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"44" (Condi Rumor)
Shape of Days ^ | 2/14/2005 | Section9

Posted on 02/14/2005 5:46:50 AM PST by section9

File this under rumor, the kind of which has the ring of truth to it. From the Shape of Days blog:

February 09, 2005

One for the rumor mill: ‘44’

I wish I could remember where I heard this. I've been meaning to post it for a couple of weeks, and in the intervening time I've completely forgotten who told me about it. So file this one under rumors-comma-amusing.

Everybody knows that the President refers to his father affectionately as "41," right? After the fact that George H.W. Bush was the 41st President of the United States. Bill Clinton was #42, and George W. Bush is #43.

The rumor goes that ever since the election, the President has been jokingly referring to Secretary of State Condi Rice as "44."

Part of me really wants Condi to get the nomination in '08 because I think she'd be a fantastic President … but part of me wants her to get the nomination just so we can finally put that "the GOP is a white-men-only club" nonsense to bed once and for all.

I ran across this in the blogosphere last night, and it seemed to have the ring of truth to it, as Bush is the kind of guy who not only jokes that way, but probably thinks that way, as well. Would not at all be surprised if it's true.

Just thought I'd pass it along.


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To: section9

DEBKA? Please explain acronyms.....


21 posted on 02/14/2005 5:58:26 AM PST by thag (Up armor this......)
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To: Phyto Chems
Rice/Quayle?? Rice/Newt??

I'm hoping we come up with an unknown named George Beens.

Rice & Beens in 2008!!!!

22 posted on 02/14/2005 5:58:52 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: section9

"Yes 99...I'm sure it was 43 and he said 44!......she's gonna run against 666 in 08!!!"


23 posted on 02/14/2005 5:59:09 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: section9
It would be fun to watch the Dems run against a Black woman-- they'd have to make her out to be a 'house negro' or an 'Uncle Tom (Aunt Jemima?)' and that would probably destroy a good chunk of the black support they still have by exposing the fact that, in the Democratic view, black people are free-thinking individuals, as long as they think what they're told.
24 posted on 02/14/2005 6:00:25 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: B Knotts

Single issue voters are morons. So, if GWB were not as pro-life as he is, and say Kerry won, would that have been good for the country while the terrorists got their message that we would cut and run?


25 posted on 02/14/2005 6:01:06 AM PST by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: B Knotts

Has Dr. Rice ever expressly stated her views on abortion? If so, could someone cite a source and quotes? Or are we just speculating?


26 posted on 02/14/2005 6:02:18 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mo

What I like about Condi is that she is tough and does not back down whereas so many patsy GOP types up there are afraid of their own shadow.


27 posted on 02/14/2005 6:02:31 AM PST by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: DainBramage

LOL!

Very good, I can just hear his voice saying that!


28 posted on 02/14/2005 6:02:45 AM PST by jocon307 (Vote George Washington for the #1 spot)
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To: DainBramage
LOL!

Wasn't it 44 that would be hiding in the mailbox and such?

29 posted on 02/14/2005 6:04:19 AM PST by Gumption
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To: B Knotts

Sadly, I must agree. She hasn't made a definative stance on RvW 'cept to say it's a states' rights issue. If she's pro-choice, say such, but don't expect to survive the primaries because of the social conservatives.


30 posted on 02/14/2005 6:04:43 AM PST by Maigrey ("... I will stand in front of the box to put my heart in it." - Mohammed from Iraq the Blog)
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To: section9

Reps will vote for the best candidate, hopefully they will not vote because someone is a member of a minority.


31 posted on 02/14/2005 6:05:40 AM PST by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: section9
The problem as I see it with her running is that a lot of Southern Democrat and rural vote that went to Bush last year, won't vote for her. A perfect example is the Louisiana Governor's election in 2003. Though he was a fairly strong conservative, Bobby Jindal, whose family is from India, though he's Catholic, could not draw enough votes from the more rural north LA. parishes.

Look at the history of the majority of black politicians. Liberals like Jesse, Carol Braun, and Sharpton come to mind. People less informed will be leery of her.

And sadly,I think that race in many areas of the country still trumps the competency of Rice.
32 posted on 02/14/2005 6:07:51 AM PST by Round 9
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To: Gumption

I think he was called Larabee.


33 posted on 02/14/2005 6:09:24 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: DainBramage

34 posted on 02/14/2005 6:09:24 AM PST by pageonetoo (you'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Where have I heard that before?
35 posted on 02/14/2005 6:10:35 AM PST by ASA Vet (Incumbent VP Rice in 08)
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To: Lazamataz

I know of more democrats who wouldn't vote for a black person. The Republicans I know would say "Whoo-Hoo" for Condi. I don't believe she is pro abortion.


36 posted on 02/14/2005 6:11:48 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: PilloryHillary

"I like this kind of stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if this story has a bit of truth....sounds like something Pres. Bush would joke about. Thanks for posting it."

Rumors are founded upon truth. Except Drudge saying we got Zarquawi.


37 posted on 02/14/2005 6:13:43 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (60 votes and the world changes.)
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To: Tom Bombadil

Rice is pro choice. She also has never even run for city council. I hope she doesn't even think about going down this road because she will be eaten alive. That is not to say that she won't be a great S of State. It's just that electoral politics is a different animal.

It is true that we don't have a standard bearer for 08 yet. But we don't need to push the panic button. Hillary will be formidable, but not unstoppable.

On a lighter note, a few trivia questions:

1) Who was the last person who served as S of STate to run for President?

2) Who was the last person who served as S of State to be a nominee of a party for President?

3) Who was the last person who served as S of State serve as President?

I think I know all three, though I am a little less sure of 2 than the others.

Anyone want to hazard guesses?


38 posted on 02/14/2005 6:16:23 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: mountaineer

In an August 30, 1999 interview with National Review, Condoleezza Rice described herself as "mildly pro-choice" on abortion (whatever that means - sounds Clintonesque).

Also, about two years ago, I heard her in an off-guard moment describe how she and Pres. Bush have differing positions on abortion, explaining she was committed to "choice".

Whatever else one may think of her, her abortion position would be the kiss of death in the GOP primaries. The pro-life forces have invested too much time and energy over the last 30 years to have their efforts co-opted by a "pro-choice" candidate.


39 posted on 02/14/2005 6:19:27 AM PST by pkajj
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To: mountaineer

We are not speculating though I don't have a link at my fingertips. In one of the weekly news periodicals a few years back she said that she was pro choice but admitted she hadn't thought much about the issue. Since that time, however, she has also in other interviews said that she has become much more re-connected with her Christian faith. Perhaps that might help her see the light on this. That said, it is a bit late for someone who has held the highest offices in government and academia and who has an earned doctorate to just now be thinking about the most divisive issue of this generation, isn't it?


40 posted on 02/14/2005 6:20:49 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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