[Agitate]

ping?

[Mikey_1962]

I am from a mixed marriage too:

North Ireland and The Republic of Ireland.

[EdReform]

Ping

[Da Bilge Troll]

Black people do not have to "come out of the closet" for people to know that they are black. Gay marriage is not a civil-rights issue the way race is for that reason.

[Noachian]

The right to adopt.

This is the part that gets to me.

If a guy whats to screw up his life, OK, but why bring kids into his weird life?

These children have no say in what family they're brought into, and unlike the homosexuals who adopt them, the children are "not consenting adults".

In effect, children adopted by homosexuals are little more than "pets" that only serve the pleasure of the homosexual parents. When these homosexual "parents" divorce, as they generally do, who takes care of the children while the now divorced "parents" are scouting out new partners?

[MadAnthony1776]

Another attempt by a small minority to dictate what the majority must do. I don't approve of homosexuality and the Bible also condemns it. So for someone to try and ram sin down my throat and tell me I have to enjoy it is wrong. I won't tolerate it. It's sin and it just burns me what they try to do. To compare it to mixed marriages is a real stretch and is a real injustice.

[atomicpossum]

The racial issue is a sham, simply because a male is a male and a female is a female. The gay marriage proponents want to change the traditional definition of marriage by making it sex neutral. Racial differences are cosmetic-- differences between the sexes are structural and sociologically fundamental.

The single truth in this debate that no one seems to point out is that marriage, as a social contract, is not between two people, it is between two people and everybody else. All the rights the individual above claims are rights not between the two married individuals, but rights of recogition required by the rest of society. This is why the 'private behavior' argument does not work-- this is demanding the recognition and accomodation, and therefore complicity, of everyone else. Any legislation or judicial edict instituting gay marriage is not to change the behavior of the couple in question, it is to change the behavior of everyone else in society.

[Servant of the 9]

the minor physical characteristics which make us look different; melanin in the skin, bone structure, hair follicle shape, etc--are all physical, observable characteristics that are immutable. Conversely, there is no gay gene!

Does that mean racially mixed marriages are worse than Gay Marriages?

So9

[little jeremiah]

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Interesting dicussion. Couple points: There really isn't a 50% failure rate for marriage. And by marriage, I mean of course one man and one woman. Secularists for some reason want to make everyone think that marriage is kaput, finished, on its way out. (Except for "gay" marriage. No rationality here.) The fact is, that of ALL marriages, the latest rates I've seen are the 50% end in divorce. BUT - the secret is, that out of those which end in divorce, a goodly share are - get this - RE-MARRIAGES. IOW, when someone divorces, and then remarries, and then divorces again, this is two divorces and two marriages. But for the same person. Additionally, it's also a fact that divorcees when remarrying divorce again at a higher rate.

So, the point is that out of people who marry for the first time, there is a higher success rate (meaning staying together) than 50%. I don't know exact figures; if anyone does, ping me.

It's also worth noting that every single one of the legal benefits or arrangements that homosexuals supposedly want "marriage" for, can be done without any "marriage". There are attorneys galore, paralegals, do it yourself legal forms and books. All can be done without faux same sex "marriage".

Let me and ItsOurTimeNow know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.

[JesseHousman]

I'm a German and married an Englishwoman.

My oldest daughter married a Filipino.

That is the most ignorant thing I have read this week on this site!

Homosexuals are deviant, perverts!

[ArGee]

It doesn't make sense that they push so hard for marriage and at the same time justify their position by belittling it.

Bingo.

Shalom.

[ArGee]

The right to be see a dying loved one in the hospital, though they're not a "blood relative".

Confusion, misdirection, and emotionalism.

There were lots of people who loved my father. Only a few of them were his family. Only one of them was his lover - his wive of over 50 years. Gays confuse love with sex and both with marriage, then want to claim victim status because a man's latest "partner" can't be treated like his wife.

Hint to gays. Everything isn't about sex. If you knew that, you wouldn't identify yourself primarly by your fetish.

Shalom.

[JesseHousman]

The right to be see a dying loved one in the hospital,...

Perhaps the "loved one" doesn't want to see his "better half" because the realization has finally sunk in as to why he's dying.

Shoving one's pee-pee into another's anus is just not moral. These homosexuals probably brush their teeth carefully and floss before crawling into bed and shoving their face up their bunkmate's bung!

These people are so damned evil that it was inconceivable to me how the PC crowd could wish "marriages" blessed between these sodomists in order that they could adopt children and go to PTA meetings!

Just damn!