About Those Un-Armored Humvees

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[milltech]

Rightwingnews.com asks was the un-armored Humvee story a hoax?

[SE Mom]

Shadows...mysteries...agendas..liberals twisting the truth. It's just all too much sometimes.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

About Those Un-Armored Humvees

This press conference by Major General Stephen Speakes and several other officers, which took place on Wednesday, is worth reading in its entirety. The purpose of the press conference was to address the issue of "un-armored" vehicles that was raised by a National Guardsman in a question directed to Donald Rumsfeld a week or so ago. The overall impression I get is that the Army is responding appropriately to the risks posed by improvised explosive devices, and there is basically no story here.

The facts regarding the Guardsman's own unit also appear to be quite different from what has been reported:

The first point is that you'll recollect that one of the questions was the status of the 278 ACR; in other words, the date that we had the visit by the secretary of Defense, we had a question about their up-armoring status. When the question was asked, 20 vehicles remained to be up-armored at that point. We completed those 20 vehicles in the next day. And so over 800 vehicles from the 278 ACR were up-armored, and they are a part now of their total force that is operating up in Iraq.

Q On the 278th, can you repeat this? At the time the question was asked, the planted question, the unit had 784 of its 804 vehicles armored?

GEN. SPEAKES: Here is the overall solution that you see. And what we've had to do is -- the theater had to take care of 830 total vehicles. So this shows you the calculus that was used. Up north in Iraq, they drew 119 up-armored humvees from what we call stay-behind equipment. That is equipment from a force that was already up there. We went ahead and applied 38 add-on armor kits to piece of equipment they deployed over on a ship. They also had down in Kuwait 214 stay- behind equipment pieces that were add-on armor kits. And then over here they had 459 pieces of equipment that were given level-three protection. And so when you put all this together, that comes up with 830.

Q At the time of the question -- summarize this, now -- that unit that the kid was complaining about was mostly armored?

GEN. SPEAKES: Yes. In other words, we completed all the armoring within 24 hours of the time the question was asked.

Q If he hadn't asked that question, would the up-armoring have been accomplished within 24 hours?

GEN. SPEAKES: Yes. This was already an existing program.

It is remarkable that many Democrats are demanding that Rumsfeld resign over this teapot tempest.

Thanks to reader Evert Visser for the link.

UPDATE: A day late and a dollar short as usual, the Dems have jumped on the armor hoax with both feet.

[Anti-Bubba182]

"..Q At the time of the question -- summarize this, now -- that unit that the kid was complaining about was mostly armored?

GEN. SPEAKES: Yes. In other words, we completed all the armoring within 24 hours of the time the question was asked.

Q If he hadn't asked that question, would the up-armoring have been accomplished within 24 hours?

GEN. SPEAKES: Yes. This was already an existing program..."

Not any play in MSM, not that that suprises me.

[Mo1]

Not any play in MSM, not that that suprises me.

Some Freepers have know about this for days

Also .. those Republican Senators (IMO) are in a major CYA mode too

[Anti-Bubba182]

Yep, it stinks about the GOP Senators.

[Grampa Dave]

Thank you sir.


This is great!

"About Those Un-Armored Humvees

This press conference by Major General Stephen Speakes and several other officers, which took place on Wednesday, is worth reading in its entirety. The purpose of the press conference was to address the issue of "un-armored" vehicles that was raised by a National Guardsman in a question directed to Donald Rumsfeld a week or so ago. The overall impression I get is that the Army is responding appropriately to the risks posed by improvised explosive devices, and there is basically no story here.

The facts regarding the Guardsman's own unit also appear to be quite different from what has been reported:

The first point is that you'll recollect that one of the questions was the status of the 278 ACR; in other words, the date that we had the visit by the secretary of Defense, we had a question about their up-armoring status. When the question was asked, 20 vehicles remained to be up-armored at that point. We completed those 20 vehicles in the next day. And so over 800 vehicles from the 278 ACR were up-armored, and they are a part now of their total force that is operating up in Iraq.
Q On the 278th, can you repeat this? At the time the question was asked, the planted question, the unit had 784 of its 804 vehicles armored?

GEN. SPEAKES: Here is the overall solution that you see. And what we've had to do is -- the theater had to take care of 830 total vehicles. So this shows you the calculus that was used. Up north in Iraq, they drew 119 up-armored humvees from what we call stay-behind equipment. That is equipment from a force that was already up there. We went ahead and applied 38 add-on armor kits to piece of equipment they deployed over on a ship. They also had down in Kuwait 214 stay- behind equipment pieces that were add-on armor kits. And then over here they had 459 pieces of equipment that were given level-three protection. And so when you put all this together, that comes up with 830.

Q At the time of the question -- summarize this, now -- that unit that the kid was complaining about was mostly armored?

GEN. SPEAKES: Yes. In other words, we completed all the armoring within 24 hours of the time the question was asked.

Q If he hadn't asked that question, would the up-armoring have been accomplished within 24 hours?

GEN. SPEAKES: Yes. This was already an existing program.


It is remarkable that many Democrats are demanding that Rumsfeld resign over this teapot tempest.

Thanks to reader Evert Visser for the link.

UPDATE: A day late and a dollar short as usual, the Dems have jumped on the armor hoax with both feet.

[MeekOneGOP]

About Those Un-Armored Humvees

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Excerpt:

Q At the time of the question -- summarize this, now -- that unit that the kid was complaining about was mostly armored?

GEN. SPEAKES: Yes. In other words, we completed all the armoring within 24 hours of the time the question was asked.

Q If he hadn't asked that question, would the up-armoring have been accomplished within 24 hours?

GEN. SPEAKES: Yes. This was already an existing program.

It is remarkable that many Democrats are demanding that Rumsfeld resign over this teapot tempest.

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It figures!

Well at least now we know that the media will happily report that these Humvees are now upgraded!!!

< /sarcasm >

I'm not holding my breath!

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[MeekOneGOP]

I wonder what the Rummy Trolls will have to say about this? ha! :^)

[Grampa Dave]

The trolls suffering from Rummy Phobia have a new concern. They have found out "Rumsfeld Failed to Lick Stamps on GI Death Letters"!

http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/001991.html

December 20, 2004

Rumsfeld Failed to Lick Stamps on GI Death Letters
by Scott Ott

(2004-12-20) -- Forensic DNA testing has revealed that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld did not personally lick postage stamps on letters to families of troops killed in Iraq.

"We're still looking for a positive DNA match on the stamp saliva," said an aide to Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-NE. "We've asked to swab the cheeks of dozens of Pentagon office staffers."

This new evidence of Mr. Rumsfeld's psychological detachment from the war in Iraq follows his admission that letters he wrote to families of soldiers and Marines included a facsimile of his signature, rather than a unique one done with his own hand each time.

Mr. Hagel could not be reached for comment, the aide said, because "the senator is busy handwriting a news release on the topic."

[Travis McGee]

Rummyphobia affects their brains.

[MeekOneGOP]

Rumsfeld Failed to Lick Stamps on GI Death Letters

OMG! That does it! Rumsfeld HAS to go!!

he said, doing his best a$$guard impersonation. :^)

[MeekOneGOP]

That is funny! :^D

[Squantos]

If all these friggin dogooders would focus their hate and anger on the real enemy this fight would have been over in a week. Criminal how they use GI's lives to push their own agenda against the GOP. Let America and a free Iraq win and bring our troops home.

On a side note, I wish that Rummy and GW would tell the RAT's to phucov (yes thats russian) and get it done to save lives. Quit playing the socialists MSM-PC game.......

[Grampa Dave]

If all these friggin dogooders would focus their hate and anger on the real enemy this fight would have been over in a week. Criminal how they use GI's lives to push their own agenda against the GOP. Let America and a free Iraq win and bring our troops home.

The Rabid Rummy Phobics are card carrying members of the Axis of Whining Weasels!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

LOL!

Nice Graphic!

[bitt]

thanks for ping and alert!