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Boxer Busted on Iraq Lie During Condi Confirmation Hearings
www.crushkerry.com (soon to be www.anklebitingpundits.com) ^ | 1/19/05 | www.crushkerry.com (soon to be www.anklebitingpundits.com)

Posted on 01/19/2005 5:36:11 AM PST by crushkerry

The big news today was Michael Moore's favorite Senator Barbara Boxer taking aim at Condi Rice's credibility at today's confirmation hearings. You can go here to read the entire transcript of the exchange. Frankly, these confirmation hearings strike us as a colossal waste of time. Rather than actually question the nominee windbag Senators like Babs go on over the allotted time limit and ask one question. The rest of the time is spent filibustering and hearing themselves bloviate (see especially Biden, Joe).

What was perhaps most infuriating about Boxer's pissy little tirade was that she cited a movie by a hate America lefty called Fog of War as if it were gospel, and had the unmitigated gall to basically call Condi a liar on Iraq. This from a woman who defended Bill Clinton during the Lewinsky matter. True to here nature as nobody's fool, Condi shot back with a wonderful defense of the Iraq war that Boxer, one of the Senate's dimmest bulbs (and that's saying something), probably didn't understand because Condi used words over 2 syllables.

However, in her harangue against everything about President Bush and Iraq, Boxer made a statement that was patently false. Even worse, it's easy to prove as such. And we're not talking about a lie on a little thing either. This is something you have to see, and we're sure won't be reported in the mainstream press, but hey, that's why you have people like us, right?

After Condi had so brilliantly and passionately defended the Iraq war, and the reasoning for it that included cites to reasons other than WMD's, half-wit Boxer smugly made this astounding statement:

BOXER: Well, you should read what we voted on when we voted to support the war, which I did not, but most of my colleagues did. It was WMD, period. That was the reason and the causation for that, you know, particular vote.

In trying to make a point that Condi's own words proved she's a liar Boxer became the proverbial Polish firing squad. (Save the emails Poles, as you probably call it an Italian firing squad, or the Irish call it a "British firing squad). Her very specific words state flatly that the presence of WMD's was the sole reason given in the legislation authorizing the Iraq war.

The only problem for Boxer is that the internet exists, and we can go back and read, and link to, the actual text of the resolution. As you can see we just linked to it, but feel it is important to lay the text of the findings in the actual resolution, with the important parts highlighted. It reads as follows:

Joint Resolution

To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.

Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war of aggression against and illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition of nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the national security of the United States and enforce United Nations Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq;

Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into a United Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to which Iraq unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver and develop them, and to end its support for international terrorism;

Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United States intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery that Iraq had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and a large scale biological weapons program, and that Iraq had an advanced nuclear weapons development program that was much closer to producing a nuclear weapon than intelligence reporting had previously indicated; Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire, attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify and destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and development capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors from Iraq on October 31, 1998;

Whereas in Public Law 105-235 (August 14, 1998), Congress concluded that Iraq's continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threatened vital United States interests and international peace and security, declared Iraq to be in `material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations' and urged the President `to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its international obligations';

Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolution of the United Nations Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its civilian population thereby threatening international peace and security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or account for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an American serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully seized by Iraq from Kuwait;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;

Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of United States citizens;

Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001, underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend itself;

Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) authorizes the use of all necessary means to enforce United Nations Security Council Resolution 660 (1990) and subsequent relevant resolutions and to compel Iraq to cease certain activities that threaten international peace and security, including the development of weapons of mass destruction and refusal or obstruction of United Nations weapons inspections in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 (1991), repression of its civilian population in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 (1991), and threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations in Iraq in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 949 (1994);

Whereas in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1), Congress has authorized the President `to use United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve implementation of Security Council Resolution 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and 677';

Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it `supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent with the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1),' that Iraq's repression of its civilian population violates United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 and `constitutes a continuing threat to the peace, security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region,' and that Congress, `supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688';

Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime;

Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the United States to `work with the United Nations Security Council to meet our common challenge' posed by Iraq and to `work for the necessary resolutions,' while also making clear that `the Security Council resolutions will be enforced, and the just demands of peace and security will be met, or action will be unavoidable';

Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it is in the national security interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use of force if necessary;

Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on terrorism through the provision of authorities and funding requested by the President to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue to take all appropriate actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to take action in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States, as Congress recognized in the joint resolution on Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40); and

Whereas it is in the national security interests of the United States to restore international peace and security to the Persian Gulf region: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

Hmm, we might not be California Senators or math majors here at Crushkerry.com but we think Boxer should "read what they voted on", because going through the above we found at least 7 reasons (and we could say more, if one counts "enforcing the UN Security Council Resolutions as non-WMD reason, but we won't), separate and distinct from WMD's cited in the Resolution. Since Boxer (and judging from some of the comments in our stories and forums, left-wing Kos's Kool Aid Drinkers) are unable to read, we're going to make it simple and re-list them here, in case the missed them the first time:

1. Iraq's harboring of Al-Queda terrorists
2. Iraq's support for International Terrorism
3. Iraq's "brutal repression" of its citizens
4. Iraq's failure to repatriate or give information on non-Iraqi citizens detained and captured during Gulf War I, including an American serviceman;
5. Failing to properly return property wrongfully seized during the Kuwait invasion
6. The attempted assassination of former President Bush in 1993
7. America's national security interests in restoring peace and stability to the Persian Gulf

Maybe if Boxer actually went back and read the text of the legislation proposed on such an important issue (you will recall her patron Michael Moore complaining about just that in his fictional America-hating documentary Fahrenheit 9/11) she just might have voted for the war. Yeah right.

But if nothing else this episode shows the lies the far left moon bats are willing to float in order to smear the President and undermine the war effort. Hell, it used to be that Democrats would be smart enough not to lie about things so easily rebutted. But alas, their party is in a position where they can't even lie right anymore.

Oh, and one more thing Senator. Spare us your feigned concern for the troops. Your hatred of this President and the war is so transparent that it is damn near offensive for you to put on the false front of "supporting the troops". What you're doing with your lies is undermining their mission. Honest disagreement is one thing, but your foolishness and bile are certainly playing right into the hands of our enemies - foreign and domestic.


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Comment #81 Removed by Moderator

To: crushkerry
BOXER: Well, you should read what we voted on when we voted to support the war, which I did not, but most of my colleagues did...

Her own words prove that she doesn't know what she's talking about.

82 posted on 01/19/2005 6:29:54 AM PST by rllngrk33 (The Legacy Media is the propaganda wing of the Democratic Party.)
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To: crushkerry
and by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security Council;

Just a question, but how come you left this out as one of your seven reasons for going to war. It seems to me it is the most important reason because it is unassailable. No one disputes that Hussein was routinely firing missiles at our pilots and presumably no rational person would dispute the fact that firing missiles at our pilots constitutes an act of war that had to responded to in order to eliminate the threat (i.e. Hussein).

83 posted on 01/19/2005 6:29:54 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: mariabush

Coleman was terrific in standing up to Kerry and Dodd. Absolutely outstanding.


84 posted on 01/19/2005 6:31:00 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: mdhunter; cyncooper
Like any legal document (and I have drafted many of them), the "Wherefore" clauses are included in the text for a reason. They explain and lay the background for the text that follows, and which you cite.

You'll notice that the text of the resolution you cite contains no specifics as to WMD's. It talks about "the national security of the United States", which is a very general term that is explained in detail in the "Wherefore" clauses. When you look to Congressional intent in legal cases, you don't just look at the text, but at the legislative history, and that's what the "WHEREFORE" clauses are.

And the point here is that the "WMD, period" language used by Boxer in the confirmation hearings is not used in the text but in the 'Wherefore" clauses. Had the text you cite specifically mentioned WMD's you would have a better point, but the fact remains that WMD's are mentioned only in the "Wherefore" clauses, along with many other reason cited in my piece.

85 posted on 01/19/2005 6:31:02 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: crushkerry

Great info! Bumping for reading at my leisure, later. :)


86 posted on 01/19/2005 6:31:35 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: mdhunter
Righttt.. and Clinton was never impeached because he was never removed from office... right?
87 posted on 01/19/2005 6:32:46 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Just say no to the ACLU!)
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To: mdhunter

You sound like a criminal defense lawyer for Hussein. Do you dispute that A) Hussein was routinely firing missiles at our pilots; B) that that reason is listed in the Iraq War Resolution as one of the grounds for going to war that Congress approved; and C) firing missiles at another country's pilots constitutes an act of war which the country being attacked is entitled to respond to?


88 posted on 01/19/2005 6:33:17 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: crushkerry
I am so sorry that Botox Boxer and Botox Skerry are from the United States.

89 posted on 01/19/2005 6:34:21 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Jan. 20, 2005 - - - - The biggest nightmare for the MSM and DU.)
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To: vbmoneyspender

See my reply #85


90 posted on 01/19/2005 6:36:27 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: crushkerry

Reports like this is the reason I love you guys :)

Rock on!!


92 posted on 01/19/2005 6:37:46 AM PST by backinthefold ( Ever stop to think, and forget to start again?)
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To: mdhunter

If you cannot discern from where the documentation of my refutation of your absurd contention stems, what can I say?

The rest of us understand plain English and the context of Boxer's statements and implied accusations directed to Rice are summed up correctly at the top of the thread, contrary to your post.


93 posted on 01/19/2005 6:37:57 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: crushkerry
Boxer suffers a DSM-IV severe Axis II Personality Disorder, with Narcissistic, Hystrionic, and Antisocial prominant features.

In layman's terms she is an evil deceitful hissy-fit drama queen monster. AND a major poster girl for bad Botox results.

94 posted on 01/19/2005 6:41:16 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: 2banana

If you are thinking that the only reason for going into Irac is that you will find a big pile of WMD, you have to be retarded.


95 posted on 01/19/2005 6:41:16 AM PST by Big Horn (Rummy has done a great job.)
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To: cyncooper
You are right. His greeting to Kerry was great.
96 posted on 01/19/2005 6:42:21 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: backinthefold

Thanks, but as I just emailed to my writing partner Pat Hynes, it's amazing (well, not really) that the MSM doesn't do this stuff. It took me 5 minutes to do the "research" and 45 minutes to write the piece, and about 10 minutes of that was the html coding. It truly is a new world we live in.


97 posted on 01/19/2005 6:43:18 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: mariabush

And Kerry had just said that foreign leaders wanted to help the U.S. and their help was being rebuffed. Rice refuted some of that (she wasn't aware of offers to help, if they wanted to help they only need say so, etc) but Kerry also had cited India and Coleman directly stated he had personally visited that area recently and the PM of India stated that relations between the U.S. and India have never been better.

Heads up, all, Boxer is LIVE now, "questioning" Dr. Rice.


99 posted on 01/19/2005 6:45:06 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: crushkerry

also here as you know

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1323591/posts


100 posted on 01/19/2005 6:46:30 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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