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1 posted on 11/29/2004 5:32:51 PM PST by TapTheSource
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ping!


2 posted on 11/29/2004 5:33:37 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

Zounds! Is Gorbechev still in residence in the Presidio?
That !@#$%^&*()_+&*^$(@!!!!! I knew Perestroika was a sham!


4 posted on 11/29/2004 5:43:53 PM PST by Paperdoll
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an off the beaten path PING


20 posted on 11/29/2004 6:42:37 PM PST by Siobhan (Where is there justice in the gate...)
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To: TapTheSource

The soviets have never been terribly shy about telegraphing their intents.

Our operations in Afghanistan, as published nearly a year prior in their foreign affairs journal, just one example.

the EU is a Soviet.


26 posted on 11/29/2004 8:06:05 PM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: TapTheSource

bmp


31 posted on 11/29/2004 8:43:18 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: TapTheSource
This is really the New World Order. That has apparently been the plan for a long time.

The difference between Communism, Socialism and various deriviatives of Marxism are purely cosmetic. They are all collectivist. Remember Stalin and Hitler were once allies. Birds of a feather .....

The dreams of Greater Prussia have never died

I assume that the US Government has been aware of it for some time now, This would have been be proper province of the State Department, with input from CIA.

Assuming the above, how come we are just finding out about this? Coincidence? Like the house cleaning at CIA & State?

Think about Carter, Clinton and Kerry's attitudes towards democratic socialism and internationalism. Were we going to be soldout?

Consider the NeoCon Project for the New American Century in the context of the post. Think multipolar. Asia-Pacific, South America.

Why does NATO still exist, and expanded to include some eastern European countries? If its charter is/was mutual protection, protection for whom from whom?

Looks like the Cold War is coming back, although some of the players might realign, in both directions.

"Insignificant" Eastern Europe is get to be real interesting. Remember, they didn't benefit under their old buddies in the USSR. Dust off the nukes and deploy SDI.

Other than as pump attendants, where does this leave the Mideast? US aligned democracies in the Mideast put a big kink in their plan.

Look at this like some geopolitical chess game. We might be luckier to have GW than even we thought. He seems to have assembled a team of Grand Masters.

Its ALWAYS about power and influence. Remember that Star Trek's Federation was very far in the future (and fiction). It was Captain Kirk, not Comrade Kirk.

May you live in interesting times.

36 posted on 11/29/2004 9:33:46 PM PST by Socrates1 (Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.)
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Thank you Tap. I never once believed communism had been completely defeated. It seems I was perhaps correct in my "paranoid" assumptions about the Russian government.
43 posted on 11/29/2004 9:53:36 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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At this time Kohl--who was an ally of Ronald Reagan--was trying to draw Croatia out of the Soviet orbit. It's likely the other partitions originally had the same intent. Germany didn't go pro-Russian/anti-US until Schroeder's coalition began to ascend after 1990, which coupled with Bill Clinton's election produced a shift in the emphasis of NATO policy in the former Yugoslavia, from Croatian independence to Bosnian independence. With Schroeder's ascent former East German influence increased in Germany. Among other things Schroeder demanded that Bill Clinton give back files on East German Stasi infiltration of the West that the US had obtained.
45 posted on 11/29/2004 11:53:17 PM PST by Fedora
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I had always wondered why Germany continued to subsidize France according to EU rules especially the inefficient French agriculture sector. Estimates are that Germany has paid France more money than France demanded as reparations following WWI.

A month ago, I met a businessman whom I met at a Cheney rally told me -"because Germany wants to control Europe."

That didn't make sense at first but now it does - Germany is driving France into a welfare state that will have virtually no economic strength and thus no political power as time goes on. Perhaps Germany is "invading" all of Europe without the use of an army.


47 posted on 11/30/2004 8:23:44 AM PST by matchwood
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