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Bobby Byrd on the nuclear option.[You have got to read what Byrd said today]
RadioBlogger ^ | 3-01-05 | Robert Byrd

Posted on 03/01/2005 5:37:44 PM PST by OXENinFLA

For those who may not have seen it, Mr. Smith (Goes to Washington) is the fictional story of one young Senator's crusade against forces of corruption, and his lengthy filibuster, his lengthy filibuster for the values he hold dear. My how things have changed. These days, Mr. Smith would be called an obstructionist. Rumor has it that there is a plot on foot to curtail the right of extended debate in this hollowed chamber. Not in accordance with its rules, mind you, but by fiat from the Chair. Fiat from the Chair. The so-called nuclear option. Hear me! The so-called nuclear option.

This morning I asked a man, "What does the nuclear option mean to you?" He said, "Oh, you mean with Iran?" I was in the hospital a few days ago with my wife. And I asked her doctor, I asked a doctor, "What does the nuclear option mean to you?" He said, "Well, it sounds like we're getting ready to drop some device, some atomic device on North Korea." Well, the so-called nuclear option puports to be directed solely at the Senate's advice and consent prerogatives regarding federal judges. But the claim that no right exists to filibuster judges aims an arrow straight at the heart of the Senate's long tradition of unlimited debate.

James Madison, James Madison wanted to grant the Senate the power to select judicial appointees, with the executive relegated to the sidelines. But a compromise brought the present arrangement. The appointees selected by the executive, with the advice and consent of the Senate confirmed. Note, hear me again, note that nowhere, nowhere in the Constitution of the United States is a vote on appointments mandated.

It will be the Office of the President to nominate, and, with the advice and consent of the Senate, to appoint. There will, of course, be no exertion of choice on the part of the Senate. They may defeat one choice of the Executive, and oblige him to make another; but they cannot themselves choose - they can only rafity or reject the choice he may have made.

So you can see what it means to the smallest states in these United States to be able to stand on this floor and debate to their utmost. Until their feet will no longer hold them, and their lungs of brass will no longer speak in behalf of their states in behalf of a minority in behalf of an issue that affects vitally their constituencies. Unfettered debate.

One of the main bulwarks against the growing power, is free debate in the Senate. So long as there's free debate, men of courage and understanding will rise to defend against potential dictators. The Senate today is one place where no matter what else may exist, there is still a chance to be heard. An opportunity to speak. The duty to examine. And the obligation to protect. It is one of the few refuges of democracy.

Minorites have an illustrious past full of suffering, torture, smear and even death. Jesus Christ was killed by a majority. Columbus was smeared. Christians have been tortured. Had the United States Senate existed during those trying times, I'm sure those people would have found an advocate. Nowhere else can any political, social or religious group finding itself under sustained attack receive a better refuge. Well, Mr. President, Senator Jenner was right. The Senate was deliberatly conceived to be what he called a better refuge, meaning one styled as a guardian of the rights of the minority. The Senate is the watchdog because majorities can be wrong, and filibusters can highlight injustices, and history is full of examples.

Hitler's originality lay in his realization that effective revolutions in modern conditions are carried out with, and not without, not against, the power of the State. The correct order of events was first to secure access to that power of the State, and then begin his revolution. Hitler never abandoned the cloak of legality. He never abandoned the cloak of legality. He recognized the enormous, psychological value of having the law on his side. Instead, he turned the law inside out and made his illegality legal. And that is what the nuclear option seeks to do. To Rule 22 of the standing rules of the Senate. I said to someone this morning who was shoveling snow in my area. "What does nuclear option mean to you?" He answered, "Oh, you mean with Iran?" The people generally don't know what this is about. The nuclear option seeks to alter the rules by sidestepping the rules, thus making the impermissable the rule.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: byrd; grandwizard; judicialnominees; kkkrecruiter; kleagle; knightriderbyrd; nuclearoption; racist; robertkkkbyrd; whitesheets
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To: BigSkyFreeper; OXENinFLA
I find it mind-boggling that the Republicans are taking this whole thing lying down.

I don't think they are. I think Orin Hatch had a rather good response to this nonsense. Perhaps we can get it tomorrow.

21 posted on 03/01/2005 5:48:09 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: OXENinFLA
It's about the most disjointed writing I've seen in awhile. I read it twice and still can't figure out whether he's for the filibuster or against it.

He comes out strongly both ways.

22 posted on 03/01/2005 5:48:17 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Mo1; OXENinFLA

Sheesh.
And the Dems wonder why they lose elections.


23 posted on 03/01/2005 5:48:23 PM PST by Darksheare (Tagline error. Expected file 'zot.class' not present. Contact site Admin.)
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To: Mo1
Hugh pointed out that Sheets used the filibuster Rule to block the Civil Rights Act of 1964

As did Charles Krauthamer on FoxNews' Special Report this evening.

24 posted on 03/01/2005 5:48:46 PM PST by pookie18 (Clinton Happens!)
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To: hsmomx3
I can't figure out why citizens keep on voting for this guy.

He brings home the bacon.

25 posted on 03/01/2005 5:48:49 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a theory based on conspiracies.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I find it mind-boggling that the Republicans are taking this whole thing lying down.

Mind-boggling but no longer suprising. The Republicans Senators expect a kiss before the Democrats leave and cry into their pillows when the Dems don't call the next day.

26 posted on 03/01/2005 5:49:00 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Blackwell for Governor 2006: hated by the 'Rats, feared by the RINOs.)
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To: Peach
I heard this tonight and thought, people must be getting pretty tired of hearing the GOP referred to as Nazis every five seconds.

Previous it was the Far Left Loons that used that line

Now it is a United States Senator calling Republicans Nazi on the Senate Floor

You Don't Do that

The Dems have stooped to an all time low with these comments

27 posted on 03/01/2005 5:49:27 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to the Media/Press ... Why are you hiding the Eason Jordan tapes ????)
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To: Mo1
Now it is a United States Senator calling Republicans Nazi on the Senate Floor; You Don't Do that

You are right. Beyond the pale.

28 posted on 03/01/2005 5:50:35 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: Bahbah

If it had been me, Byrd would have been rushed out of the Senate so fast, his adult diapers would have to catch the next bus.


29 posted on 03/01/2005 5:50:37 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a theory based on conspiracies.)
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To: Mo1
Byrd has been in the Senate long enough to know better. He talks about history, Bill Of Rights, the Constitution, Congressional decorum and all that.

Friggin hypocrite.

30 posted on 03/01/2005 5:52:29 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a theory based on conspiracies.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

LOL, I have no doubt about that.


31 posted on 03/01/2005 5:53:01 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: Bahbah

Orin Hatch! I'm surprised that twit propeller head had any response at all, let alone a "rather good response"! I'm all ears waiting to hear it.


32 posted on 03/01/2005 5:53:02 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Sit nomen Dómini benedíctum,Ex hoc nunc, et usque in sæculum! per ómnia saecula saeculórum)
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To: Bahbah

Hatch started talking just as I was leaving work.


33 posted on 03/01/2005 5:55:19 PM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Mo1

Byrds comments are no more outrageous than the gutless response I've heard from the Pubs on this.

I'm livid.


34 posted on 03/01/2005 5:55:56 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Blogs have a strangle hold on the MSM. The MSM is kicking out the windshield.)
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To: OXENinFLA
The Senate is the watchdog because majorities can be wrong, and filibusters can highlight injustices, and history is full of examples.

Elections don't matter. We liberals know what is best.

35 posted on 03/01/2005 5:56:28 PM PST by Balata
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To: BigSkyFreeper

The other day I wrote my monthly check for the RNC...I've said this before, and now Im gonna do it...please, someone call me from the RNC...I will not give another dollar until someone on the Repub side grows a pair and stands up to these rats...I've had it with the judicial nominees affair...what's the point of being in the majority.....Im sorry for the rant, but I've had it.


36 posted on 03/01/2005 5:56:54 PM PST by mystery-ak (right handed, left thumb on top)
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To: All

Byrd is on C-span 2 right now...


37 posted on 03/01/2005 5:58:12 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: OXENinFLA

Hatch talked about the history of the filibuster and how it was used for legislative issues, not appointments, if I recall correctly. It was an interesting day on the floor. Byrd ought to be put out to pasture after this performance.


38 posted on 03/01/2005 5:58:47 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Gutless wonders. They have the power and they're still wimps.
39 posted on 03/01/2005 5:59:19 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Txsleuth; Mo1

BTTT!


Flip on


C-span2


40 posted on 03/01/2005 5:59:26 PM PST by OXENinFLA
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