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Erie County NY Meltdown: Sign of a Wider Catastrophe in NYS?
Nancy Naples, Erie County Controller ^ | December 8, 2004 | Eleni121

Posted on 12/08/2004 2:30:42 PM PST by eleni121

Nancy Naples warned everyone about the coming meltdown of Erie County. This self destructive process is spreading all over the state while the Nero-like Democrats and RINOS in Albany sit around and play their fiddles and raising the minimum wage and every other tax they can get their hands on thus forcing even more businesses to leave the state. Are there any solutions? I cannot for the life of me see any.

The exodus continues...Liberals have destroyed this state in my lifetime.


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Would the last person out please turn off the lights?

It's going to be a long hard and dangerous winter.

1 posted on 12/08/2004 2:30:43 PM PST by eleni121
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To: eleni121

BUMP to all concerned WNY Freepers and friends.


2 posted on 12/08/2004 2:31:35 PM PST by eleni121
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To: The Mayor; birdsman; Victoria Delsoul; nicmarlo; deadhead; DollyCali; eleni121; rocky88; Mr. K; ...

BUMP for your input.


3 posted on 12/08/2004 2:32:19 PM PST by eleni121
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To: NYer

Ping


4 posted on 12/08/2004 2:33:21 PM PST by eastsider
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To: eleni121

Looks like Spitzer is going to have a backlash to deal with. I just wonder whether it's going to be before the election or afterward.


5 posted on 12/08/2004 2:34:13 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: eleni121

There was a time when Horace Greely wrote, "Go West, young man" about economic opportunity. It is relevant still today...those fleeing socialism on the east coast will have to seek opportunity inland.


6 posted on 12/08/2004 2:37:34 PM PST by blanknoone (The two big battles left in the War on Terror are against our State dept and our media.)
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To: Brilliant

I honestly don't know. I think most conservatives are fed up (rightfuly or wrongly mostly rightly) with Pataki, nominally a Republican. This should make it easier for any Demorat to get in.

Spitzer, conniver that he is, presents himself as an outsider: muckraker bla bla, mostly for show.


Really, the state is controlled by the unions and those who work on the public dole. They wil vote for whomever their bosses tell them to.


7 posted on 12/08/2004 2:39:19 PM PST by eleni121
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To: blanknoone

Of course. That is already happening. NYS comes first in the nation in outmigration.

It happened in the early 1800s for other reasons...it's happening again.


8 posted on 12/08/2004 2:40:49 PM PST by eleni121
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To: eleni121

County legislators with separate staffed offices in fifteen districts???????? In West Virginia, the legislature is currently considering legislation to allow governments including counties to merge to hold down costs.


9 posted on 12/08/2004 2:40:54 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: eleni121

I would have loved to remain in western NY state - where I am from.

Too bad NYC domination taxed the state to death.


10 posted on 12/08/2004 2:44:00 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: meatloaf

That's ony the half of it...Legislators also have slush funds to the tune for a couple hundred thou to spend on pet projects. The County Executive (a pubbie) has been heroically attepting to merge sevices to cut costs... no one is willing to give the perks...especially the unions who would stabd to lose jobs.

Corruption rules in this county...really this state.


11 posted on 12/08/2004 2:45:35 PM PST by eleni121
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To: Notwithstanding

"Too bad NYC domination taxed the state to death."

That is it in a nutshell but it's also the Republican girlie men from upstate who refuse to stand up to them, who in many cases agree with the redistribution of wealth.


12 posted on 12/08/2004 2:47:31 PM PST by eleni121
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To: eleni121
and raising the minimum wage

Minimum wage laws cause unemployment.

13 posted on 12/08/2004 2:49:04 PM PST by FreeKeys ("There ain't no such thing as a free lunch." (TANSTAAFL) -- Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: eleni121

Everybody needs to stop whining...you still got the Bills. And, it appears, you still get the bill, the tax bill, that is.


14 posted on 12/08/2004 2:51:25 PM PST by tenthirteen
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To: eleni121
Nancy Naples was as much a part of the problem as anyone else.

Erie County is as corrupt as they come. Under her watch as comptroller, the County Executive turned the county government into a "friends-and-family-of-Joel-Giambra" jobs program.

And now they want to raise sales tax to 9.25%?

They're all crooks.

15 posted on 12/08/2004 2:52:24 PM PST by jude24 (sola gratia)
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I left two years ago, my parents are still in Buffalo (well they just moved to Hamburg but its still in Erie). My wife left to visit them from our home in Minnesota and she called to thank me for taking my family to a state that actully knows how to budget..


16 posted on 12/08/2004 2:54:09 PM PST by N3WBI3
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Well, look at it this way; some of these counties with legislatures (Nassau and Suffolk) with 19 legislators have nearly as many people as West Virginia!

Those county governments are ratholes of patronage, though.


17 posted on 12/08/2004 2:55:39 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: eleni121
It looks like a RED budget for Erie County. If any R rolls over to the Dem's, and it takes 2 of them to raise the sales tax, they will become the topic of controversy.

If it stays a red budget, the situation of the county shutting down for the most part, will bring national attention and embarrassment to Albany!

With any hope, talk of Medicaid reform may sprout from this scorched earth state!
18 posted on 12/08/2004 2:57:20 PM PST by NYTexan
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I u sed to work for the county- I never suspected the situation is as bad- and trust me, it is worse than you think.

We had TOTALLY INCOMPETANT people running an entire department spening millions of dollars. One software programmer did not know how to write software- and he was in a management position.

Another database administrator could not do the simplest of database tasks.

Many software projects INCLUDING projects that were already finished and working were contracted out to be written again, all contracts were givent to the same company that over and over again, when it has failed to deliver on any system.

One project costing $250,000 was awarded to a company to do essentially 4 HOURS of work (moving data from one table to another)



19 posted on 12/08/2004 2:57:25 PM PST by Mr. K ((this space for rent))
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and raising the minimum wage.

Which was done for one an only one reason, and which has nothing to due with improving the quality of life for low income workers. Why, you ask? Because NYS is facing a 4 to 8 billion dollar deficit next year. It can no longer close the gap by borrowing against the tobacco settlement, or selling the state owned assets such as prisons and state highways to the Dormitory Authority and Thruway Authority. By raising the minimum wage, the State will see a short term spike in revenues from employee income taxes, employer payroll taxes, and higher sales tax revenues when business raise the cost of goods and services to pass the cost of the minimum wage increase to the consumer. Of course revenues will drop two years from now as businesses flee the state, but out politician Dem and Pub alike can't see past yesterday.

20 posted on 12/08/2004 3:04:31 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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