Posted on 11/22/2004 7:14:57 AM PST by Birdstrike
The Muslim religion preaches the extreme and death to those who do not believe in it. Jihadists are following their religion. They are the greatest threat to the security of the world and therefore they should be kept out of our country and confined to their own, where they can preach what they want and live in the dark ages if they so choose.
They are not a threat because they don't live in democracies, they are a threat becasue of what they believe. Read their "holy" book and see for yourself.
There are hundreds of mosques right here in the USA and millions of muslims, many of whom call themselves Americans. Yet their silence is deafening. Which one can I trust? I have not heard or seen a single one of them speak out against the disregard for human life or the violence that you say is "not the average Muslim."
What and who is the "average Muslim"? Is it one that doesn't commit the violence himself but condones it, finances it and does nothing to prevent it or won't even raise his voice against it? Who are these "moderate and average" Muslims of which you speak and where do they live? Why don't you tell me that? Or should I just wait for the next act of murder and the repetition of silence from the bretheren of those that commit it?
You see I don't care what they "believe" but I do care what they do in my country. As long as they stay in their own country I don't care how they live. I would like to see us stay out of their countries and stop trying to tell them what to believe, how to live or what to do. However, the minute they come out of their lairs they make themselves fair game.
If they or you want me to believe that the "average Muslim" is a good guy that I should trust and give sanctuary in my house, then let the "average Muslims" come forward and let me hear their voice. Until they do, I am unable to tell the difference between this average guy you're talking about and the one that's just waiting for his chance to stab me or my brother in the back.
I'm not asking them to think like me or to believe what I believe and I really don't care if they read the Quran or the Bible. As long as they are a threat I don't want them in my house. It will take a lot of convincing on their part to get me to accept that they are not my enemy. That's their problem not mine. Until they are able to do it, I would like them to go home. I have neither the time or the desire to "convert" them to anything.
Concentration camps??
"...I'd certainly like to see someone pick this up and run with it....but I think its just rhetoric....with no resources behind it..."
That's true; it's just random thoughts while shaving for now. But we need to begin thinking seriously about it and talking it up to our representatives as another option to consider.
"Anyone who is here who is not a Christian is a guest."
Even the Jews?
This is not unlike the choice facing Holland. Actually, it is only the actionable radical muslims who need to be deported or arrested, the problem is finding them.
Of course, all Islam is intolerant to western ideas and religions, see how they demand rights in the schools that are not granted to any other group. But a reformation could be expected if a dividing line were drawn between those who believe in Islam and those who believe in Islam and also believe in taking action. We will watch what transpires in Holland and get some idea of what we will face here.
Narrow views on FR......I'm shocked!!
I did not write what you responded to. Please be more careful with quotes in replies. I do not want anyone to think I am, in any way, in favor of deporting US citizens.
"The day WILL come when all who don't accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior and the Son of God will be outcast. "
Our Jewish friends would probably disagree.
"...Can you name one country in history where islam has coexisted with citizens of other faiths.
The USA...."
Wrong answer. We have a dagger pointed at our throats while the Muslim community here remains largely silent. That is not peaceful coexistence.
No, I would not have. I didn't see them declaring jihad.
" If you propose to expel me from my native country, you'll be in for a fight. "
I'm on your side - but methinks we're outnumbered. Die with our boots on, I guess.
As long as you are not declaring jihad, we have no problem.
"Even the Jews?"
Hey, now you're getting all rational on us. We can't have that. [grin]
Radical Islam's 'plan' to take over America - Arab-American author outlines secret 20-year strategy to undermine country
The Islamic States of America?
Misunderstanding the Enemy: the Islamic Threat and the U.S. Media
Again, Jews aren't declaring jihad.
Michelle malkin wrote a book about this. Thats where I learned it.
"...Fortunately, this will not occur, as much as the writer hopes it will...'
Don't be so cocksure. Given another attack similar to the scope of 9-11, all bets are off. Deportation could be a distinct possibility.
I don't believe that all Muslims are willing to take up the jihad in America, for a couple of reasons - one being, they are too comfortable living here, even if they consider us infidels, and they don't want to rock that boat; the second being, their population has not reached the critical mass they require before they start forcibly asserting their beliefs on non-believers.
I believe that if there was any sort of mass movement among American Muslims to reject the jihadis, we would have heard more about it. We've heard anecdotes about a few Muslims who have spoken out, but for the most part, we've heard silence.
I take their silence as silent approval. I don't know if we have room for them here anymore, and if we are going to do something, it should be before they gain the numerical strength to turn America into another Lebanon. Or another Netherlands, for that matter.
"As long as you are not declaring jihad, we have no problem."
Ah, but that's not what you said. You said that anyone who is not a Christian shouldn't be here. I'm not a Christian. I'm not anything religious. What of Jewish citizens? Them, too.
You will not deport me. That's against the law. It's against the Constitution. If you come to try, you'll find out that I'm no patsy, thanks to my service in the USAF and my lifetime of hunting.
You're talking out of some orifice other than your mouth with this, and not thinking before you write.
American Citizens come in all faiths, and all are equal citizens to you, andie74. A proposal to expel those American Citizens who happen to believe differently from you is about the most un-American thing I've read on Free Republic.
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