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IN VIRGINIA: DOUBLE JEOPARDY FOR SPEEDING
http://www.freemarketnews.com ^ | Jan 25, 2005 | by staff reports

Posted on 01/25/2005 6:32:30 AM PST by FreeMarket1

IN VIRGINIA: DOUBLE JEOPARDY FOR SPEEDING

Jan 25, 2005 - FreeMarketNews.com

by staff reports

FreeMarketNews.Com, Jan. 25, 2005 - A bill has been introduced into the Virginia House of Delegates that would place an additional penalty on motorists who have received speeding tickets. The bill, cosponsored by two Republicans, Thomas Rust and David Albo, would add so-called “abuser fees.”

A driver convicted of exceeding the speed limit by 30 mph in Virginia, would normally pay a fine of $100 with $50 in court costs, and have their license suspended for 90 days. The new plan would levy an additional $750 in fines on the hapless motorist.

Interestingly Albo, in addition to being a legislator, is also a traffic ticket attorney. The National Motorist Association comments on what would seem to be a clear-cut case of self interest, as opposed to public safety, in regard to his efforts. They state:

“If this measure passes, it will certainly be a win-win for him. When it comes time for re-election, he can claim that he stood.........Full Article www.FreeMarketNews.com


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To: FreeMarket1

I just called his office and told him I would vote for a yellow-dog Democrat before I would ever vote for him again, he's just another ambulance-chasing parasite and boil on the backside of state government.


41 posted on 01/25/2005 7:32:17 AM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: FreeMarket1

This wouldn't be a bad idea if speed limits were set reasonably. 30 miles per hour over whatever the safe and reasonable speed for a given piece of road is is genuinely dangerous, and should be strongly discouraged.

In the real world where speed limits are universally set so low that they are ignored by everybody, this is just revenue enhancement.


42 posted on 01/25/2005 7:36:12 AM PST by CGTRWK
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To: general_re
Sounds simple enough, but allow me to attest that not speeding here in NoVA is a good way to get squashed like a bug.

I know, I know. I used to live there. If you "go with the flow" you will end up going about 10-15 mph above the speed limit. I've driven in bumper-to-bumper traffic. I've driven in extremely fast traffic. But only on I-95 and I-495 have I driven in extremely fast bumper-to-bumper traffic inches (literally!) from each other at 80 (or more) mph.

43 posted on 01/25/2005 7:51:13 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreeMarket1

I am so sick of new laws...and attorneys....and politicians...and Michael Moore...and Katie Couric...and Rap...and...


45 posted on 01/25/2005 7:59:24 AM PST by DCPatriot (I don't do politically correct very well either.)
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To: geege
I was clocked over 80
Most of the time, if traffic is moving at all, you have to do about 80-85 to keep from getting run over!
Thanks for the heads up.
46 posted on 01/25/2005 8:01:38 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: FreedomCalls

At least the threshold is relatively high for now, I suppose. Going with the flow on 66, when we're all moving nicely, usually means about 70-75 in a 55. Still, as soon as legislators start feeling like they're digging for nickels in the couch cushions, look for it to be lowered, and then they can catch everyone.


47 posted on 01/25/2005 8:12:26 AM PST by general_re (How come so many of the VKs have been here six months or less?)
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To: muawiyah
the Asian woman in the left lane is probably going to exit the Interstate ON THE LEFT.

Someone please explain to me why Asian women can't drive.

48 posted on 01/25/2005 8:13:28 AM PST by Capriole (the Luddite hypocritically clicking away on her computer)
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To: FreeMarket1; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; AdSimp; society-by-contract; ...

Richmond ping.


49 posted on 01/25/2005 8:28:02 AM PST by iceskater (The UN Oil for Food scandal has cost our troops their lives. Time for Kofi to go.)
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To: FreeMarket1; iceskater

ssssiiiiigh


50 posted on 01/25/2005 8:43:12 AM PST by Flora McDonald (Stand the Storm!)
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To: FreedomCalls

Everytime we have gone there recently, we have been lucky to be able to drive 10mph. Talk about frustrating! I hate to drive anywhere near DC. Either the traffic is bumper to bumper due to someone smashing another driver like a bug, OR they are doing some road construction and have shut down six lanes and left one open. OR both, leaving no lanes for driving 5mph.


51 posted on 01/25/2005 8:52:28 AM PST by petitfour
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To: Capriole
Please notice, the Asian woman driving on the left is doing so in conformance with all legal standards and requirements.

You, on the other hand, would like to "dive bomb" her, but you are, alas, unfamiliar with the technique of moving in from the right at a high rate of speed.

This has frustrated you so much you have now generalized your anger to a class of people, not just to an individual.

Unfortunately for you, she knows all about the 2ND Amendment, and how to use a cellphone ~ both at the same time, and she's close enough to the floor to steer with her knees.

You'd best watch out for yourself buster.

52 posted on 01/25/2005 9:13:03 AM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent civilization time)
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To: iceskater

Yep! The second ticket would call for a lawyer.


53 posted on 01/25/2005 9:23:28 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: mewzilla
The law is not intended to be a tool for personal vengeance.

In Tennessee, school-zone speed limits are 15MPH, in many states they are much higher; surely one must be better than the other or, on balance, the margin is statistically meaningless.

I don't drive very much and I never speed, but some laws are dumb.

54 posted on 01/25/2005 9:25:12 AM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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To: Old Professer

It's not about vengeance. It's about safety. Vengeance won't bring out family member back. I'd just be happier knowing that fewer families were going through what we did.


55 posted on 01/25/2005 9:27:56 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: muawiyah

The real problem with exits has nothing to do with Asian women. A certain percentage of drivers will slow down to about 10 mph below the limit as much as two miles before the exit. And yet there are still a few that will miss the exit, and then drive in reverse on the shoulder trying to get back to where they should have turned.


56 posted on 01/25/2005 9:31:39 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Where does bandwidth go when it is wasted?)
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To: mewzilla

The person who was driving 30 mph over the posted speed limit was "speeding," he/she was "driving recklessly." This kind of person should not be taxed into oblivion . . . they should have their driving privileges revoked permanently.


57 posted on 01/25/2005 9:38:53 AM PST by Alberta's Child (It could be worse . . . I could've missed my calling.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Sorry -- I meant to say this person was NOT "speeding" . . .
58 posted on 01/25/2005 9:42:33 AM PST by Alberta's Child (It could be worse . . . I could've missed my calling.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Let's just say he had a golden get-out-jail-free card. And I'll agree with you about having their driving privileges revoked upon conviction. But that's not likely to happen since most voters speed, most lawmakers speed, and most of the folks who sit on juries speed. Pity they don't spare a moment for the thought that there but for the grace of God go they.
59 posted on 01/25/2005 9:42:37 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: finallyatexan
..however, isn't this like double jeopardy(?)

At first glance it would seem that way. However, in civil cases or in the case of a misdemeanor, the Constitutional protection against double jeopardy would seem not to apply.

5th Amendment: No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous, crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service, in time of war, or public danger; nor shall any person be subject, for the same offence, to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb...

60 posted on 01/25/2005 9:48:00 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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