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The Once And For All Terri Schiavo's NOT Vegetative Thread!
Terri's Fight ^ | 3/18/05 | jonboy

Posted on 03/18/2005 3:53:54 PM PST by jonboy

I get SOOOOO tired and exasperated at so many of these people talking about Terri as though she is vegetative. I lost a friend last November who was in a vegetative state for 4 days before she died. Her eyes were open, she was breathing by machine, and there was nothing and I mean nothing alive about her. It was one of the most wrenching things I've ever experienced.

For those who HAVE NOT familiarized themselves with Terri's situation, follow the links and educate yourselves. I'm sick of people speaking on this forum about her who have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE about her situation. Your UNINFORMED opinion is NOT needed, NOT wanted, and NOT helpful. Watch the videos on the links provided and you will see a severely brain damaged woman responding on a very basic level. You will NOT see a woman who is vegetative or in a coma. If you want to have Terri killed anyway due to her problems, just be consistent and say that you would like ALL people like her killed as well. And don't say we should defer to the family. THE FAMILY OF THIS WOMAN IS BEING SHUT OUT. And this is being done by the man who though still "technically" married to her has fathered two children out of wedlock and is living with their mother.

It could not be more obvious that this woman needs more time. I heard the woman on CNN earlier today saying that Terri was going to be given pain medication. PAIN medication!!! Where are the questions from the evil brain dead media? Why does a "vegetative" woman in a "coma" need PAIN medication?

As the situation stands, Terri's parents contend that her tragedy began under mysterious circumstances, that her husband may have had a violent past that she may have been victim to, and that Michael Schiavo has motive to want her dead beyond his stated desire to "keep her wishes." Furthermore, they think that Terri may be rehabilitated to a point if given the opportunity (which thus far she has not). WHY will they not be allowed to take care of this woman?! If she is in a vegetative state, what the heck difference will it make to her anyway? THINK people on the evil or uninformed side of this!!!

Follow the links:

Terri and her Mother

Swab Test

Terri Responding to Music

Tracking a Balloon for Dr. Cranford

Asked to Open Her Eyes

"How's Your Cold?"


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KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; imageofgod; imherdoctor; lifelibertyhappiness; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terriwantstolive
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To: jonboy

If Congress allows Greer and loving husband to pee all over their subpoena, they will reap the whirlwind.

Subpeonas so vital to getting themselves on tv won't be worth the paper they're written on. Everyone will flip them off in the future - the baseball players should have anyway.


21 posted on 03/18/2005 4:22:17 PM PST by Let's Roll ("Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: jonboy

This question is humbly submitted by a physician. Providing nutrition through a gastrostomy tube is not really a skilled medical service. You simply open a can (5 or 6 times a day) of an eneteral nutrional supplement and pour it into the gastrostomy tube and add suppplemental water to maintain proper hydration. This can be done at home and was being for Terri at her facility. It is not rocket science. WHY CANNOT TERRI'S PARENTS PROVIDE THIS SERVICE OR ARRANGE FOR THE FACILITY'S STAFF TO CONTINUE THIS SERVICE? A greater challenge is to protect the skin from pressure ulcers, position the patient to avoid aspiraton, maintain joint range of motion, and tend to the patient's comfort and dignity.
It is not unusual for patients to not have an advanced directive and for family members to disagree as to what the patient would have desired. Under such circumstances it seems difficult to select an irreversible pathway that leads to demise when adament family members (especially parents) are ready, willing, and presumably able to support a person with quite simple measures. Am I missing something in this discussion?


22 posted on 03/18/2005 4:22:45 PM PST by ucsd1974 (A red county in a blue state.)
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To: Soul Seeker

I watch CNN about once a millenium. I do it to merely get the left's view. This afternoon Bay Buchannon was on calling a spade a spade with that foul wench Donna Brazil on the other side. Bay said something about why Donna didn't care more about this, and then Donna said why don't Republicans care more about the people who are unjustly on death row. It was a priceless contrast between left and conservative values.


23 posted on 03/18/2005 4:22:57 PM PST by jonboy
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To: jonboy

Today in this country there are many brain damaged individuals of various degrees.
Some suffered anoxia at birth. Some from auto accidents.

Since Teri is able to breathe is indicative that she has positive brain waves. Also her heart beats without any assistance. This again is a clear indication that her brain (the SA node)is able to send the electrical impulse to her right atrium causing the heart muscle to contract.

A vegetative state means one is brain dead.

Teri is not brain dead!


24 posted on 03/18/2005 4:23:14 PM PST by joanofarc
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To: Soul Seeker
Trying to sneak tax hikes into legislation meant to prevent her starvation?

What's the story there? You have specifics? If you do, it's something people can remember, year after year after election.

25 posted on 03/18/2005 4:24:40 PM PST by sevry
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To: ucsd1974

Well put. You are seeing the same thing that I and so many others are FRUSTRATED with. WHY DO THEY WANT THIS WOMAN DEAD?!


26 posted on 03/18/2005 4:26:40 PM PST by jonboy
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To: Let's Roll

I am watching Chrissy Matthews (I never do but it happened to be on and about Terri)and he said the legislature is working all weekend to help Terri. Rep. Dan Burton is on now and he is talking about what they are trying to do.
I have to admit, Matthews is being more fair than normal. The problem here is alot of people really don't know about Terri and her true condition, they are taking the word of Felos. But I have noticed that Matthews actually is trying to get to the truth and he let Terri's lawyer explain quite a bit. Of course we all know that most demoncrats are cut from evil cloth and no amount of truth will matter to them.


27 posted on 03/18/2005 4:27:11 PM PST by LegalEagle61
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To: jonboy

Prayers for Terri and her family.


28 posted on 03/18/2005 4:27:35 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: sevry

I don't know. So many threads about here but in at least one mention was made a talk show host that stated they tried to include tax hikes. At this point consider it rumor, but if it's proven to be true, yes, it'll be used against them deservedly.


29 posted on 03/18/2005 4:29:14 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: jonboy

Oh, so to Libs this is about REVENGE? because we let murderers die they are going to let an innocent woman starve to death in a manner more barbaric than what those death row inmates will experience? That is sick.


30 posted on 03/18/2005 4:31:30 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: MonroeDNA

This is extremely offensive.


31 posted on 03/18/2005 4:34:17 PM PST by bubbleb
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To: TigersEye

When was this shot...


32 posted on 03/18/2005 4:35:40 PM PST by ARA
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To: MonroeDNA

Correction. You are extremely offensive and may our Lord reveal to you how ashamed you should be.


33 posted on 03/18/2005 4:37:36 PM PST by bubbleb
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To: ARA

I don't know. Anyone else know?


34 posted on 03/18/2005 4:37:38 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: MonroeDNA

And veggies should be killed!! Death to the disabled!!

< /sarcasm >

You are one heartless human being.


35 posted on 03/18/2005 4:37:55 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: Nightshift; Ohioan from Florida

ping


36 posted on 03/18/2005 4:39:10 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: LisaMalia
All I can say to that is, I know how I wanted to hold on to my daddy, who was dying of cancer about this time last year. The only thing that allowed me to let go was know that he was in pain. Terri is not in pain. I would give anything to have my dad back, for the rest of my life, if he were in the condition Terri is in, where there's still hope! Same goes for the rest of my immediate family members, if they were in that situation.

I agree completely.

37 posted on 03/18/2005 4:39:51 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: MonroeDNA

38 posted on 03/18/2005 4:42:54 PM PST by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: jonboy

You think an argument is more persuasive if you post it 50 times with more exclamation points?


39 posted on 03/18/2005 4:43:56 PM PST by BCrago66
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To: Taquito

She's being murdered, right this very second.

Are you happy now? Enjoy your dinner.


40 posted on 03/18/2005 4:44:37 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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