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Time to Deport The Muslims?
Flightinfo.com Non-Aviation Related Chat Message Board ^ | 29 Nov 04 | Birdstrike

Posted on 11/22/2004 7:14:57 AM PST by Birdstrike

The Muslim religion preaches the extreme and death to those who do not believe in it. Jihadists are following their religion. They are the greatest threat to the security of the world and therefore they should be kept out of our country and confined to their own, where they can preach what they want and live in the dark ages if they so choose.

They are not a threat because they don't live in democracies, they are a threat becasue of what they believe. Read their "holy" book and see for yourself.

There are hundreds of mosques right here in the USA and millions of muslims, many of whom call themselves Americans. Yet their silence is deafening. Which one can I trust? I have not heard or seen a single one of them speak out against the disregard for human life or the violence that you say is "not the average Muslim."

What and who is the "average Muslim"? Is it one that doesn't commit the violence himself but condones it, finances it and does nothing to prevent it or won't even raise his voice against it? Who are these "moderate and average" Muslims of which you speak and where do they live? Why don't you tell me that? Or should I just wait for the next act of murder and the repetition of silence from the bretheren of those that commit it?

You see I don't care what they "believe" but I do care what they do in my country. As long as they stay in their own country I don't care how they live. I would like to see us stay out of their countries and stop trying to tell them what to believe, how to live or what to do. However, the minute they come out of their lairs they make themselves fair game.

If they or you want me to believe that the "average Muslim" is a good guy that I should trust and give sanctuary in my house, then let the "average Muslims" come forward and let me hear their voice. Until they do, I am unable to tell the difference between this average guy you're talking about and the one that's just waiting for his chance to stab me or my brother in the back.

I'm not asking them to think like me or to believe what I believe and I really don't care if they read the Quran or the Bible. As long as they are a threat I don't want them in my house. It will take a lot of convincing on their part to get me to accept that they are not my enemy. That's their problem not mine. Until they are able to do it, I would like them to go home. I have neither the time or the desire to "convert" them to anything.


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KEYWORDS: bigotry; islam; jihadists; muslims; religion; security
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To: Birdstrike

Concentration camps??


41 posted on 11/22/2004 7:35:23 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: MineralMan

"...I'd certainly like to see someone pick this up and run with it....but I think its just rhetoric....with no resources behind it..."

That's true; it's just random thoughts while shaving for now. But we need to begin thinking seriously about it and talking it up to our representatives as another option to consider.


42 posted on 11/22/2004 7:35:29 AM PST by Birdstrike
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To: Birdstrike
Ok, so the question isn't - what do we do with this Religion?

The question really is: what do we do with this way of life that is disguised as a religion?

And how do we unbrainwash the masses who've bought into it?
43 posted on 11/22/2004 7:35:40 AM PST by Smarti Pants (~never forget !!!!!!!!!!!!~)
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To: andie74

"Anyone who is here who is not a Christian is a guest."


Even the Jews?


44 posted on 11/22/2004 7:36:04 AM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: Birdstrike

This is not unlike the choice facing Holland. Actually, it is only the actionable radical muslims who need to be deported or arrested, the problem is finding them.

Of course, all Islam is intolerant to western ideas and religions, see how they demand rights in the schools that are not granted to any other group. But a reformation could be expected if a dividing line were drawn between those who believe in Islam and those who believe in Islam and also believe in taking action. We will watch what transpires in Holland and get some idea of what we will face here.


45 posted on 11/22/2004 7:36:20 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: oh8eleven

Narrow views on FR......I'm shocked!!


46 posted on 11/22/2004 7:36:26 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: Birdstrike

I did not write what you responded to. Please be more careful with quotes in replies. I do not want anyone to think I am, in any way, in favor of deporting US citizens.


47 posted on 11/22/2004 7:37:08 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Made in USA

"The day WILL come when all who don't accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior and the Son of God will be outcast. "


Our Jewish friends would probably disagree.


48 posted on 11/22/2004 7:37:18 AM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: Kleon

"...Can you name one country in history where islam has coexisted with citizens of other faiths.

The USA...."


Wrong answer. We have a dagger pointed at our throats while the Muslim community here remains largely silent. That is not peaceful coexistence.


49 posted on 11/22/2004 7:37:53 AM PST by Birdstrike
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To: notigar

No, I would not have. I didn't see them declaring jihad.


50 posted on 11/22/2004 7:37:55 AM PST by andie74 (W stands for Women)
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To: MineralMan

" If you propose to expel me from my native country, you'll be in for a fight. "


I'm on your side - but methinks we're outnumbered. Die with our boots on, I guess.


51 posted on 11/22/2004 7:38:21 AM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: MineralMan

As long as you are not declaring jihad, we have no problem.


52 posted on 11/22/2004 7:38:24 AM PST by andie74 (W stands for Women)
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To: Blzbba

"Even the Jews?"

Hey, now you're getting all rational on us. We can't have that. [grin]


53 posted on 11/22/2004 7:38:29 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Birdstrike

Prophet of Doom - Islam’s Terrorist Dogma, In Muhammad’s Own Words


Islam is a caustic blend of regurgitated paganism and twisted Bible stories.
Muhammad, its lone prophet, conceived his religion solely to satiate his lust for power, sex, and money.
He was a terrorist.

And if you think these conclusions are shocking, wait until you see the evidence at www.prophetofdoom.net.



Radical Islam's 'plan' to take over America - Arab-American author outlines secret 20-year strategy to undermine country

The Islamic States of America?

Misunderstanding the Enemy: the Islamic Threat and the U.S. Media

54 posted on 11/22/2004 7:38:47 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Blzbba

Again, Jews aren't declaring jihad.


55 posted on 11/22/2004 7:39:41 AM PST by andie74 (W stands for Women)
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To: Smarti Pants

Michelle malkin wrote a book about this. Thats where I learned it.


56 posted on 11/22/2004 7:40:19 AM PST by Luigi Vasellini
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To: MineralMan

"...Fortunately, this will not occur, as much as the writer hopes it will...'


Don't be so cocksure. Given another attack similar to the scope of 9-11, all bets are off. Deportation could be a distinct possibility.


57 posted on 11/22/2004 7:40:25 AM PST by Birdstrike
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To: stuartcr
I'm not so sure it's a matter of "who we like" vs. "who we don't like" - the matter is more to the issue of who is at war with the United States - which means ordinary people like you & me.

Those other groups aren't sitting there with guns pointed at the USA saying: you do as we tell you or else - and then we all watch with surprised horror as they pull the trigger anyway.
58 posted on 11/22/2004 7:41:17 AM PST by Smarti Pants (~never forget !!!!!!!!!!!!~)
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To: Birdstrike
There seem to be two kinds of Muslims in this country; those that quietly support the forceable submission of the the world as a whole to the Caliphate, and those who are actively involved in trying to bring that about through violence and terrorism.

I don't believe that all Muslims are willing to take up the jihad in America, for a couple of reasons - one being, they are too comfortable living here, even if they consider us infidels, and they don't want to rock that boat; the second being, their population has not reached the critical mass they require before they start forcibly asserting their beliefs on non-believers.

I believe that if there was any sort of mass movement among American Muslims to reject the jihadis, we would have heard more about it. We've heard anecdotes about a few Muslims who have spoken out, but for the most part, we've heard silence.

I take their silence as silent approval. I don't know if we have room for them here anymore, and if we are going to do something, it should be before they gain the numerical strength to turn America into another Lebanon. Or another Netherlands, for that matter.

59 posted on 11/22/2004 7:41:31 AM PST by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: andie74

"As long as you are not declaring jihad, we have no problem."

Ah, but that's not what you said. You said that anyone who is not a Christian shouldn't be here. I'm not a Christian. I'm not anything religious. What of Jewish citizens? Them, too.

You will not deport me. That's against the law. It's against the Constitution. If you come to try, you'll find out that I'm no patsy, thanks to my service in the USAF and my lifetime of hunting.

You're talking out of some orifice other than your mouth with this, and not thinking before you write.

American Citizens come in all faiths, and all are equal citizens to you, andie74. A proposal to expel those American Citizens who happen to believe differently from you is about the most un-American thing I've read on Free Republic.


60 posted on 11/22/2004 7:42:10 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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