Don't forget there are two issues at hand - religious marriage (for those who do it) and legal marriage.
I think religious marriage does belong to the people - the congregation should have a say in the theologic policy of their churches.
So if you're an atheist are you not entitled to get married then?
Oh yeah?
I seem to smell some incoming.....
The Bible is the standard many of us go by for what is right, wrong, traditional, or offensive. God did not ordain marriage for the benefit of "all" as you put it, else we could marry our relatives, children, dogs, sheep, etc...
Society, both the religious and non-religious, are taking a stand and are largely in vast agreement, that homosexual marriage is an offense to this society. Gays are free to live as they please, but marrying and the adoption of children is what is at issue. Only Democratic politicians and activist judges feel otherwise. Even the blue states voted down gay marriage in the last election.
You are on the losing side of this one. And that isn't likely to change except for the mischief judges can do.
Zotsky time.
hey you!!!
Troll!!
You got anything to say or are you just a hit and run dud?
I am betting on dud. Why can't you idiots ever stick around so we can have someone for the Kittens to play with?
Same sex legal (Marriage) would mean that marriage, as civilization has known it for over 5,000 years, would cease to be about the family and about legalizing perversion. I can find no civilization in recorded history that has allowed marriage to be disparaged.
Sometimes I think that we married people might be better off if there were fewer of us so we could claim minority status, and our argument could be as simple as:
Blacks are allowed to use the "N" word and call each other it, but noone else; the word "belongs" to us alone.
Homosexuals are allowed to call each other "queers, fairies, fags, etc..., but not heterosexuals: the words belong to them alone.
We could do the same if we were a minority group; the word "marriage" belongs to us - end of argument.
Nonsense. Our marriage belongs to us, and was founded by our love for one another relative to an objective reality. I respect Christians' contribution to western civ enough to join you in opposing gay marriage, but dont respect this claim that someones concept of God founded my marriage. We own that, and dont ask for anyones blessing.
Gay marriage is no worse than network Reality Shows that pair people up to be married or the soaring divorce rates that infect the American culture.
"Gay Marriage" is a "trojan horse" method of attack by radical homosexual activists attempting to legitimize homosexuality in the courts and by legislation. Should homosexual marriage be legalized the end resuilt by judicial fiat would be ligitimized homosexuality across the board. This means that school children by law would be taught that homosexuality and homosexual behavior is "safe" and "normal" and by law parents will have no grounds to object.
Excerpts from Gay marriage 'rights' December 31, 2004 | Thomas Sowell
The issue is not individual rights. What the activists are seeking is official social approval of their lifestyle. But this is the antithesis of equal rights.
If you have a right to someone else's approval, then they do not have a right to their own opinions and values. You cannot say that what "consenting adults" do in private is nobody else's business and then turn around and say that others are bound to put their seal of approval on it.
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The rhetoric of "equal rights" has become the road to special privilege for all sorts of groups, so perhaps it was inevitable that gay activists would take that road as well. It has worked. They have already succeeded in getting far more government money for AIDS than for other diseases that kill far more people.
The time is long overdue to stop word games about equal rights from leading to special privileges -- for anybody -- and gay marriage is as good an issue on which to do so as anything else.
What the activists really want is the stamp of acceptance on homosexuality, as a means of spreading that lifestyle, which has become a death style in the era of AIDS.
They have already succeeded to a remarkable degree in our public schools, where so-called "AIDS education" or other pious titles are put on programs that promote homosexuality. In some cases, gay activists actually come to the schools, not only to promote homosexuality as an idea but even to pass out the addresses of local gay hangouts to the kids.
There is no limit to what people will do if you let them get away with it. That our schools, which are painfully failing to educate our children to the standards in other countries, have time for promoting homosexuality is truly staggering.
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How could a whole nation be so easily swayed into gross error? The answer is simple: Once the "terror of the transcendent" (as Hitler labeled the Judeo-Christian moral ethic) is removed, the rest is history.
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Remove the standards, and all things become permissible, and correction becomes nearly impossible.