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Rule of Law Damaged by Schiavo Bill
The Future of Freedom Foundation ^ | March 23, 2005 | Sheldon Richman

Posted on 03/23/2005 8:39:18 PM PST by logician2u

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To: logician2u

Right at this point in time it's the bloody judges and the courts ("The System") that has condemned an innocent women to death by a cruel and barbaric method.

"The System" is serving the people?


81 posted on 03/23/2005 9:31:38 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Where were these people when the federal government ended segregation -- on the side of the southern Governors I presume since it was a State's Rights issue? (saracasm)


82 posted on 03/23/2005 9:31:53 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: rmmcdaniell

"...that a real god unknown to you won't punish you for following a false deity?..."


Such a diety would not decieve people by using a humble man who rode a donkey into a city and who spoke in such parables. But you would have to have logic and a heart to understand that.


83 posted on 03/23/2005 9:33:07 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances but human nature is dependably stagnant)
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To: rmmcdaniell; concerned about politics
If you're not sure that a certain god actually exists, how can you be sure that a real god unknown to you won't punish you for following a false deity?

My odds are still better than yours. You're sure to burn in hell if you follow no God.

84 posted on 03/23/2005 9:34:16 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: The Red Zone
HE (the Judge) has ordered the starvation.

What was ordered was the honoring of Teri's wish to not be artificially maintained. That wish was testified to, under oath, by 3 people (see the court records).

When an abomination occurs in the country, the brave and the free don't just stand there mesmerized bowing to abstract legal principles -- they attack the abomination.

Yes, there was an abomination. When someone expresses the desire to NOT be artificially maintained and that wish is ignored for 15 YEARS, that is indeed an abomination. Try imagining what it would be like to be encased in a glass coffin, unable to move on your own, dependent upon others to perform all of your basic hygiene requirements, etc. for 15 years. There are not many tortures more gruesome than that.

85 posted on 03/23/2005 9:34:22 PM PST by Semper
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To: rmmcdaniell
I'm not saying I believe this, but there could be a real god who remains hidden and gifted humanity with reason and will punish those gullible fools who refuse to use thier gifts out of fear.

Well if you don't believe it, what rational basis could there be for your choice to not believe?

86 posted on 03/23/2005 9:35:35 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: WBurgVACon
"...Do you think God is stopped by a feeding tube?

Uh....YES!

87 posted on 03/23/2005 9:36:13 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
As far as we social conservatives are concerned, you are just liberals who want a tax cut.

As far as I'm concerned, your types are just statists who have different motivations for jackbooting than the Marxists.

88 posted on 03/23/2005 9:36:23 PM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: ClintonBeGone
My odds are still better than yours. You're sure to burn in hell if you follow no God.

What are you bitching at me for? I'm a creation, the other believes he/she is the blob of inbred elements. Sheesh!

89 posted on 03/23/2005 9:37:35 PM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: logician2u
The constraints of our Constitution need to be adhered to, whether or not injustices are perceived to be happening as a result of some state or local official's malfeasance. If they aren't virtually everything becomes a federal issue.

The woman has a substantive due process righ to life pursuant to the 14th Amendment. That is a federal issue. The Schindler's lawyers failed to raise this argument on Monday and now Terri's fate is in the hands of Justice Kenendy.

However, there are greater laws and principles than our Constitution. We all have an inherent right to life, and natural law vests us with the liberty to determine our own fate. At some point, if Terri Schiavo is to live purusant to these natural and inherent rights, extra consitutional measures become necessary. I support the executive branch taking such measures based on these natural law principles.

If you disagree, that is your right but be aware that the Constituiton as interpreted by the judiciary is now the final arbiter of your right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

90 posted on 03/23/2005 9:37:40 PM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: Semper

Nutrition was not "artificial maintenance" when she allegedly made the statements. You can't morph the law defining that term, read it into a prior statement, and call it justice.


91 posted on 03/23/2005 9:38:54 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Semper

She was in various states of consciousness over those "15 years" including a few moments of perfect lucidity when she could have asked to end it all but didn't.


92 posted on 03/23/2005 9:39:56 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: PhiKapMom
Where were these people when the federal government ended segregation -- on the side of the southern Governors I presume since it was a State's Rights issue? (saracasm)

Most are the same lunatics that want pot legalized and have a deep-seated hatred for the federal government because it enforces federal drug laws and funds an agency called the (DEA) Drug Enforcement Agency.

93 posted on 03/23/2005 9:40:38 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: logician2u
Welcome to the Future of Freedom Foundation - Uncompromising Libertarianism

ROTFLMAO -I am easily amused...

94 posted on 03/23/2005 9:40:39 PM PST by DBeers
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To: concerned about politics
What are you bitching at me for? I'm a creation, the other believes he/she is the blob of inbred elements. Sheesh!

Not bitching, I was just copying you on my post to him.

95 posted on 03/23/2005 9:42:40 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: bigeasy_70118
If you disagree, that is your right but be aware that the Constituiton as interpreted by the judiciary is now the final arbiter of your right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

I agree with you.
Imagine a Clinton appointee in charge of your feeding tube! You'd be a goner, even if your ailment was gas and that feeding tube was really just your belt buckle!!
When it's legal to abort the less that perfect adult because someone else demands it, this country is in big trouble!

96 posted on 03/23/2005 9:43:57 PM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Exactly! Getting more obvious by the day on some of these people that don't value life.


97 posted on 03/23/2005 9:44:28 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: bigeasy_70118

Are you a lawyer? If so, what do you think the burden has been on the parent's lawyer(s). I'm certain these guys will never get paid and yet here you have one firm running from DC to Tampa to Talahasse to Atlanta filing appeals, lobbying congress, the state capitol, etc. Incredible.


98 posted on 03/23/2005 9:46:29 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: logician2u; All

Only Governor Bush can save Terri at this time.

CONTACT JEB BUSH HERE:

E-mail: jeb.bush@myflorida.com

Telephone: 850/488-4441

Fax: 850/487-0801


99 posted on 03/23/2005 9:46:39 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Every morning we awaken to a new dawn is reason enough to celebrate - have a drink, Teddy!)
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To: concerned about politics
Imagine a Clinton appointee in charge of your feeding tube!

You really start to worry when you see next to the treatment box on your chart the words "Vince Foster".

100 posted on 03/23/2005 9:47:50 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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