrol needs to do a better job.
In fact, the state and federal governments as a whole need to do a better job. In general, politicians and law enforcement officials have shown almost a calloused indifference to the problems associated with illegal immigration. For at least the last ten years the majority of Americans have been screaming for the feds to do something about out of control illegal immigration. The response has been to offer repeated amnesties or turn a blind eye to the problem.
Border Patrol officials say there has been a growing level of violence in recent years along the border. What do they expect? This is literally a war that is taking place! We are being invaded, and our federal government refuses to carry out its constitutional duty and defend us!
These Hispanic gangs are not just linked to human smuggling; they smuggle in drugs and arms (And who would those arms be for? The army of illegals within our midst perhaps?), and they are linked to South American terrorist groups as well as Islamic terrorist groups. This is all information the U.S. government admits they know about, and yet refuse to boost the number of Border Patrol agents sufficient to address the problem (thanks again President Bush).
If we truly live in a land of ‘the rule of law,’ and not ‘the rule of men,’ then our elected officials need to act on their oaths of office and defend the rights of the citizens and our sovereignty. They should also remember that when a people are pushed too far, they will rise up to defend their rights themselves. If G.W. Bush and his big-business neo-con cohorts don’t wake up, they will find themselves in a fight with the very citizens that elected them. And the American citizens will find themselves caught in a two-front war, between the U.S. government and Mexico, as the Mexican government is aggressively attempting to undermine U.! S. citizen’s actions to organize and defend our borders through political pressure on the Bush White House, and through our courts and international courts as well.
If George W. Bush had an ounce of integrity, he’d honor his oath of office and increase the numbers in our Border Patrol to levels adequate to handle the situation, have the Department of Justice pursue and prosecute companies that hire illegals, and cut out this cancer of over 10 million illegals within our society. In addition, Bush would support, rather than constantly trying to undermine, the bills being submitted to Congress that enhance the enforcement of our laws against illegals and their abuse of fraudulent ID papers. But then it appears as if it is only the citizens that care about the rule of law. Understand something: if the average rank and file citizen has to take time off from making a living and patrol our borders to defend o! ur country, our border issues are out of control, no matter what any idiot in D.C. says. Remember this when the next election comes around for your Congressman, Senator, and yes, President. Pick someone who will defend our borders, our sovereignty and our Constitution. There are only a handful of representatives in Congress that do this right now, and they need help.
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Ping
"Bush decries border project ^" has been pulled.
No, I did not write this article. LOL
I saw that.
That thread had over 400 posts, and an almost complete agreement among all posters, and some of the best posts I have seen on the subject in a long while. Then, as is predictable, CJ shows up baiting ... unfortunately Czar took the bait and the admin mod yanked a 400+ post thread. I was hopeful that we had turned a corner, but obviously not.
I said it before on the thread Jim Robinson started, discussion of the illegal alien situation on FR is dead. This place is FARK.com for conservatives. My wallet is closed.
GWB calls them "vigilantes," which indicates either that he has no idea what the word 'vigilante' means - a distinct possibility - or that he's completely unware that the Minutemen are not taking the law into their own hands but merely alerting the severly undermanned BP to any suspicious activity (illegals crossing the border). That's not vigilantism. That's patriotism.
This is a good article, BTW. Too bad it was written before Bush's 'vigilante' comment. It would be interesting to see what the author had to say about that.
I believe he knows the definition of "vigilante" and I believe he knows the Minutemen are not "vigilantes"; he's just kissing Fox's rear end.
He's been re-elected and our opinions no longer matter when it comes to immigration and border issues. He'll keep pushing his idiot immigration policies and blame Congress when they don't get passed. Politically, he can't lose on this issue.
Yes it would.
He's been re-elected and our opinions no longer matter when it comes to immigration and border issues.
They may not matter to him personally, but if conservatives get ticked off enough the GOP coffers will start drying up and many will take their votes elsewhere -- third party or Independent conservatives. And that could very well spell disaster for their congressional majority in 11/06. ....as well as the Presidency in '08.
The party establishment should be very worried.
But that was all the excuse they needed, apparently.
A true Commander-in-Chief's primary responsibility is to his OWN country's borders and security and prosperity of its citizens. Pissing-around in pig-countries with their 'freedoms' comes second.
A lame-duck moron's priorities are reversed.
Yes they should.
100% correct and Bush has proven it.
Why's the President not doing something about illegal immigrants? They've caused crime, taken jobs, get welfare, cost us money in hospitals, and drive without insurance? They need to be deported now. I thought the President was going to send more border patrols down on the southern bordre?
Note to all...see spodefly's comments in the first 5 posts or so. A very lively discussion was cut off because of a flame war. Don't let individuals you disagree with get the better of you.
Be better than them, stay out of their gutter.
That's what he wanted you to think. Fortunately, your one of a few Citizens that think for yourself and see through his BS on this issue. He has no intention of doing what is necessary to secure the borders.
Yes. The action was transparent.
Funny that our Pres, doesn't know the difference between vigilante and patriot.
The Constitution also allows for a militia, and militia has been given a dirty reputation.
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