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Exclusive: Leftwing Dissension Sets In as Finger Pointing Begins(Kerry Campaign Slams Moveon.org)
www.crushkerry.com ^ | 9/14/04 | www.crushkerry.com

Posted on 09/14/2004 9:30:25 AM PDT by crushkerry

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To: crushkerry

CBS is a 527.


61 posted on 09/14/2004 10:16:09 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: OXENinFLA; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Happy2BMe; Boazo; Grampa Dave; Lady Jag; ...


Hmmm, a Moveon.org and Dan Rather connection...

63 posted on 09/14/2004 1:42:12 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: crushkerry

“They serve a purpose,” she stated

"Perhaps your purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others."


64 posted on 09/14/2004 2:44:15 PM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: crushkerry; ConservativeMan55; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; JulieRNR21; Cindy; Smartass; ...

BUMP/PING to 'CABAL' NEWS thread.

"Who WERE these 'Anonymous Sources', anyway...???"

...as 'some' of us 'might' have already suspected...

(Please FReepmail if you want on, or off, this list. I certainly have no desire to increase anyone’s stress-level. Thanks!!!)

65 posted on 09/14/2004 3:30:10 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM* - The Liberal solution to all of society's problems. (*...Other Peoples' Money))
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To: crushkerry; Ernest_at_the_Beach; MeekOneGOP; Travis McGee

It is time to recycle a great oped from last December.

Re: The Tipping Point(.."The Left Will Lose It's War On America..")

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1031955/posts

The Tipping Point(.."The Left Will Lose It's War On America..")
Mens News Daily ^ | Dec 2, 2003 | Bruce Walker


Posted on 12/01/2003 5:31 PM PST by faludeh_shirazi



The Tipping Point
December 02, 2003 MND Bruce Walker


Free Iran at ActivistChat.com
Wars have a tipping point when one side realizes that it will, inevitably, lose. In 1918, the unbeaten German Army in France and Belgian saw that the flow of fresh troops from America made ultimate defeat certain. In 1990, when the Berlin Wall was torn down, the ultimate collapse of the Soviet Empire was inevitable.

Leftism has reached the same tipping point: the Left will lose its war on America and ordered liberty. There is no specific event - no Battle of Midway or Siege of Yorktown - which precisely defines the coming collapse of Leftism, but a cluster of trends all point in the same direction.

Leftists pined for another Great Depression in America, which, they hoped, would bring back the good old days of soup lines and socialist rabble rousers. But the economy is growing at the fastest rate in two decades. This insures the reelection of President Bush, but it causes Leftists other problems as well.

Sanctimonious whining about the federal deficit, which never once concerned Leftists when the welfare state was being created, look increasingly silly as the engine of economic recovery produces much greater federal tax revenues. In the 2004 campaign, honest economic analysts will be able to project surpluses during the second term of President Bush.

Leftists invented the politics of personal destruction. They have used this tactic not only against politicians but against anyone who stands in their way, but it no longer works - and everyone sees that it no longer works.

Rush Limbaugh, hit with a double whammy in a single week, is back on the air and very popular. The risible concern expressed about Mel Gibson’s production of a film which simply reflects the honest beliefs of Christians about the death of Jesus failed to concern serious people and will insure a bigger audience for The Passion.

Katherine Harris is now Congresswoman Harris and a member of the leadership of the majority party in Congress. Newt Gingrich is a frequent and respected commentator on conservative news programs. Senator Carnahan, by contrast, is now citizen Carnahan. Governor Davis is now citizen Davis.

Most important, the shrill hatred of President Bush, whose personal popularity has been higher than any president in the history of modern polling, shows the Lilliputian size of the Left. Conservatives and other normal people look at Leftist whining about President Bush’s surprise Thanksgiving visit to our troops in combat zones with a combination of bafflement and contempt.

Leftists attackers now find themselves the attacked. The LA Times-Democrat and the New York Times-Democrat double teamed Governor Schwarzenegger several days before the recall election. Their sneaky slanders did not hurt him, but the LA Times-Democrat lost subscribers it could ill afford to lose and the New York Times-Democrat added its lies about a pro-Nazi Schwarzenegger to its ghastly incompetence in the Jason Blair fiasco.

CBS was forced to scratch The Reagans because the network grossly underestimated the intensity and organization of a very broad, connected and informed conservative majority in America. Books like Bias show Leftism is bankrupt and dishonest.

Academia is facing increasing scrutiny and ridicule as its absurd, surreal hatred of all things good about America becomes more and more commonly understood. The salient fact in this area: students are much more conservative than their faculty and much less willing to be cowed into submission.

The political landscape has changed as well. The Republican Party is now, unquestionably, the majority party in America. Men who once were listened to in the Democrat Party - Ed Koch, Zell Miller, and Andrew Cuomo - now throw up their hands in frustration at a political party that weighs the political consequences of fighting terrorism.

The picture around the world looks even bleaker for Leftists. When President Bush is reelected, the evolution of Iraq into a tolerant nation of ordered liberty is assured. The mullahs of Iran will lose power and be replaced, inevitably, by secular and pro-American leaders. The changes in these two nations will not just transform the Middle East, but Islam itself.

Castro will die soon, and Cuba will live again. Germany will soon have a political party sympathetic, rather than unsympathetic, to our goals. Revelations that the ruling Social Democrat Party was infested with Stasi spies and the sleazy way in which Schroeder won his last election will mean that the next Chancellor of Germany will want to mend relations with America quickly.

Everything points in the same direction: the outcome of the war between Leftism and ordered liberty is certain. Conservatives and other normal people will win this war. Marxists, Fascists, Socialists, Nazis, Islamic totalitarians and other Leftists will lose. As that fact becomes clearer, the orderly retreat of the Left will become a rout.


66 posted on 09/14/2004 3:36:19 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop lying to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: Seadog Bytes

thanks for the ping!!


67 posted on 09/14/2004 3:43:19 PM PDT by bitt ("I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore." (CongressmanBillybob))
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To: crushkerry; MeekOneGOP; devolve; PhilDragoo; Smartass; potlatch; Prime Choice; Registered
"Our source assures us the Kerry campaign had nothing to do with the memo itself. But they strongly suggested that the pro-Kerry 527 group MoveOn.org is directly responsible for handing the document over to CBS."

________________

Interpretation: George Soros and his clones over at Moveon.org were so antsy to screw Bush that they didn't hire a good enough forgery expert.

Hullo Barbarian Streisand. Hullo Whoop(ed) A$$ Goldberg . .


68 posted on 09/14/2004 4:02:01 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (49 days until November 2nd)
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To: Grampa Dave


From the article:

Our source also expressed deep frustration at what she called the “hijacking of our campaign and our party by the amateurs at MoveOn.org.”

“Those guys don’t know campaigns. They’re driven by their emotions, not by the dispassionate resolve it takes to win a campaign. And so they’re prone to do stupid things like this, which hurts everybody,” she said.

When asked if empowering a shadowy 527 group like MoveOn.org with a grant from George Soros and other billionaire partisans was a smart move, our source acknowledged that by-and-large the group has been helpful to the campaign.

“They serve a purpose,” she stated. “But they need to know when to draw the line.”



The Soros Threat

The Capitalist Threat
(1997 article by Soros)

SOROS SNACKING ON SIDE DISHES
(Soros the Adulterer)

FR Search for Keyword Soros

FR Search for Keyword George Soros


69 posted on 09/14/2004 4:40:37 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Interactive collaboration, as we see on the web by bloggers, FReepers and the like, produces the most accurate, most reliable and often the most responsive news reporting because every word posted is subject to public scrutiny, unlike the MSM which completely controls the edit, reader feedback and correction processes.

Witness the Old Grey Lady's resistance to her newly hired ombudsman, CBS's lack of accountability compounded by its institutional propensity to stonewall, or the way in which the MSM networks have repeatedly tinkered with either news copy, opinion polls or test results to achieve the outcomes favorable to their political agendas and candidates.

70 posted on 09/14/2004 5:00:58 PM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

Excellent comparison.

All of us have been on the hard side of the learning curve when we have posted something that is wrong or a theory based on something besides reality.

As you noted, the MSM controls the controls so there is no valid feedback. That leads to arrogance and a total miss reading of what is out in the real world.


71 posted on 09/14/2004 5:05:20 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop lying to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

When this is over, the rats who survive the elections and return to Congress will beg us to destroy the 527s.


72 posted on 09/14/2004 5:09:42 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop lying to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: MamaLucci
"........and the Kerry campaign keeps on hiring [lilly-White male only] Clinton operatives."

There. All fixed for you.

The AWB Has Expired - Gun Owners Have Won Again For All Americans!

73 posted on 09/14/2004 5:14:57 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Grampa Dave
I bet you're right. Just keep McCain and Feingold out of it.

74 posted on 09/14/2004 5:18:24 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: crushkerry
"“I don’t know if it was them. I don’t know anything about it, first hand. But I can tell you everyone here [at Kerry HQ] thinks they gave it to CBS. And lots of people here think they created the damn thing,” our source told us."

Nope, that's incorrect. At least two CBS staff have been cited by various news organizations saying that the documents came from the DNC via a 3rd source.

Besides, MoveOn has plenty of Soros' money. They don't *need* to shop around documents to get a network to run a story for free; no, they can make an ad and simply run it.

MoveOn also doesn't have the kind of cache and clout that would get CBS to volunteer for the credibility gallows.

So for those stated reasons and more, I'd say that your source inside the Kerry Campaign is snowing you. I certainly don't buy it.

Think about it; get rid of 527's and then the official political Party hacks once again get to control all of that money. There is some tasty power to be had when you control where and when you buy ads. The parties themselves would love to have that power back, and MoveOn would hate to give it up. So the *motive* to blame MoveOn exists in spades, but for MoveOn to risk a hit piece getting out of their control by running it through a 3rd party like CBS is suspect, at best.

Think man!

The AWB Has Expired - Gun Owners Have Won Again For All Americans!

75 posted on 09/14/2004 5:24:40 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: crushkerry
We should pressure CBS to reveal their source. Pretend like we think there is a direct link from the Kerry campaign. CBS will defend itself by releasing that they came from MoveOn (which is much more likely than directly from KerryHQ).

Then we move to our real attack: tie MoveOn.org to the Kerry campaign. Blame the Kerry campaign for the memos even though MoveOn sent them in (because Kerry could have handed them off to MoveOn). Tie everything else negative from MoveOn to the Kerry campaign (it's not as if Kerry has tried to disassociate himself from MoveOn, so this would be a fair attack).

76 posted on 09/14/2004 5:30:12 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Grampa Dave

Bump for a turning point.


78 posted on 09/14/2004 6:44:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: crushkerry
Looks like you absolutely right:

Top Dem Rips Kerry Campaign

And the report is from .....CBSnews.com ^

79 posted on 09/14/2004 7:14:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: crushkerry

'When asked if empowering a shadowy 527 group like MoveOn.org with a grant from George Soros and other billionaire partisans was a smart move, our source acknowledged that by-and-large the group has been helpful to the campaign.

“They serve a purpose,” she stated. “But they need to know when to draw the line.”'


Isn't this just what was said about Hitler and his youthful supporters?


80 posted on 09/14/2004 7:38:26 PM PDT by Socratic (Kerry/Edwards - Forging a New Reality)
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