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To: Jon Alvarez; Long Cut; Pukin Dog; BlueLancer; Constitution Day; Steel Wolf; hchutch; CheneyChick
Graner's actions violated US Army orders, were part of a pattern of sadistic treatment towards prisoners in his charge (he was fired from a civilian prison guard position and "voluntarily" left at least one other such post for similar antics), and were contrary to the good order and discipline of the Armed Forces of the United States.

This article uses as its line of departure several "facts" that are not congruent with reality. I would suggest that the author read the Taguba Report for a better understanding of the events at Abu Ghraib Prison.

(An aside: when did "ignorant bloviating" become "a point of view?")

I find it fascinating that "conservatives" are advocating the notion that the American military should excuse, tolerate, and promote indiscipline within the ranks.

3 posted on 01/17/2005 10:43:42 AM PST by Poohbah (God must love fools. He makes so many of them...)
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To: Poohbah

He will not stay at Leavenworth for 10 years. They have parole too.
He should have shut up and taken an Article 15; not given his parents, NYT and CBS the pictures to try and get off the hook. Garner deserves his sentence for stupidity, thinking he could weasel his way from justice.

This idiot was a prison guard in his civilian life and thought he has free rein during midshifts.

I agree Poobah


6 posted on 01/17/2005 10:50:32 AM PST by axes_of_weezles
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To: Poohbah
{I find it fascinating that "conservatives" are advocating the notion that the American military should excuse, tolerate, and promote indiscipline within the ranks.}

Worth repeating.

These scattershot protestations against the military's own rules being applied to Graner couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. They are all over the place, and they sound looney and desperate. If these ever were true Conservatives, they have become as unhinged as the Left in this country.

13 posted on 01/17/2005 11:00:37 AM PST by txrangerette
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To: Poohbah

No need for me to respond -- you said it much better than I could.


16 posted on 01/17/2005 11:02:37 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Poohbah
I find it fascinating that "conservatives" are advocating the notion that the American military should excuse, tolerate, and promote indiscipline within the ranks.


bump (Garner is a sick, demented POS)

23 posted on 01/17/2005 11:21:31 AM PST by society-by-contract
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To: Poohbah

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1158696&mesg_id=1158713&page=

wow, the folks at DU agree with you...amazing how liberals are so quick to throw our troops under the bus.

Kinda reminds me of their stance against this war...he'd still be filling mass graves.

Saddam wasn't so bad after all...LOL

I wonder how much key info Graner and Co. pulled out of these terrorists? How many American lives were saved?


29 posted on 01/17/2005 1:07:15 PM PST by Jon Alvarez
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