Posted on 01/30/2005 4:52:09 PM PST by PJ-Comix
The DUmmie response to the Iraq elections today has been somewhat subdued. They must be trying to figure out what position to take on the elections. To oppose the elections means to oppose what is now obviously the desire of the vast majority of the Iraqis who were thrilled to vote. However, their dilemma is that to support the elections means in their DUmmie minds to support the EVIL Bush regime. For these reasons, there has been relatively little commentary on the Iraq elections than I would have expected. However, FEAR NOT, the DUmmies havent completely given up their wacko viewpoints as you can see in this DUmmie THREAD titled, DUers rooting AGAINST the elections?? As could be expected the vast majority of the DUmmies on this thread answered the question in the affirmative. And the others I suspect of being LOUSY FREEPER TROLLS including the original author of this thread. As usual, the bah humbug DUmmie comments are in Bolshevik Red while the commentary your humble correspondent, viewing them from the balcony of the Menshevik Hotel, is in the [brackets]:
DUers rooting AGAINST the elections?? WTF? Look, can't we oppose the war, the premise and Shrub but still hope for the best and think good thoughts for the BRAVE people in Iraq that are actually getting their asses to the polls?!? This is about the Iraqis at this point - NOT shrub. Yes Shrub will declare 'victory' because of it - but my priority has to be w/ the Iraqi people right now. The sooner they feel they have valid self determination, the harder it will be for shrub to just sit there and occupy them. I *am* conflicted about this - but, the bottom line, for me - This is GOOD for the Iraqis. Is it good for Shrub? I don't give a shit. I will fight shrubs agenda just as hard. But I am glad for the Iraqis today.
[Hmmm .. I am VERY suspicious of this post. It sounds TOO REASONABLE for the typical DUmmie. However, this poster did call Bush Shrub and sounded a bit like he was opposed to Shrub. But would that be a normal ploy to throw off the DUmmies. Okay, I am going out on the limb here and accuse this poster of being a LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
You can't support democracy and support this sham. It's the obligation of every decent free thinking human being to call this what it is.
[PHEW! Back to the normal DUmmie insanity.]
They will be using tabulation computers. Completely hackable.
[Karl Rove FIXED the Iraqi elections. Fixing the Ohio vote was just a dry run for Iraq.]
There was no election, just a bullshit scam.
[A scam just like in Ohio.]
Nobody (or I at least dont think so) is agaisnt the elections in Iraq. This is probably one of the only good things that have happened so far.
[Umm . Better check out the Dummie post just above yours.]
only real vote over there would be vote on whether or not to kick US out. Let's see them let them vote on that.
[How about a vote of confidence for the terrorists? Im sure you could support that.]
I hope this works out for Iraq. These people have suffered enough - under Saddam, under Bush.
[According to DUmmie lore, they suffered much much worse under Bush.]
The only trouble with that is that the election was bush's idea. And he has never been demonstrably successful at anything important in his life.
[Except for winning the Presidency TWICE.]
"This is good for the Iraqis" WTF? WHAT is good for the Iraqis? A bogus stagecrafted *election* that was done only to support Bush's propaganda campaign? BUSH USED THOSE PEOPLE and LIED TO THEM to PROMOTE HIS AGENDA. Encouraging people to risk their lives for a bogus election is not doing anything GOOD. WHAT GOOD have we done for the Iraqis? ANSWER THAT QUESTION, PLEASE, I'd really like to know.
[Yeah. The Iraqis were better off giving 99.9% of their vote to Saddam Hussein in open and honest elections as opposed to this stagecrafted election.]
I PISS on bush's big parade. election schmection.
[You are obviously suffering from election dejection.]
Of course, anything to hurt Bush even at the expense of the Iraqis. Let them die, as long as Bush is discredited, it's worth it. Republicans vs. Democrats in DC is much important than the fate of Iraq. /sarcasm OFF
[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
Iraqi "voters" are like the first weekend crowds for GIGLI about to be VERY disappointed. nothing but props for propaganda. the only 'winner' is bushco because it happened at all. the very thought that bushco would allow an honest election in Iraq (see, afghanistan and their US-installed oil puppet) is too silly to consider...i'm sure most DUers support DEMOCRATIC elections... and would prefer starting that process here at home BEFORE we PRETEND to export it.
[The EVIL Bush Regime would NEVER allow free elections. The Perfect Rovian Storm is fiendishly manipulating the Iraqi voters.]
This vote is a PNAC, neo-con, cabal, white house-media, corporate SHAM. If they gave one sxxt about Iraq, they wouldn't have killed 100,000 Iraqis and a smaller per cent of ours and the coalitions and made a mess of the rest of the lives of thousands more.
This election is a fraud. There are no good intentions on the part of the white house media and Halliburton - it is a sham of public relations that is as empty of heart as the proverbial devil him or herself.
I feel nothing but sorrow for the people of Iraq because of the dubious reason for their voting at this time. Today - we had 30+ deaths - now we have 30 days more of curfew - then we'll see how the next 30 number be represented.
Sham. Sham. Sham. Because the U.S. arranged it. I still want to know if the American Iraqis who voted were naturalized citizens of the U.S.? I want to know if any of the Iraqis voting outside of their country were paid or had their expense paid. That is how doubtful I am of the control of the White House and PNAC in this.
Where were the ballots printed - in Iraq - giving someone some business, or in the U.S., or on the copying machine at Halliburton. My apologies to all iraqis who believed in what they were doing. And I hope I'm wrong about the U.S. and media sham of it all. This has got to be the worst day of propaganda that we have ever experienced.
[Somebody out there PLEASE get this quote in front of Rush Limbaugh for tomorrows show. The country needs to hear what the Left REALLY thinks about the Iraq election.]
I'm for free and fair elections. Safe elections. I'm for a decent standard of living for all human beings, and the right to live without a military presence, foreign or domestic, breathing down their necks. Nothing of the sort is involved in these "elections." They're a sham, and the quagmire will continue; today's events don't change anything.
[Back to the days when Saddam Hussein won 99.9% of the vote in free and fair elections.
I am happy for the brave people of Iraq who faced off the insurgents and who had enough nerve to trust the security of their lives in the hands of an occupying force. For sure this was a victory AGAINST the insugents, if not a total victory for the Iraqi people. And that's GOOD thing.
[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
Were this election to be unsuccessful, it may serve to broaden the mainstream U.S. media's debate about "miscalculations" (or deliberate errors, if you prefer) in Bush's overarching strategy - possibly leading to an awakening about the unfeasability of a perpetual "war on terror," which, in the advent of said awakening, might be much more beneficial to Iraqis than this showcase election would ever be.
[A rare moment of DUmmie honesty. This DUmmie wants the election to be UNSUCCESSFUL because it would hurt the Bush administration.]
Damn ....No wonder the Dem Party is rapidly becoming a FRACKIN' fringe group! It makes me weep. I watched people on TV today that had no teeth, some of which had no FREAKIN' legs, crawl to the polling places in Iraq. Dance in line. Give praise to god. I've been, occasionally, crying like a little girl the last hour watching the CNN and BBC election coverage. I thought my vote was precious in November. I didn't give the finger (while the Iraqis, who stained their fingers for easy indentification) to bombs and bombers while I did it. This was a great day. I don't care who's in the Oval. God bless the Iraqi people. GO a democratic Iraq.
[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
Quoting Faye here:
"..waitressing jobs are very demanding. they expect you to work ALL holidays and the expect you drop everything to come in and work when they need you. diners and bar/grill managers are assholes. to most of them you are easily replaceable and they usually won't give you any slack.
besides that, i HATE dealing with the public when it comes to customer service. i'm surprised i never spit in someone's food yet. customers can be such assholes man."
Guessing most customers like getting SERVICE as opposed to anti-Republican vitriol. She's right about one thing: jerks like her ARE easily replaced.
Gee, that stuff makes sense...
That's the DUmmie "Faye" to a tee, sir; everything, all things, at her pleasure and convenience, and to Hades with the needs of anyone else. The world does not rotate on an axis, to which DUmmie "Faye" must adapt; the way she sees it, the world should rotate around.....her.
I was "scouting" DUmmieland earlier today, and found these nuggets, although I am sure P.J. has found better ones.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3029621
in which the DUmmies complain about being duped by Bush, Rove, et al.(being led to hope for bad news, but then good news [to those not DUmmies] happens instead
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3030232
in which the DUmmies complain that nothing blows up in Bushs face
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=164x382
in which the DUmmies allege that a political machine runs Nebraska [huh?]
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3030715
in which the DUmmies fret about secret bar-codes on magazines
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=219x1178
in which the DUmmies complain that Nebraska has abolished spelling-bees (a very peculiar thread, in my opinion; the DUmmies are BASHING the abolishment of EARNING self-esteem; I thought they were all for equal treatment)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x98830
in which the DUmmies discuss the advantages of semi-automatic firearms as opposed to automatic firearms
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x310636
in which the DUmmies opine that Kerry should donate surplus campaign millions to Peter Arnebeck, the male-gendered Bev Harris (special bonus: DUmmie Faye is featured)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1198055
in which the DUmmies disparage the Queen
I don't think I said that right--I meant join us on the right; if you STAY on the LEFT, you will lose your freedom, etc.
Free yourself and move to the right! There, that's better!!
And let's have on: make the terrorists an EXTINCT species!
"DUmmies complain about being duped by Bush, Rove, et al.(being led to hope for bad news, but then good news [to those not DUmmies] happens instead..."
How hard is it to DUpe a complete idiot?
Not very hard at all, sir.
In fact Americans will never stop fighting for right, freedom, and America.
Agreed, sir.
However, your monicker inspires a question, not necessarily related to this thread.
In my lifetime (which has been about 50% spent in Nebraska), I have always noticed that among the veterans, and the ones still in the military services, who were born and raised in Nebraska--a land-locked state, 1500 miles away from any sea-coast--about two-thirds of them were, or are, in the Navy (and the very best of them, in the Marines).
It seems very peculiar, that people born and raised far away from great bodies of water, would prefer a sea-faring duty; might you have any illumination as to why this is, sir?
You are right, there is no fake security worth trading our families and our rights for.
Never give up and never give in.
Semper Fi.
Pro-artificial turf and Pro DH?
How could you?
That goes against everything that is holy!
(How many days until Pitchers and Catchers Report?)
Faye is a real "winner" (or is that whiner?).
While I was trolling there, she would always call me out.
I actually told her I had a split personality and she left me alone.
Yeah, pro-artificial turf and pro-DH. I think both add more offense to the game, and I certainly dispute that they are unholy (I prefer the spearation of church and baseball).
As for how many days until pitchers and catchers report, it's too many as far as I'm concerned. :)
Probably about a year or two after that, I was channel surfing on the radio and accidentally ran across Rush Limbaugh. I usually didn't even listen to AM, but I was just checking to see if there was something interesting on the dial. I don't remember what he was talking about, but... I couldn't believe he was saying the things he was saying "out loud" on the radio. I thought... HOLY COW!! This guy's gonna get tossed for shooting his mouth off about that!
After listening for a while, I just kept thinking... "Damn straight!! He's definitely right about that!" Only took one show to hook me. Someone was finally saying what I thought and I couldn't believe it!
Within the year I figured out that my wife and I were Republicans, changed our registrations and have voted every time ever since! We actually owe our political participation to Rush, if it wasn't for him, I don't know if I would have started to pay attention. Now I listen to everyone and barely ever even listen to music anymore!
15 Days - until P&C Report.
Example (quoted from DUmbass 'patsified' on the DU thread "Iraqi Voter Turnout Placed at 72%"):
"Was this worth destroying the United States of America? Was this worth sending our nation tumbling into the toilet? Was this worth destroying our reputation and the worth of our word in the world? Were the lies worth it? Was this worth the billions and billions of dollars emptied from our nation's treasury? Was the enrichment of Halliburton and the Carlyle Group worth it? Was this worth the bloodshed of soldiers and of innocents? Was it worth losing your arms, little Ali? Was there NO OTHER WAY to have achieved this? Am I supposed to jump up and down and clap and dance and cry for joy that MY nation has been turned into a shitpile and everyone in the world hates MY nation now? There is no democracy here in America, but I am supposed to be overwhelmed with good cheer that it exists for the Iraqis?"
Someone hand me my ipecac, I feel dizzy...
You have a point about the Navy and Marines coming from landlocked states. More Marines come from West VA, Tenn, and Texas than any other states. Many of our best naval heroes also came from interior states like Chester Nimitz from Texas, Joe King from Ohio, and Ray Spruance from Illinois. Perhaps its the desire to travel and see the world.
I myself come from New York thereby hurting your theory slightly. However if you were to ask me what is the main reason someone joins the Marines I'd say its in your blood. I'm a third generation Marine. My grandfather was a Marine as was my father. Further evidence is that two of my sons are also Marines. It's in the genes so maybe guys like me just can't help ourselves.
Or just maybe a guy joins the Marines to fight America's enemies and wants to do it with the best. There's something very satisfying about looking back over my life and thinking of all the tough days I helped give the bad guys.
Thank you, sir.
The other thing I have noticed about Naval and Marine veterans in Nebraska, is that they manage to keep "in shape" far longer than their peers from the other armed services.
Where one usually finds a balding pate, there is a headful of thick, luxurious hair; where one usually finds a protuberant pauch, there is usually a ramrod-straight waistline.
Two of my favorite friends are ex-Marines--they are a couple in their early 60s, but she at least looks no older than circa 35 years--they were both "careerists," and had some sort of "intelligence" positions.
My, my. How and why would anyone develop such a pathetically horrible view of the world?
Hey Marine, thanks for your and your familie's service to America over the years. And PJ, thanks for the FUnnies - I was going through withdrawals!
Well stated -- case in point:
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