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To: Love U

As a 46-year-old male, who was a Nixon supporter in my youth, I must agree with Keillor. I think that Pat Buchanan's new book "Where the Right Went Wrong" makes many of the same points.

The problem with being led by the fanatical fringe is that it pushes the pendulum beyond what is prudent, and makes for a more radical swing the other direction. If people do not think that the pendulum theory of politics is valid, look at what the liberals did to their party in the 60's.

In embracing and promoting the lunatic fringe of any movement, the danger grows that it's not based on solid principles.

Living in the times that we do, it's easy to get blinded to the long-term effects of our actions. What President Bush is advertising is that he is going to do away with terrorism. Does anyone believe that?

What are the chances of one person killing hundreds or thousands of people in the future if America continues towards more and more conservative values? The chances are exactly the same as if America becomes more and more liberal. To believe that this, or any President of The United States of America can make us safe is folly. The fewer pissed off people we have around the world, the lesser the chances of widespread terrorism. To make this a "Crusade" is to do exactly what the lunatic fringe of Islam, or any other group wants.

Believe it or not, it really does make sense to keep the gap between the richest countries of the world and the poorest countries to a minimum. There will always be differences, and we will have more, but if we are to hold to the "Christian Values" that the majority believe in, in America, we can't ignore the effects of our own actions, or in-action.

Neseattle


34 posted on 09/27/2004 6:19:59 AM PDT by Neseattle
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To: mhking; Constitution Day; Old Sarge; BlueLancer; Poohbah; hellinahandcart; Love U; Neseattle

Red carpets for two, s'il vous plait.


35 posted on 09/27/2004 6:36:07 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Neseattle
Believe it or not, it really does make sense to keep the gap between the richest countries of the world and the poorest countries to a minimum. There will always be differences, and we will have more, but if we are to hold to the "Christian Values" that the majority believe in, in America, we can't ignore the effects of our own actions, or in-action.

Oh do shut up. Even if redistribution were desireable (and it's not), if the United Nations cannot manage an Oil for Food programme for one country humanely, what in the name of GOD makes you think that anyone can do the kind of global redistribution of which you speak?

Secondly, most of the Al Qaeda leadership are sons of privilege, not poverty.

The real answer is for 3rd world countries to adopt policies which will enhance free markets and economic growth. There are even signs that the North Koreans get this. Which makes them marginally more intelligent than the Rockefeller Republican or the liberal Democrat.

Ivan

40 posted on 09/27/2004 7:00:14 AM PDT by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: Neseattle; Darksheare; meowmeow; Constitution Day; 4mycountry; Poohbah; Grampa Dave; ...
What President Bush is advertising is that he is going to do away with terrorism. Does anyone believe that?

What president is advertising? Who said anything about ridding Terrorism, Fight it, but not rid of it...

For this I must laugh!

Click the pic!

BWAAAAHAHAHAHA

Zot!
Did you feel that?


42 posted on 09/27/2004 7:19:52 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (I am not late for Zots, I have stealth Zot capability.....)
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To: Neseattle; Zavien Doombringer; 4mycountry; Constitution Day; VRWCmember; Poohbah; dighton; ...
Thanks for telling us we are doomed (DOOMED!)...

Now go play on the freeway....

DOOMED!

43 posted on 09/27/2004 7:23:43 AM PDT by mhking ("Honey, WHERE...IS...MY....SUPER SUIT?" --Samuel L. Jackson, "The Incredibles")
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To: Neseattle

Pat Buchanan and Garrison Keillor must be considered great minds there in la la land. Go drink some more kool aid.


44 posted on 09/27/2004 7:25:36 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Dan Rather, "I lied, but I lied about the truth".)
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To: Neseattle

Welcome to FR.


45 posted on 09/27/2004 7:30:26 AM PDT by Darksheare (Liberalism is political domestic abuse.)
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To: Neseattle; Zavien Doombringer; 4mycountry; TheBigB; VRWCmember; jriemer; mhking; glock rocks; ...
Uh, did you FORGET about the fact that it was Osama bin Laden that DECLARED WAR on US??

Your buddy Bill Clintoon - 'the Centrist' - ignored his attacks for the most part.

Bush is fighting the terrorists and they are being KILLED in Iraq and Afghanistan.

HOPEFULLY, we won't have to fight them HERE like Israel does on a daily basis .....


48 posted on 09/27/2004 7:45:33 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Neseattle; Darksheare; OSHA; Old Sarge

Give me proof that if we stop fighting or cave to the demands of the terrorist how this will stop terrorist attacks around there world or prevent them here on our own soil?

Arab countries for years when attacked by the fanatics of Islam have caved given into demands for ransom or made changes to their societies to "keep the peace". They still get attacked their people still get kidnapped. Appeasement does not work.

What people are still failing to understand, is that this is a battle of Idealogy. It is the supportors of fanatical islam vs the western world. They will not rest until they are either eliminated from this planet or they have achieved their goal of converting the world to Islam and eliminating the infidel. This has been their goal for hmm lets see over 1000 years. This is the battle in our time. So you can see where I am not ready to dismiss 1000 years of history in belief that appeasement will bring us peace. If you can prove me otherwis, I would be intrested to see it.


50 posted on 09/27/2004 7:53:30 AM PDT by Americanwolf ("Be vwey vwey quite! I am hunting DU Twolls! ---Elwer Fuwd Free Republic member and cartoon icon)
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To: Neseattle
Believe it or not, it really does make sense to keep the gap between the richest countries of the world and the poorest countries to a minimum.

Many many of these "poorest" countries have serious problems that need to be fixed before throwing money at them will do any good.

Anyone that sticks their head in the sand refusing to acknowledge that the worlg has grown smaller in the last fifty years (Pat Buchannon) is the lunatic fringe.

53 posted on 09/27/2004 8:01:53 AM PDT by bad company (What's the font kenneth?)
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To: Neseattle

Yeah, right. It's the rest of the world, and half the U.S., that is being led by the "lunatic fringe" on the left. You think it's "prudent" for us not to piss off that element, even though they will only be mollified by capitulation. Please go away.

Oh, and I am soooooooooooooooooooo damned impressed by your support of Nixon when you were a minor and unable to vote. Way to work in your conservative bona fides there! You are now beyond reproach. No one's even going to THINK of asking you "Who did you vote for in 1976?"

Certainly not me. :-P


54 posted on 09/27/2004 8:01:59 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Neseattle

Who, in your opinion, should be President.
John Kerry or Dubya?


57 posted on 09/27/2004 8:11:36 AM PDT by Darksheare (Liberalism is political domestic abuse.)
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To: Neseattle
Believe it or not, it really does make sense to keep the gap between the richest countries of the world and the poorest countries to a minimum.
The best way to accomplish this, indeed the only way to accomplish this, is for those "poorer countries" to display the same respect for the rights of the individual, particularly including property rights, that we have here. At least, that most of us have here, to be sure we have our share of wackos.

As long as this does not happen, productive wealth will not be safe in those nations. The only way to minimize this gap will be wealth transfer from the richer nations to the governments of the poorer nations. I said "governments" on purpose...the pockets of those in power is where it will end up.

This is certain to cause economic stagnation and further political corruption. No thanks.

-Eric

62 posted on 09/27/2004 8:26:28 AM PDT by E Rocc (Anti-Islamic Bigotry: The Know-Nothingism of the 21st Century.)
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To: Neseattle

Welcome to FR

Here's your sign doofus

68 posted on 09/27/2004 8:50:25 AM PDT by scott0347 (Commander of the 0347th Lancer Brigade, Operator of the Immaculate Steamroller)
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To: Neseattle

NESTLE?
Is that you?


75 posted on 09/27/2004 9:02:41 AM PDT by Darksheare (Liberalism is political domestic abuse.)
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To: Neseattle
Yes, rolling over and showing your belly to the enemy has always been an effective way to handle threats.

What is it with the left, do you have an extra "coward" gene or something?

84 posted on 09/27/2004 12:23:25 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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