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WHATEVER HAPPENED TO TREASON
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Posted on 09/24/2004 9:20:33 PM PDT by Fishman1

TREASON - This word imports a betraying, treachery, or breach of allegiance.

The Constitution of the United States, Art. III, defines treason against the United States to consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid or comfort. This offence is punished with death. By the same article of the Constitution, no person shall be convicted of treason, unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.</>

I cannot believe that in the U.S. today we no longer believe in Treason.

John Kerry's picture can hang in a hall in Vietnam, truly a man who gave aid and comfort to the enemy and continues to do so even today.

Baghdad Jim McDermott Rep Wa is truly a traitor who gave aid and comfort to the enemy on the eve of the Iraq war

Patty Murray Senator from Wa who gave a speech to High School Seniors stating that "We just don't understand Osama Bin Laden he built schools and Day care centers in Afghanistan how bad can he be"?

All of these people have provided aid and comfort to the enemy and should be arrested and tried for treason. It disgusts me that we even allow them to hold political office and we should support every effort to defeat them before it is too late!


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: kerry; napalminthemorning; traitor; vietnam
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1 posted on 09/24/2004 9:20:33 PM PDT by Fishman1
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To: Fishman1

I agree with your sentiments. But who are you going to get to accuse Kerry and bring charges against him within our legal process? No one will do it. Since violations to the Constitional Admenment you quote falls under federal offense. This means the Justice Department would most likey be responsible for initiating the process leading toward a trial at a Federal Court level. I am a amature, forgive me.
So how does one figure out politically how to bring the man to justice? John Ashcroft would not touch this one with a ten foot pole.
However, what you failed to bring forth is Kerry based on his actions while serving as active Naval reserve officer violated a few Military Code of Justice (UMCJ) statues which are meantioned elsewhere in this forum and other sites. In essence when he meet in Paris with known North Vietnam officials (commies) without any expressed permission to do so by the DOD, he violated this UMCJ codes.
In those codes, based on his actions, he could be tried in a military court for treason, giving aid the enemy while at war, and therefore could receive a death penalty.
OK. Again who are you going to get to accuse him per whatever rules apply as such, then initiate the proper sequence leading to a military tribune trial?
And big John F. Kerry knows that he will never pay for his crimes of treason.
Hopefully he will lose by a wide margin and then slink retire and party with his wife and ultra-liberal snob friends. Kerry will get his due when it is time.

Don't bother thinking somehow the Swifty crew is going to bring him to justice, that is just a pipe dream. And they probably are the only group (Admirals, Captains, lower rank officers) that could have enough credibility to start such an action against him. At least they have raised the public concience as who John Kerry really is. Let us hope that will have been enough to keep him from the highest office in this land.


2 posted on 09/24/2004 9:45:12 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (.)
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To: Fishman1

The hate-filled anti-American left has dropped off the radar screen of shame. There is nothing you can say to them, nothing you can call them, nothing you can catch them at, which will make a difference to them.

Try to have a rational discussion, and they instantly begin to screech like fishwives, venting irratonal hate like foul flatus.

Like the savages who behead hostages, liberals have gone beyond the horizon from human decency to a dark and alien place. They are not a part of us anymore, no longer a "loyal opposition."


3 posted on 09/24/2004 9:55:13 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (I, the jury)
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To: Marine_Uncle
True Enough...but as a career Navy Man with 22 years under my belt I will find it hard to support a Commander in chief who was a traitor.

Makes me sick!

4 posted on 09/24/2004 9:58:22 PM PDT by Fishman1 (Freedom is for those who fight for it!)
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To: Fishman1
[sarcasm]Treason is Halliburton.[/sarcasm] LOL!!!

Sorry to make light of your obvious truth, but this is how these socialist/fascist/communist idiots think. In today's society Dick Cheney would face charges of Treason long before John Kerry.

If Kerry were every charged all the leftist would have to do is throw one of their petulant little temper tantrums about free speech and censorship and Republicans would back down. Books, Movies, TV shows et al would be made vilifying John Ashcroft and the Justice Dept. just like they have done with McCarthy. They would accuse Ashcroft of being a cross dresser like they did with J. Edgar Hoover. It would never end.
5 posted on 09/24/2004 9:59:12 PM PDT by Arnold Zephel
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To: hinckley buzzard
venting irratonal hate like foul flatus

Well said!

6 posted on 09/24/2004 10:04:11 PM PDT by Fishman1 (Freedom is for those who fight for it!)
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To: Fishman1

Sir,
Believe me, I would be sick to. Thank you for serving your country for so many years.


7 posted on 09/24/2004 11:25:23 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Like the savages who behead hostages, liberals have gone beyond the horizon from human decency to a dark and alien place.

Well said also!

We are in a war with with these savage liberals ! We need to fight back, with everything we have!


8 posted on 09/24/2004 11:48:28 PM PDT by Mier ("The Federal Government didn't create the States; the States created Federal Government" R.W.R.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

I would do it again in a heart beat, the service was the best thing that that ever happened to me, but suffering through eight years of Clinton was tough and I pray my career does not have to end with another moron in the White House.


9 posted on 09/25/2004 11:19:24 AM PDT by Fishman1 (Freedom is for those who fight for it!)
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To: Fishman1; tpaine; jmstein7; Travis McGee; headsonpikes; Cincinatus' Wife; endthematrix; ...
My treason awards go to:
  1. Michael Moore, Dan Rather, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Teddy Kennedy, Tommy Daschle, Howard Dean, and Maureen Dowd for encouraging our enemies.
  2. Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, Joyce Brady, Laurence Tribe, and Barbara Boxer for their tireless battle against the second amendment.
  3. Former Justice Roy Moore, "Rev." Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and Gary Bauer for advocating the complete demise of the first amendment requirement separating of religion and state and the abolition of the supreme court's powers to rule on the constitutionality of law; their tireless effort to break down our strongest defense of religious freedom and break the separation of powers warrants a severe tarring and feathering.
  4. Thirteen Democratic members of the House of Representatives including CA-D rep Barbara Lee, TX-D rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson - for inviting the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe to unconstitutionally monitor our 2004 presidential election.
  5. US Representatives Mike Honda and Zoe Lofgren, D-CA and governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico for their tireless support of illegal immigration.
Left, right, and center: we have traitors everywhere. What a decade! It's never been better for the enemies of our freedom.
10 posted on 09/25/2004 7:44:34 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk
Nice list!

I agree with almost all including Falwell and Robertson. Justice Moore I am more ambivalent about, I think the separation of Church and State rules are being skewed, religion has been a bedrock of U.S. society, Look up George Washington's first Thanksgiving day proclamation.

But otherwise I agree (Boy alt of wackos from CA and Mass eh?)

11 posted on 09/25/2004 8:02:39 PM PDT by Fishman1 (Freedom is for those who fight for it!)
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To: Fishman1

Nothing, its alive and well, we just don't prosecute it any more.


12 posted on 09/25/2004 8:03:55 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Ask not what you can do for your country, ask the country what it will do for you!)
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To: Fishman1
I would agree that religion is the bedrock of American society, but I think George Washington would have joined me in criticizing those men above for all the things they have said against the first amendment:
Government being, among other purposes, instituted to protect the consciences of men from oppression, it is certainly the duty of Rulers, not only to abstain from it themselves, but according to their stations, to prevent it in others. --George Washington, letter to the Religious Society called the Quakers, September 28, 1789.

Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society. --George Washington, letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792; from George Seldes, ed., The Great Quotations, Secaucus, New Jersey: Citadel Press, 1983, p. 726.

In the Enlightened Age and in this Land of equal Liberty it is our boast, that a man's religious tenets will not forfeit the protection of the Laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining and holding the highest Offices that are known in the United States. --George Washington, letter to the members of the New Church in Baltimore, January 27, 1793. Quoted in Richard B. Morris, Seven Who Shaped Our Destiny: The Founding Fathers as Revolutionaries, Harper & Row, 1973, p. 269.
One doesn't need to be "liberal" to be a traitor to this country's founding principles. Too many on the right have convinced themselves that if we could only establish Christianity by law in this country, all of our problems would go away. They're ignoring the thousand years of civil religious warfare that plagued Europe before the American Revolution, a fact not unnoticed by our founding fathers.

Those false and greedy Christians stay on my list of traitors.

13 posted on 09/25/2004 8:23:26 PM PDT by risk
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To: Fishman1

YW...."and I pray my career does not have to end with another moron in the White House"........
And I pray sir that you will not have to endure the terrible thought of having to serve under a true traitor to the United States of America.
hang in there.


14 posted on 09/25/2004 9:27:40 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (.)
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To: Fishman1
Could you add jane fonda to the list of traitors?

5.56mm

15 posted on 09/25/2004 9:40:59 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Fishman1

Got Rope?


16 posted on 09/25/2004 10:11:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Fishman1

I could not agree more. I am so angry that Kerry could even be considered for President by anyone. I am appalled at what is happening to this country. If we don't do something, we will lose it.


17 posted on 09/25/2004 10:16:19 PM PDT by ladyinred ("John Kerry reporting for spitball and typewriter duty.")
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To: Marine_Uncle

Tell me, why do you think Kerry wasn't arrested and tried at the time he consorted with the enemy, confessed to war crimes, etc? What the heck was wrong then that he wasn't?


18 posted on 09/25/2004 10:19:08 PM PDT by ladyinred ("John Kerry reporting for spitball and typewriter duty.")
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To: Arnold Zephel

You are so right, but how did we get here, and what can we do to reverse this?


19 posted on 09/25/2004 10:20:38 PM PDT by ladyinred ("John Kerry reporting for spitball and typewriter duty.")
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To: ladyinred
I think is is a Sad Barometer of Todays Society that we are where we are.

It is bad enough we are considering a devious treasonous individual for our Commander in Chief.

Serving is not a ticket to the Presidency (If it was my Father would have been president, he was in every major battle in the European Theater during WWII from N.Africa, to Normandy to the Battle of the Bulge)

Not only are we allowing Traitors into the top tiers of Government 9/11 is already forgotten by the left. The left only uses 9/11 as a propaganda tool. It makes me sick!

How do we change it? We have to be as reactive as the left is and SPEAK UP! VOTE! Have rational sensible arguments...The left has no spine it is easy to overcome them, but you must be involved!

20 posted on 09/25/2004 10:55:30 PM PDT by Fishman1 (Freedom is for those who fight for it!)
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